Hulk,Thor and Nova vs Superman,Black Adam and Orion

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post crisis for dc

standard for marvel(savage hulk and regular thor)

in character but willing to kill

no bfr

win by death or ko

Fight!

edit: After debating and looking over some peoples post and somewhat overcoming my stubbornness I realized that blue marvel wouldn’t be the best teammate for this battle so I have decided to switch him out with Richard rider nova

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Team 2. Blue Marvel is a weak link for his team

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Team 2. Blue Marvel is a weak link for his team

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Like they said Thor can pull his team against two of them. hulk can keep one occupied but BM is a weak Link

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Team 2.

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Team 2

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DC wins. Generally, they have the more powerful heroes and villains.

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#9 Alphamon  Online

I don’t get how BM is the weak link here

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@alphamon said:

I don’t get how BM is the weak link here

He's the weakest of all of them, so it makes him the weak link here.

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@tonystark6999: how has he lacked strength feats when his knocked sentry into orbit and needed to sucked punch BM to win and nearly fell unconscious by the end of the battle or win he beat anti man who was beating down the entire avengers roaster, how dose that translate to him being a weak link?

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Draw

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@alphamon said:

@tonystark6999: how has he lacked strength feats when his knocked sentry into orbit and needed to sucked punch BM to win and nearly fell unconscious by the end of the battle or win he beat anti man who was beating down the entire avengers roaster, how dose that translate to him being a weak link?

Sentry's power levels vary.

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@tonystark6999: with different mental states I know and bob looked quite fine to me and even then it doesn’t make it any less of a good feat

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@tonystark6999: with different mental states I know and bob looked quite fine to me and even then it doesn’t make it any less of a good feat

He was at one of his weakest points when he fought BM.

Team 2 would win because BM is going down first and Thor and Hulk isn't beating them 2v3.

Thor and Hulk would take them individually 1 on 1 in close fights, however they lose here thanks to 2v3..

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Team 2

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Team 2

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Team 2, mid-diff.

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@byondeon: how was sentry at his weakest point? Anti matter only messes with his powers it doesn’t weaken him like kryaptinte dose to Superman

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Basically 2 vs 3 in favor of dc... replace blue marvell with a better teammate

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@alphamon: he lacks the feats to hang here... DC Adam (weakest member of team dc) would kill him outright leaving his team at a disadvantage.

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@doctordamn: how, his been able to take on the avengers which had Ironman, areas,Wonder man, she hulk(I think) and sentry and he knocked sentry into space and making sentry have to sucker punch from orbit and he beat anti man who was beating the same avengers roster when got serious then there’s the fact the maker of the same character has stated his on the same lvl as this guys, so I fail to see how he is as weak as you make him out to be

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@alphamon: forgot to mention that his powers directly affect sentry negatively and that sentry jobs alot... everyone on team DC is just better than him

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Team Marvel, Blue Marvel can solo.

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@doctordamn: anti matter effects his powers it doesn’t weaken him like kryptaint and I guess sentry jobs to everyone then?

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@alphamon: no shit that means it affects him negatively does it not??? Did I say sentry jobs to everyone?

I mean damn dude several people have already told you this. BM lacks the feats to hang. It is what it is

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@doctordamn: no but I guess sentry just jobs to marvel then right?

Ok so if multiple people said hulk would get his ass kicked by lockjaw I should believe them right, even though I have given them fights to say other wise I should just mindlessly listen to the majority right?

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DC team guaranteed.

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@alphamon: yeah if there was a version of lockjaw with superior feats to the hulk then absolutely.

No one is saying that bluemarvel is a weak link just because... he doesn't have the feats to hang with anyone here. What don't you understand about that???

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#33 Alphamon  Online

@doctordamn: I don’t think you understood what I meant but whatever

Actually multiple people have said he is a weak link and you even stated he should be replaced with someone better. How dose he not have feats to hang with them when even guys like Namor have compared his strength to guys like hulk and Thor

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And even the creator has stated his in the same league as this guys

  • Regarding Blue Marvel's power level he also was quoted as saying "As long as I'm writing the character, he won't be so strong that he makes other characters look foolish. He is just in the same league as the Hulk, Thor, Superman, Sentry, Orion, J'onn J'onzz, etc. He's NOT above them."

he has proven he is so agian I don’t see how is so bad he needs to be replaced with some else

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@alphamon: Spiderman said that the sentry stalemated galactus. So by your logic sentry=big g right??? The guy who writes immortal hulk said that he would beat thanos yet no one goes around claiming that as true.

I mean really what can he do here? He could try and drain clark but would get put down well before he makes any progress. He's definitely not putting down Orion. And the other Adam is powered by magic and will definitely go for the kill... so tell me, what does he do here?

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@doctordamn: so I guess wog means nothing now because of a few writers said some stupid stuff?

Oh idk maybe brawl, matter maulplte, spam anti matter in the other teams face since matter and antimatter don’t mix while and how would he get put down before that happen if his able to hang with guys like sentry and other powerhouses

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@alphamon: If the feats aren't there then yeah its worthless.

He's not lasting long in a brawl at all so no... spamming anti matter is his best bet but eventually he would get put down. And once again, his powers negatively affect sentry (something that no one here would have a problem with.) Not to mention, everyone here would beat said sentry (meaning the one that fought bm) except for savage hulk whom he would calm. So stop using him as an example.

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DC team

Its basically 1 vs 3 since BM shouldn't be here and Hulk can't fly, so no one has to even engage him.

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@doctordamn: Yet he dose

Yet he was able to fight off wonder man, Ares, Ironman, Ms.Marvel and she hulk(I think she was there I can’t remember) and was stated by Namor to hit as hard as hulk and Thor who has fought them on multiple accessions and looking at BM vs sentry BM didn’t even use anti matter against sentry he just brawled with him, so I think marvel can brawl with any of these guys just fine and I’m pretty sure anti matter only messes with his powers it doesn’t outright weaken him unless his in the negative zone

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Hulk, Thor and Blue Marvel.

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Team DC. Blue Marvel is the weakest link by far.

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Orion is the most powerful guy here and from the looks of things BM seems to be the weak link so team 2.

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@alphamon: everyone here can fight off that team...

And once again, just because one character says something, that doesn't mean it's true. And he's not brawling with anyone here... if he tries that then he's going down even faster...

Adam simply doesn't have the feats to compete

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@doctordamn: ok that doesn’t make any less impressive

So a character the has brawled with Thor and hulk multiple times and comparing a another characters striking strength is somehow invalided because reasons?

But he does

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Marvel Team

Way more smarts and versatility.

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everyone on dc team can solo

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@threadsplit: go troll elsewhere sir

@alphamon: it kinda does; it means BM isn't special as you think he is...

And Namor would get stumped by a competently written thor or hulk so unless BM has more feats that I don't know about, he's a not doing much

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@alphamon: it kinda does; it means BM isn't special as you think he is...

And Namor would get stumped by a competently written thor or hulk so unless BM has more feats that I don't know about, he's a not doing much

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#48 Alphamon  Online

@doctordamn: when did I imply or say he was special lol? The whole point of my argument is to so you he can hang with the other powerhouses

Namor has litterly been able to fight on pair with hulk and Thor constantly over the years, the only way could see either hulk or Thor “stumping” him is if the writer down plays Namor like hell or Thor and hulk are amped And unless you can so me a bunch of anti feats of BM getting constantly mollywhoped by a bunch of other powerhouses then I’m not going to concede.

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@alphamon: The thing is, not only are Blue Marvel's feats nowhere near as impressive as Team DC's (in terms of striking, durability, speed, damage output), but Team DC has taken on and beaten far greater opponents than BM has. Yes, including King Hyperion and that version of Sentry. So in comparison to Thor and Hulk and their accomplishments, he stands out as the weaklink among the three. If he's supposed to be the equals of Thor and Hulk, he hasn't been given enough concrete showings to prove it. Unless I see a fight where Blue Marvel directly matches Hulk and Thor, or if he just gets enough feats in general, all of his supposed power remains in theory.

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According to character statements, Gladiator is the most powerful mortal in the universe and more powerful than the surfer, and countless characters have hit characters "the hardest they've ever been hit", despite simply not being that powerful. WoG is nice, but only when supported by actual feats, which it just isn't.