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#1 Posted by mr-luxcipher (7593 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Posted by PoisononousVenom (115 posts) - - Show Bio

Human Torch wins in a brutalmegacurbstomp

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#3 Posted by IAmVerySmart1 (176 posts) - - Show Bio

Human Torch in terms of normal comic book logic.

Captain Cold if using not-so-normal powerscaling comic book logic: "Captain Cold can take on Flash so he can be a major challenge for Human Torch as well!"

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#4 Posted by ProteusXManRxis (4446 posts) - - Show Bio

Human Torch.

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#5 Posted by Amendment50 (15429 posts) - - Show Bio

You don't need weird powerscaling for Cold to be a contender. If he is on top of his game I probably side with him.

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#6 Posted by kid_high (517 posts) - - Show Bio

Which torch ?

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#7 Posted by King_Majestros (1929 posts) - - Show Bio

Human Torch incinerates Captain Cold easily, handily, lolstomp-style.

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#8 Posted by Lord_Spectrum (4244 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Posted by Dragonspine (245 posts) - - Show Bio

Human Torch wins, especially if we're talking about the Original Human Torch whose nova level bursts are the equivalent of being hit by nuclear warheads. One of those raining down on Cold should do the trick, but Torch could saturate Cold with burst after burst repeatedly. If the intense heat and concussive overpressure bursts don't kill him, the radiation would.

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#10 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (24287 posts) - - Show Bio

How hot does Johnny's flames start off with? Because Snart's Cold Gun could stalemate with the blast of Heatwave's Flamethrower.

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And Heatwave's flames are much hotter than heat created by Flash at Mach 20 speeds.

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Final Crisis: Rogue Revenge Vol 1 2

Honestly though, can't see how Human Torch can penetrate a Cold Field but I'll wait for @thetruebarryallen's opinion on this first.

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

Torch stomps

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#12 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (24287 posts) - - Show Bio

@sy8008 Mate, mind dropping an argument in?

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#13 Posted by Amendment50 (15429 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm 90% sure people are just picking their answers based on what the person before then said.

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#14 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (24287 posts) - - Show Bio

@amendment50: I'm interested in your input though. Who do you think wins in general, based on your original post?

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#15 Posted by WollfMyth209 (16533 posts) - - Show Bio

Johnny's gonna have to chill out. :D

He's gonna be on thin ice. :D

It was ice knowing him. :D

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#16 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18335 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Cold

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#17 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17701 posts) - - Show Bio

Supernova. GG

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#18 Posted by Sy8000 (35242 posts) - - Show Bio

@sy8008 Mate, mind dropping an argument in?

Johnny would win. He has temperature feats above Heat Wave and can just ignite Snart within the field without overpowering it.

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#19 Posted by cdiddyman911 (5531 posts) - - Show Bio

A classic Human Torch would wipe the floor with Captain Cold.

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#20 Posted by doctor223 (141 posts) - - Show Bio
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Johnny

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#21 Posted by Mooty_Pass (9884 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Human Torch.

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#22 Posted by itchman (184 posts) - - Show Bio

Johnny's gonna have to chill out. :D

He's gonna be on thin ice. :D

It was ice knowing him. :D

I don't agree but i do have to say that those puns are really cool.

But i mean give him more of a chance and please don't give him the cold shoulder.

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#23 Posted by jashro44 (52491 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure if people are considering this or if it was intended by the OP but current Johnny is losing his powers and is weaker as a result.

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#24 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (24287 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: I've read the first two issues of M2I1 but not the third issue yet. Is it out? If so, did he get a bigger nerf in the latest issue?

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#25 Posted by Warlockmage (9223 posts) - - Show Bio

if its current Johnny then Snart probably wins

if its pre depowering Johnny then he should win

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#26 Posted by jashro44 (52491 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: I've read the first two issues of M2I1 but not the third issue yet. Is it out? If so, did he get a bigger nerf in the latest issue?

No. I only read the first two issues. I recall him having trouble activating his power when him and Ben went to monster island. He also told Ben his flame was weaker.

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#27 Posted by WollfMyth209 (16533 posts) - - Show Bio
@itchman said:
@wollfmyth209 said:

Johnny's gonna have to chill out. :D

He's gonna be on thin ice. :D

It was ice knowing him. :D

I don't agree but i do have to say that those puns are really cool.

But i mean give him more of a chance and please don't give him the cold shoulder.

As it snow happens, I often judge these fights in cold blood so I usually don't give the other combatants a chance. I suppose that, at frost glance, there's no(w) easy way to say it, but I am a chilled individual.

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#28 Posted by FireStarLord73194 (5091 posts) - - Show Bio

@doctor223: so Johnny can punch a hole in reality with pure heat? I'm not sure of the context of this scan

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#29 Posted by Nefarious (35649 posts) - - Show Bio

HT. Captain's coldfield will be useless to him here.

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#31 Posted by physicalculturi (73 posts) - - Show Bio

@doctor223:

That was a human torch amped from absorbing 1000s of alternate universe counterparts of himself to a point he could hardly contain it. Even Franklin says in the scan it was nearly killing sue.

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#32 Posted by RampageTheFirst (7578 posts) - - Show Bio

Johnny's gonna have to chill out. :D

He's gonna be on thin ice. :D

It was ice knowing him. :D

Goddammit!

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#33 Posted by Life_Without_Progress (24287 posts) - - Show Bio

@itchman said:
@wollfmyth209 said:

Johnny's gonna have to chill out. :D

He's gonna be on thin ice. :D

It was ice knowing him. :D

I don't agree but i do have to say that those puns are really cool.

But i mean give him more of a chance and please don't give him the cold shoulder.

... Kids, Captain Cold doesn't do puns.

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The Flash Vol 2 182

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#34 Posted by dami24434 (4371 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

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#35 Posted by Toratorn (7217 posts) - - Show Bio

Torch is both powerful and versatile enough to win.

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#36 Posted by Helloman (29886 posts) - - Show Bio

The Human Torch wins.