Man this is so much easier to do on a computer. I hate having to mostly use my phone. I really wish this site had an app. Anyway, thanks for the civil debate. I do plan on winning(LOL) but I just wanted to say I have reordered the gauntlet and added feats.
Yes, people got hit with them all the time, but the quicker people could dodge them reasonably well (not always of course). It did depend on the range, but I've dodged them (with the same or similar type of recurve bow shown in your gif) from roughly the same distance and I was wearing armor. I'm NOT saying it's not a fairly impressive feat, I'm just saying it's not an especially unusual one for a fairly quick person. Yes, we had some people (depending on if their "character class" allowed them to without them taking a "wound"), though I never played one of those and didn't monitor their activities enough to give an opinion on how common that is and at what ranges.
So, here is where I think our difference of opinion comes in to play, Fighters are fairly quick people, which is part of what I'm trying to establish. My quickness and reflexes. I think that with what you said above, we can both agree that most people are not fairly quick. More over, I think you and I can also agree that the average person would not be able to dodge, much less catch one of those arrows at will from close range. My goal was never to establish myself as some meta in hiding. But I have limited recorded feats and I think that it is useful enough to demonstrate that my reflexes are very sharp and above average. Establishing that, they would serve me well and I could support the claim that I could avoid attacks from people that do not move as fast as they arrow was traveling.
As for you being kicked in the face and knee to the body, I've seen and been in (unfortunately) way too many fights (in my far gone youth) and I know the difference between sparring and full contact. I'm not trying to sharp shoot you...seriously, but you're the one who asked for honest opinions so that's what I'm giving. That knee was reasonably sturdy but that kick to the face was sparring contact.
I've encountered this a few times in this debate. You mention in your reply that the choreography was awful. It was. However, because of the shows context, you are supending disbelieve and saying they were going all out. Even though you can look at the attacks and see how awfully slow they were. By that I mean, even if it was real life, punches and kicks at those speeds, you and I both know would not be extremely severe. I believe my opening line was "I'm a character in the Netflix Universe" or something like that. They are sparring video. You're correct. But lets suspend disbelieve and take them at face value, just as you have with everything else in the show.
In real life, I've been teaching martial arts for years. I have years of real life private security training and experience and ALWAYS carry a gun on me. None of these guys could beat me in a real life situation. This is all for the fun of the debate. (And my vanity. lol. I admit that too. but mostly fun.)
My point about you being tall and lanky and not knowing if you have a good close in game (which is difficult, but not insurmountable...like I said, I don't know this, or not, about you I can only go by your gifs) or not. A shorter person, like Colleen (even though the choreography was HORRID in every scene she was in, nothing we can do about that) has much more natural advantage in a close in fight. The need less space to get fuller extension on hand strikes, knee strikes, and even kicks(in most cases). Taller, lankier people (like us), can learn ways to minimize our disadvantage in this area (me? I love me some elbows), and for all I know you very well MIGHT have, I just have no way of knowing.
The sad thing is, I've done Judo. I have rank in that, but nothing recorded. If it wasn't a Holiday, I'd see if I could get someone to come in and roll a little with me. However, my counter argument to this I think still works. He's ground skills were not special. He didn't show any ability to do much of any damage in the extremely advantageous position of mount. And while he would try to absorb damage like you said, this works to my advantage as I have show (In the new gifs) I have very good striking power, Especially in my legs. He did not demonstrate the same foot work and speed that I have. Thus, I should be able to deal greater damage from further away and have the advantage in speed to allow me to avoid the grapple more times than not.
Again, no...he might NOT get you on the ground but his goal, like it was in the show, would be to use his greater durability, mass, and strength to absorb damage, close with you, and try to get you against the cage OR on the ground (that silly business of her running along the side of the cage is just that...silly...all he'd have had to do was pull his weight back or let go of her).
Who knows? You MAY be able to beat him, there's very little certainty in combat, but based on the few vids we've seen of you it just SEEMS that he has the majority of advantages in this fight.
If I haven't convinced you, no problem. It was fun to do the debate anyway. Check the updated gifs. No a lot of new ones, but some good stuff. Also, I'll ask you again, try not to look at this as a real world vs fiction. Like the vine rules state, it would be a neutral universe unless otherwise stated. I'm in there universe where I believe my feats would translate extremely differently.
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