Hulkbuster (MCU) vs General Zod (Man of Steel)

Zod rips Hulkbuster apart. Hulkbuster is far too slow and lacks a defense against heat-vision.

HB stomped Hulk, whose striking feats>>>>>>>MOS

@frozen: Zod showed no aptitude for using Heat Vision in a combat situation. His speed is purely travel speed and not combat speed either, so thats not really going to play a factor. He took his fight with Clark to a brawl straight away, something the Hulkbuster is designed specifically against, yet scaled to something stronger than Zod. Zod doesn't have the durability or the striking power to put it down.

@phantom16: HB didn't stomp Hulk, he won because of a sucker punch after the mind control broke and Hulk calmed down... before that Hulk was literally tearing him apart and he had to repair himself several times.

Zod wins. Zod and Clark should no signs they were hurt in their fight. The Hulkbuster had to constantly get new parts, eventually it would run out.

@atheistknowledge: Only repaired himself once. The second failed attempt looked as if he was gonna get a whole new suit.

When has Zod's heat vision ever been clocked over 3000°C?

@spector_rand: Yea the suit was failing at the end, either way my point is the HB didn't stomp Hulk in fact Hulk seemed more powerful throughout most of the fight.

@atheistknowledge: Yeah totally agreed there, Hulkbuster just seemed to be trying to contain Hulk, it never seemed possible for him to defeat him.

zod easily ftw.

zod is stronger than the hulk. period.

zod kicks a heavier double tanker with much greater force than a running hulk kicks a van.

zod crawls up faster than hulk or abomination.

hulk caused no shockwaves blitzing into hulkbuster. zod causes obvious shockwaves and punches faster than the speed of sound.

zod heat vision melts and pushes back.

@academic: you are lowballing as usual. Veronica survived re entry without damage. Completely destroyed a big skyscrapper and took no damage while doing so. Hulk kicking that van slowly is pure bs. It is caused by marvels inconsistency. Hulk stopped a 3000 ton flying whale thing with one arm and hb matched him.

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2:

Veronica is built not to contain a human occupant as it hovers. You have zero proof exactly where it hovers and at what height

Hulk buster was impaled by a streel lamp = poor dureabilty

Hulkbuster pushed hulk down a empty not even remotely complete buiding. No skyscraper evident in that town. The buidling was very open and obviously not every part of the buidling fell on either of them.

Not inconsitency either

Fiora threw sup with much greater force and distance than hulk threw thor

Hulkbuster...

Still Zod in my opinion.

Pretty sure Zod wins through heat vision. Judging by everything else in Man of Steel, though, maybe not strength or even durability.

Then breaks Tony in half literally.

Something that was impaled by a street post, doesn't seem like it would do well against heat vision. As to the people saying he didn't use heat vision offensively, doesn't mean he can't...the writers just chose him not to. so he has heat vision and he isn't the hulk, so after the first time he sees veronica dispatch a new set of limbs what stops him from destroying that too? he was moving pretty quick during that battle as well. "travelspeed" or not he moves quickly and has long range attacks at his disposal. hulk buster moved like a lumbering sasquatch.

zod

Hulkbuster snaps his neck with 2 fingers.

@thetruthiii:

man of steel book is the OFFICIAL CANON story based on the motion picture screenplay.

pg 293

"dozens of broken lengths of rebat flew at superman like javelins, hurled at lightening speed" zod threw it.

hulkbuster couldn't even handle a STREET LAMP that impaled him (and it wasn't even destroyed).

"zods arms turned into a BLUR of motion ven as a berserker rage caused his eyes to ignite like a twin SUPERNOVAE"

" ZOD rushed forward to kick his foe while he was down, but the crazed general came too close the disintegrating parking garage. The ENTIRE STRUCTURE slid down on top of him,burying him beneath a mountain of concrete and crushed metal.

" sure enough, zod burst from the rubble"

the double tanker that zod kicked with far greater force than a running hulk kicking a van was given its weight.

pg 294

" a FORTY-TON propane truck was zod's next weapon of choice.

fyi, superman took that kick prior and no showed it! sup immediately got up and kept fighting!

sup/zod punches caused TREMORS.

PG 297

" A TWO -HUNDRED FOOT TALL construction crane was uprooted by the tremors.

the book is canon.

sorry bruh, zod EASILY wrecks hulkbuster.

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2:

man of steel book is the OFFICIAL CANON COMPLETE story of mos.

ZOD rushed forward to kick his foe while he was down, but the crazed general came too close the disintegrating parking garage. The ENTIRE STRUCTURE slid down on top of him ,burying him beneath a mountain of concrete and crushed metal.pg 294

" sure enough, zod burst from the rubble" pg 294

sup/zod punches caused TREMORS.

PG 297

" A TWO -HUNDRED FOOT TALL construction crane was uprooted by the tremors.

the book is canon

Veronica/HB was specifically designed to contain MCU Hulk. This suit wouldn't fair too good against any powerhouse besides Hulk, I don't see him beating Zod with it. Zod is a lot faster than Hulk, trained better than Hulk & smarter than Hulk. MCU Hulk does have better striking feats but thats all he really has. Zods speed, flight & intellect make up for his inferior striking power. I don't know where it was stated how heat the heat vision is but he didn't use it offensively & barely knew how to use it. But there's nothing to suggest he can melt through HB when the only thing we've seen it melt was a steel beam IIRC. But I doubt most of HB weapons would do any damage on Zod. I think Zod can take the HB armor but not as easily as ppl here are saying. He'll need to make a Zod-Buster suit.

HB

It was never stated, but considering that it sliced a skyscraper in half like better and cut through a steel beam in seconds suggests that it is above 1510 degrees, the melting point of steel.

He consciously used it on the family and everything in that scene suggests that he learned how to control it. All that is important is that he does know how to turn it on and off and can use it in this fight.

Zod 9.5/10

Yes i have seen both movies on cinema.

Zod

@gxrevolution96: Even if we say he has complete control there's still nothing to suggest it'll melt the suit HB. IIRC Tony stated at the end of Iron Man that his suit was made of a titanium alloy (stronger than steel) & something else. Titanium melts at 3034 F & there isn't anything to suggest Zod's HV reaches that temperature. But as I stated he wins but not due to HV.

@gxrevolution96: Considering he was able to cut through it instantly, I'd say it was much, much hotter than 1500 degrees. It was probably hotter than the Iron Man 3 Extremis soldiers. That being said, I do think the Hulkbuster could overpower the somewhat subdued strength and durability of the MoS Kryptonians, but unless Tony has some kind of counter for heat vision, I don't see how it could withstand that. Zod most likely takes this.

I do not see why he wouldn't be able to to melt considering that Killian and his goons were ripping through all Staark's suits like butter.

Zod in good fight.

Why tag that comment? There was nothing written there to suggest the suit can be melted via HV. Also all that proves is that Killian & the extremis soldiers heat is hotter than kryptonian HV. I don't remember them saying how it they were, did they ever say how hot they got? The only thing we see the HV again is steel not titanium. Tony said his suit was made of Titanium & another metal. Until someone brings footage or proof to suggest otherwise we can't just assume Zod can melt the suit. All there are on here made up assumptions of how kryptonian HV is.

But again like I said, Zod still wins everytime HB doesn't have the durability to maintain a prolonged fight & again it wasn't really designed to fight anyone but Hulk.

@uugieboogie: Gold titanium alloy. Gold is extremely easy to melt, and titanium has a higher melting point than steel, but not too much higher. IIRC, titanium melts at around 3000 F, and steel at around 2700. Killian's temps were at 3000 Celcius, which is twice as hot as needed to melt titanium. Zod's HV sliced apart a skyscraper instantly, which means his beams were quite a bit hotter than the melting point. At 2700 F, it would still take time to cut through a single steel beam, let alone the entire building.

@scotticusrex: Gold melts at 1,948 F & Titanium melts at 3,034 F. The extremis soldiers & Killian were reaching temperatures up to 5,500 F. & ppl always say he cut through an entire skyscraper. He cut through some support beams & the floor right at Clark's feet (in the new Batman V Supermab trailer you see exactly where he's cutting from the outside from Bruce's POV) then at the end of the fight it didn't even make it through the wall of the building they were in . Still, there's nothing to suggest Zod's HV is hitting 5,500 F. It could do some damage overtime but not the way you ppl are making it seem, it's not "cutting through like butter". Tbh the fact that Iron Mna suit pretty much ranked lightning which can hit 50,000 F there should be no reason why Killian melted his suit but it's fiction.

Anyway HV isn't the deciding factor of this fight & there's no proof that puts it in leagues with Killian heat. Until it's shown melting through something other beams or they say it's all speculation .

Zod, and utterly I might add

Zod.

His heat vision is being underestimated by a few here.

He instantly cut through concrete and steel. A 3000 to 4000 CELSIUS thermal lance would have taken an hour to do what Zod did to the floor alone.

heat vision cant melt steel armor

I'm kidding Zod stmops

Zod stomps

How the heck did this get to 7 pages

Zod. And yes his heat vision should instantly cut through Hulkbuster armor.

From demasx on the Superman reddit:

According to "The Might and the Power of a Punch" special feature available on iTunes, Vudu, or disc, when Superman destroys Batman's gun turrets, the narrator says, "The temperature of Superman's scorching heat vision can reach 10 thousand degrees Fahrenheit or fifty-five hundred degrees Celsius." Accompanied by "10,000° Fahrenheit" and "5,500° Celsius" appearing on screen.

They don't do any calculation to back that up so take it with a grain of salt... but don't be surprised if people start citing that as the figure based on the special feature. "

....So if this is true then DCEU Superman and other Kryptonian's heat vision can be a little hotter than the surface of the sun.

Yeah Hulkbuster is in serious trouble.

Jesus Christ this thread is so stupid. This match-up is stupid and so unfair. Zod either puts his fist through the suit with his hits, or he just melts the suit with his heat vision with ease.

Put 10+ Hulkbuster and Zod would still stomp.

The downgrade DCEU characters get from MCU defenders is astonishing. Of course that is to be expected when the main kryptonians in the DCEU stomps MCU powerhouses.

Zod stomps, and it's weird how this has come to seven pages.

Heatvision

Gg get mad MCU fanboys

Zod

Hulk Buster was not stronger than Hulk. It was bigger, and had better leverage. The durability level was also far inferior to Hulk's and was literally getting torn to pieces. They knew that when the designed HulkBuster and made it modular so that when it got ripped apart, which they knew would happen, they could put it back together on the fly.

So HB starts off strong against Hulk and as the fight wears on performs worse and worse. That fight could not have gone on much longer before HB just fell apart. When Tony was trying to fly Hulk out of the city, Hulk damaged the chest / torso piece. Tony called for the replacement and that's what Hulk smacks out of the sky. This is when Tony does the most damage he can think of by shoving Hulk through the top of a building and letting it fall on him.

All this is to say that although HB started strong, in the end it was only made out of metal and couldn't hold up to the stresses over the long haul. Zod and others in that movie were blowing through steel like tissue paper. HB would have a similar initial advantage, and then any damage that accumulated would debilitate it and before very long Zod will have torn it to pieces.

Zod dies due to a lack of sufficient striking feats, and inconsistent HV that is unlikely to bust the suit.

Zod still stomps.

Zod.

@fortified_hooligan: all of what you said, and zod would notice the satellite way before hulk did and just destroy that as soon as he notices it was repairing hulk buster

Zod

That's absolutely true, I hadn't thought about that!

Hulk is not a tactician. Zod would not let Veronica hover around in the background sending helpful powerups to HB.