Humans with Cheetah speed and Fly eyes Vs Bear

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Poll Humans with Cheetah speed and Fly eyes Vs Bear (23 votes)

Enhanced Human 61%
Grizzly Bear 39%

The Bear is an Enraged Grizzly.

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The human has a short spear

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And a pirate hat

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#1  Edited By OmniSage

BONUS

The human fight´s two male lions with the same weapon.

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What is even the point of a short spear? Just use a sword at that point

Anyways, human wins since cheetahs are actually more agile than leopards who easily overpower and eat them. They actually dance around leopards.

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@whathappened: We don't know if Cheetahs are more agile than leopards, they "dance" around leopards because of their travel speed.

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@whathappened: This is a grizzly bear, what are you talking about, a Leopard isn't beating a grizzly bear

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The only use the speed has here is for running away, without any extra strength, you won't be doing much to that monster. So either run or pretend to be dead and end this in a stalemate.

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@whathappened: This is what you said

Anyways, human wins since cheetahs are actually more agile than leopards who easily overpower and eat them. They actually dance around leopards.

The only thing that can be comprehended here is you are talking about the topic, which is an enhanced human vs a grizzly bear.

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@whathappened: This is what you said

Anyways, human wins since cheetahs are actually more agile than leopards who easily overpower and eat them. They actually dance around leopards.

The only thing that can be comprehended here is you are talking about the topic, which is an enhanced human vs a grizzly bear.

Eh, no. I was talking about the cat's speed and how it uses it against another fast opponent. The same speed that the human possesses. Other people got it, you're just a little slow! But you'll get there champ!

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Human wins this, Grizzly bears are fast and strong, but an enhanced human with a good strategy and a weapon would win any day. I'll be honest though I have no idea how the human having "fly eyes" would affect the fight. But yeah, the human gets some speed on him and pierces the bear in the neck, and waits for it to bleed out. Just like bow hunting, but without the bow.

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@whathappened: One person responded to your comment wtf are you talking about?

Anyways, human wins since cheetahs are actually more agile than leopards who easily overpower and eat them

Leopards are never mentioned by OP in the Thread, can you not read? Why bring them up in the first place when the human is facing a bear?

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@pmcinelly784: Grizzly bears are tanks, I doubt one spear is doing much, especially not with Cheetah speed, as bears are fast themselves. It's not like you are moving like a blur, he will still easily track you.

And God please don't hunt Grizzly bears with a bow, you are asking yourself to get killed.

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does the speed apply to every aspect of movement or just running speed? cause with 27 m/s overall speed you could almost statue the bear.

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#13  Edited By RhoyneDelta

Grizzly should win, people are often underestimating bears because they are low-level enemies in games and such, but they are really dangerous. A grizzly is practically a god compared to a human, if the human makes a false decision, is indecisive, cocky, slips or anything else he is done for. A human without augmented strength will have huge difficulty stabbing through a bears thick fur, thick, flexible skin and dense layers of muscle and fat to do any damage at all, even stabbing puny humans is often more difficult than you would guess from action films.

You can't keep up your speed while actually commiting to a attack with your strength and weight behind it, let alone if you have to change directions or also react to the bear. Cheetahs even often lose prey, because of terrain or direction changes and that is with the assumption that the cheetah would dominate if it actually reached, with the opposite being the case here. Humans have bad instincts and reflexes, but we can still react to things many, many times faster than ourselves, similar but better goes for bears.

It's not like you are gonna zip around it and chip at it, bears are very relative in speed, if this was some CaV people would argue that the minor speed advantage would be irrelevant against a bear. Groups of coordinated hunters with dogs would not dare try to attack a grizzly up-front in the old days and even after fairly powerful rifles were the norm it was still considered hugely risky.

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Too many factors for me to really consider, mainly on how this "Cheetah speed" works. Is it just running speed or is it all of your bodily coordination? Do you also retain the Cheetah's low stamina or your own?

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@infinitemass: What they're saying is, Cheetahs dance around Leopards who are much stronger than they are. Thus, a human with cheetah speed shoulder be able to do the same to Grizzly Bears.

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#16  Edited By Antebellum

Cheetah has running speed, and they need time to reach their potential. Is it really right to assume their Paw Attacks or Reaction speed are nearly as fast?

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You don't have to dance around the bear. You have to charge and finish it. Which you can do very easily. Bears are apex predators and truly much larger than you expect if you haven't been next to one. This doesn't stop you from just running straight at it and sticking the spear in the head.

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#18  Edited By Wabubub

@rhoynedelta: you have no idea what you're talking about. Hunters with spears would attack bears all the time in the olden days. No dogs needed. Before guns even. You should also look into the tigers eating bears thing that happens. It was recorded as the bear having been chipped away.

You don't need the cheetah's run speed. You need the reaction speed which is enough when combined with human physiology.

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#19  Edited By Ccbm2208

The Human with these enhancements and a weapon to boot should win.

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#20  Edited By HydratedFubuki6

A person with great cardio can win this.

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Enhanced Human should slap

He views the Grizzly 4x Slower, Can Accelerate to 100km/h in Just 3 seconds, to boot it off He has a Weapon and via KE he can exceed 40,000 Joules

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Human should win with enhancement although speed is overrated

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Our lateral movement speed allows humans to dodge extremely fast animals that would otherwise outrun us in seconds. With Cheetah speed, our lateral movement would be significantly faster if the cheetah speed scaled with all of our movement speed. We would be able to easily dodge any bear attacks, then run around to it's back to poke it.

We wouldn't be able to just slaughter it but think about dark souls, our characters aren't nearly as fast or powerful but out lateral dodges allow us to get great positioning on otherwise impossible enemies.

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@wabubub: This isn't just any bear, it's a grizzly bear. Humans avoided them as much as possible and still do now. Without a large caliber rifle you aren't doing jack to a bear.

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I was gonna say the bear wins but the gear changes everything, that pirate hat will probably make the bear lose automatically

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#26  Edited By OmniSage

@gangorca: @thorwins1875:Cheetah speed is for running speed, his body has the effects of cheetah speed such as low stamina. The Fly eyes(I meant fly vision) are because fly's see five times faster than Humans, I used a short spear because with a sword he could win with strike,stab,pierce but with SS he can only pierce.

Basically speed and reaction time versus Strength and Durability.

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@omnisage: ah okay. well fly eyes won't really make a difference unless our brain will also be upgraded for perceiving sensory input faster. and even then you'd need to upgrade muscle reaction time too.

the human can still win here but it'll be much harder. you would need to leverage your increased velocity to create enough energy for the spear to 1 shot the bear. maybe run away at start of battle and then bullrush it with everything you have.

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@omnisage: ah okay. well fly eyes won't really make a difference unless our brain will also be upgraded for perceiving sensory input faster. and even then you'd need to upgrade muscle reaction time too.

the human can still win here but it'll be much harder. you would need to leverage your increased velocity to create enough energy for the spear to 1 shot the bear. maybe run away at start of battle and then bullrush it with everything you have.

Well i would upgrade our brain but not our muscles, i don't want to make him see the bear in slow motion and just dodge all the time but to see it and get out of the way just barely getting caught because your muscles were to slow to react(Well i'll upgrade them a little bit).

Also Cheetah speed may or may not be for Stab and Run.

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@thorwins1875: bro what?? You think a cheetah can statue a bear?? This is not friggin fictiom lmao, no cheetah is beating a bear, hell make it 5 cheetahs and i will betmy money on the grizzly, and a human with cheetah speed (no durability or strengh enhancement) is dying from a single blow.

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Bear mauls.

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@uchihaghost: i'll humor you with a reply. try re-reading my post again. if the human could move explosively at 27 m/s in any direction, at any time, the bear would have no chance at all. especially at close range. you would be moving faster than the bear could peripherally perceive.

does the speed apply to every aspect of movement or just running speed? cause with 27 m/s overall speed you could almost statue the bear. < my post that you misconstrued.

Here's 45 meters per second.

to give you an example - this scene

first we calculate the distances

5 meters + 2.52 meters = 7.52 meters
5 meters + 2.52 meters = 7.52 meters

then we calculate the time transpired

time transpired - 0 s 167 ms
time transpired - 0 s 167 ms

finally we calculate the scene

velocity = distance/time

v=d/t (7.52 m / 0.167 s) 45.02 m/s or Mach 0.13