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#201 Posted by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

@sodamyat said:

wait, shouldnt thor be one shotting those fodder little robots if guys like cap are beating them?

What is this supposed to mean? Thor flipped the robot over, the robot turns and gets back up. In another scene, you see Thor one-shotting dozens of them with Steve's shield...

Gawd I'm gonna jump out of this thread before I lose my mind at the type of thinking/logic being practiced here!

jump out if you want to..but we all know you wont.

my comment means directly what it says.

he should be able to one shot and not struggle with these weak robots since cap can defeat them.

and yet we see him struggle with them for a few seconds as if he cant over power them before he finally flips the robot. right before he gets pushed by quicksilver.

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#202 Posted by Bladewolf2 (144 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod is better than the entire MCU villain gallery though, powerful, violent, a real threat to the hero and with good reasons outside of ''im gonna collect mcguffins to get more powah'', is pretty sad that after almost 13 movies the best MCU bad guy is on some Netflix show

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#203 Posted by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod is better than the entire MCU villain gallery though, powerful, violent, a real threat to the hero and with good reasons outside of ''im gonna collect mcguffins to get more powah'', is pretty sad that after almost 13 movies the best MCU bad guy is on some Netflix show

what are mcguffins?

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#204 Posted by Bladewolf2 (144 posts) - - Show Bio

A MacGuffin is a plot device in the form of some goal, desired object, or other motivator that the protagonist pursues, often with little or no narrative explanation. The specific nature of a MacGuffin is typically unimportant to the overall plot. The most common type of MacGuffin is an object, place, or person.

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#205 Posted by ElderSkaar (5319 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's wait until the movie comes out? For now Zod stomps. The only feat Hulkbuster has is catching a car.

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#206 Posted by arqe (694 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont know how people can defend HB armor there with just 1 gif. It is clearly that shockwave was put there because they wanted to serve fans , and also very very bad calculated effect. shockwave just went through car and human there , glass shattered from the wave but human didnt even moved an inch and you can see that shockwave reached camera so it passed human instantly after it hits the car. And another guy running towards that direction , into the shockwave and nothing happened to him.

And you are still saying that is a proper and real shockwave not just an effect to serve fans ? Cmon , stop it please. That shockwave had no effect other than the shattered car glass. Not real.

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#207 Edited by RandomSid82 (9864 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow. Went to work and this thread was at 1 page, maybe 2. Come home and it's at 5 and the movie isn't even out yet. All I can say after reading all the comments is, hilarious. People are really reaching when they know nothing about the Hulkbuster other than a small clip that ends before the fight ends. I'll reserve judgement until I see the movie. Doing otherwise is just asinine.

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#208 Edited by RudeBomberBoy01 (4525 posts) - - Show Bio

@sodamyat:

jump out if you want to..but we all know you wont.

You're right, sometimes I stay to see just how silly things become.

my comment means directly what it says.

he should be able to one shot and not struggle with these weak robots since cap can defeat them.

and yet we see him struggle with them for a few seconds as if he cant over power them before he finally flips the robot.

The robot threw a punch, Thor blocks it, then flips him over. How did you come to the conclusion that he was struggling? For the love of god, the movie is not out yet, stop jumping the gun.

right before he gets pushed by quicksilver.

What is wrong with Thor getting pushed by Quicksilver? Didn't Superman get tackled and downed by a fisherman in the boat scene?

@randomsid:

Wow. Went to work and this thread was at 1 page, maybe 2. Come home and it's at 5 and the movie isn't even out yet. All I can say after reading all the comments is, hilarious. People are really reaching when they know nothing about the Hulkbuster other than a small clip that ends before the fight ends. I'll reserve judgement until I see the movie. Doing otherwise is just asinine.

Well, NotHalJordan and his multiple alt accounts are out in full force again.

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#209 Edited by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod barely fought with his powers, he doesn't have SO much more footage than HB I don't get why people are complaining.

I didn't see anyone complain when Netflix Daredevil was put up against Movie Daredevil despite the Netflix one having so much more screen time.

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#210 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL, the sad creatures have switched to attack the quality of the movies.. they must be really desperate if they wanna go over this part...

MOS 72% rotten tomatoe(55% critiques)

Avengers 91%(92 critiques)

Zod is a great villain indeed

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overacting levels are over 9000!!!

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#211 Posted by MasterKungFu (20773 posts) - - Show Bio

we would have to wait

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#212 Posted by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: rotten tomatoes has Finding Nemo, King Kong & Frankenstein rated higher than Avengers. Critics is like 50 people's opinion when over 1 million people watched MOS & Avengers so just think about that.

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#213 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@kfabz-23: So? It's pretty much the same on every reviewing site. The number of people that watched the movies is not important i mean all Michael Bay movies pull in a huge audience, MOS sucked and at best got mixed reviews while Avengers was pretty much universally praised. Nostalgia Critics review of it is still my favorite

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#214 Edited by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: avengers was universally praised when it came, recently people are noticing Avengers is overrated.

And anybody who is anybody knows that the people who dislike Man of Steel gives some terrible reasons to why they dislike it. "why didn't Superman take the fight away from the civilians?" Etc.

It just all comes down to your personal opinion, I could care less what critics say.

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#215 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@kfabz-23: It's not so much that the Avengers is overrated it's that other great or even greater MCU movies have come out. Like Captain America 2, is my favorite MCU movie even more then the Avengers. And even if we all agree that the Avengers is a bit overrated it's still a good movie, unlike MOS.

That's not a terrible reason really... when you look at how careless he was in his fight and how much Zack focused on creating destruction porn rather then a competent movie it's not an invalid criticism. And trust me that's not the only problem or the biggest one, unfortunately hanging around battle forums like these you will not get to hear smart opinions. I suggest you actually look up competent reviews on youtube and blog posts and see what they say because they go into lengthy details about it.

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#216 Posted by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: it was his first day doing it and he wasn't even Superman until he killed Zod. Have you ever watched "A Thesis of Man Of Steel". And your missing the point entirely I don't care about reviews, I care about the fact that it's a movie that I enjoyed and always will.

Now l just watched the Hulk vs Hulkbuster clip, Ironman literally punched Hulk towards the civilians but because it's an MCU film no on would say anything.

When Thor was fighting Malekith on Earth he didn't think about civilians.

When Thor fought Destroyer, the same thing.

The destruction in Avengers is not far off MOS, but MOS had too much destruction but hey one of those films are from the MCU.

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#217 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@kfabz-23: Well that's great for you but i didn't like it and i have friends who are real hardcore fans of Superman that hated it... so to each their own, there is no point there.

And i am not condemning that but at the same time they are not literally bringing down buildings on other people, Superman in his fight has killed a lot more people then just Zod... that's actually the point.

You see you are just chucking it to "it's because it's MCU that it doesn't get bashed" which is untrue... and again you are just sticking to 1 problem of the movie when MOS had countless others much more important than that.

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#218 Posted by Postacrat (720 posts) - - Show Bio

The hulk buster is impressive against hulk, it has a repair hub available for quick fixes to. It also appears to be interchangeable as well. This is a pretty good match up to me, I definitely can see a formidable challenge in Tony against Zod using the HB armor. In the end though I truly believe Zod has the strength, speed, durability, combined with his above average level of flight to win this. Zod can even take stark into space and make it an interplanetary battle, not sure of the Hulk Buster suit could handle that. Now this is my opinion and it is solely based off of the trailer of HB Ironman Vs Hulk.

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#219 Posted by ElderSkaar (5319 posts) - - Show Bio

So? he the god of thunder, he should be able to react to those types of attacks, funny enough, Quicksilver can PUSH HIM without trouble, MCU Slowdison is slower than a bullet.

True. Even his comic book version can barely react to bullets, let alone dodge them.

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#220 Posted by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: what civilian did Superman kill in his fight with Zod? I want you to show. I have hardcore Superman fan friends who love it, it's just one of those things you either love or you hate.

MCU get away with too many things I could list. If WB/DC changed a character as much as Marvel changed Scarlet Witch, the response would be so much worse. If that first Ant-Man trailer was released by Fox studios the response would be again so much worse and you know it.

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#221 Posted by Jestersmiles (9826 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL, the sad creatures have switched to attack the quality of the movies.. they must be really desperate if they wanna go over this part...

MOS 72% rotten tomatoe(55% critiques)

Avengers 91%(92 critiques)

Zod is a great villain indeed

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overacting levels are over 9000!!!

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#222 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@kfabz-23: LOL, like they where actually gonna show it, but considering how much buildings where falling on top of everyones heads and considering there where people inside those same buildings i am gonna say a whole bunch. At this point denying this is literally lying to yourself.

List them then. And enough with the conspiracy theories... what are MCU audience more forgiving then DC? Or are DC fanboys idiots? What is the conclusion you are trying to reach? That some higher power out there dictates that people get more outraged at DC just cause?

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#223 Edited by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: Clark gets thrown inside roughly 7 buildings and we only see inside 2 of them which were completely empty. When the World Engine came out people were either caught by the destruction or left in time. Destruction of the World Engine. I want you to show me a shot of where Clark is actually seen killing someone other than Zod.... I'll wait.

MCU got let off with the fact that Avengers is a copy of Transformers. Got away with changing Ultrons origin. Avengers destruction. Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch looking nothing like their counter parts. Banner casually transforming to Hulk without trouble. Mixing up Crimson Dynamo and Whiplash. The aliens dying without them explaining how they died in AV. Destroyer in Thor.

Fox give people a nice look at the Thing and the MCU fanboys cry out that it looks awful, but does it really? The answer is no.

The only thing MCU didn't get away with is Mandarin only because Ironman 3 is just awful.

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#224 Posted by Jestersmiles (9826 posts) - - Show Bio

5 pages when a featless wonder is involved? My god are people that easy to bait?

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#225 Edited by GXrevolution96 (3654 posts) - - Show Bio

@jestersmiles said:

5 pages when a featless wonder is involved? My god are people that easy to bait?

There was a clip released of the Hulk vs Hulkbuster fight. That is how this all started.

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#226 Edited by Jestersmiles (9826 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevolution96: that still not enough to debate around. This is just a bait thread.

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#227 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@kfabz-23: What you are asking for is seriously dumb, you think they would actually show Clark killing civilians? Did they show every room in the building? How do you know it's completely empty? And what about those buildings falling down on peoples heads?

Let off by who? You do know that there are people that still complain about that? What are you judging this by? A few people bitching about it in the comments section? Did someone that actually mattered came out and say The Thing looks stupid? Any online reviewer or Marvel person, Stan Lee? Anyone? Even as we speak there are people complaining and bitching about the fact that Marvel is releasing too many clips from Avengers. Literally the dumbest thing you can complain about because no one is forcing you to click and watch those videos but they somehow find a way to complain.

So just stop...

You wanna talk about how awful MOS is, let's talk about the obvious Jesus symbolism hammered into the viewers, how bad the acting was in certain parts, the treatment of the supporting cast, how they didn't really explore Clarks own POV on things and how stupid Jonathan Kent was.

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#228 Posted by OrdinaryAlan (6717 posts) - - Show Bio

5 pages of nothing but speculation. Smh...

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#229 Posted by HelixFlameYT (1922 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmmmm I wonder something that has yet to beat the thing it was created or something that can match up to someone with much greater power than that thing????

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#230 Posted by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: so you have no actual proof of Clark killing someone? Just assumptions Ok moving on. Every building that was knocked down was from the World Engine and Zod's heat vision.

I'm not saying people don't complain about MCU, I'm sayin they get let off much easier compared to other studios. In a business every customer matters so a MCU fanboy complaining about The Thing is no different than a reviewer saying it looks bad, so I don't why you would say was it anyone that matters. Everyone matters period.

The Jesus symbolism is simply because the superman origin story and Jesus story has a lot of similarities & they played similar roles.

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#231 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@kfabz-23: No but you have to throw your suspension of disbelief really hard not to imagine all that fighting hasn't accidentally killed anyone.

They are let off much easier because they happen to make better movies.. why is that so hard to get? And what does some person complaining about The Thing change in any way how the final thing will look like? Everyone doesn't matter, don't flatter yourself. Yours and mines opinions are meaningless. Actually opinions that can move an entire group of people now those matter a lot more then yours and mines do.

So let's hammer it into the audience?

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and it's not like they don't do it several times though the movie, good job Zack we get it Superman is Jesus your symbolism was so subtle....

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#232 Edited by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: don't hit me with that, you have no proof and that's, that. Because if that's the case The Avengers body count would be very high.

I would argue that X-Men 2, X-Men First Class & Days of Future Past are better than the whole MCU. The Dark Knight Trilogy is better than the whole MCU. MOS is better than most of MCU.

That vid is too long, but I read the comments and still the fans are split.

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#234 Posted by THEOCITYLEGEND (1582 posts) - - Show Bio

This is stupid. Wait for the movie to come out.

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#235 Posted by I_Am_Lightning (3496 posts) - - Show Bio

No, litteraly, fu*k this thread and everyone in it. Can't you guys just wait till the 22nd?


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#236 Posted by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: I just watched the last 10 mins of that vid and it sums it up really. You would never like it, I always will.

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#237 Edited by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@kfabz-23: The Avengers where not toppling buildings on each other and unlike Superman there was no way for them to take the fight anywhere else.

You can argue all you want it's personal preferences. The Dark Knight is probably better then any MCU movie i saw, the entire trilogy isn't because they dropped the ball with the last one but the second one was the best comic book movie i ever saw. I doubt MOS is better then most MCU movies.

The whole reason he made the video and included Angry Joe is because the fans are so split on the movie, but every point he brings is a valid point and critique and if you dont want to watch the entire thing go to the 44min mark and watch the summary and conclusion it is perfect and he tries to justify both sides that like and hate the movie.

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#238 Posted by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

@sodamyat said:

The Avengers were letting the city get destroyed while they made a little circle and touched their weapons(while hulk screamed)

and then afterwards they didnt even help people or help buildings that were unstable....

they went directly to eat....while still in uniform. way to go Avengers

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#239 Posted by RandomSid82 (9864 posts) - - Show Bio

@sodamyat said:

@sodamyat said:

The Avengers were letting the city get destroyed while they made a little circle and touched their weapons(while hulk screamed)

and then afterwards they didnt even help people or help buildings that were unstable....

they went directly to eat....while still in uniform. way to go Avengers

Cause you know, we saw Superman help rebuild right? Oh that's right, we didn't. We did see him destroy government property at the end of the movie though....

Anyway, if nothing else, this thread is giving me a good laugh.

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#240 Posted by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

@randomsid: thats why i made my commets. because of the superman talk. so my comments are in response to that.

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#241 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

@randomsid: Don't reply to him, he has no point. All he can do is quote himself.

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#242 Posted by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: LOL stop stalking me dude. focus on the thread. Stop constantly thinking about me

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#243 Edited by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

I wasn't even talking to the poor guy, yet he tried so hard to show his post to me, going so far as quoting himself because i skipped his comment.. so sad. Though i guess it's hard not to "stalk" someone when he has 50 different accounts on this site, who knows when you are and when you are not talking to one of them lol.

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#244 Edited by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: but why are you so mad? take off the tin foil hat, there are no conspiracies. theres no need to stalk me and insult me

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#245 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

Again it replies to me... but i am the one doing the stalking lol. I didn't know i was "made" though. Get off @foreverevil go stalk an MCU thread and complain about niche things like how Marvel is releasing too many clips lol.

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#246 Posted by EmperorxHadesx420 (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod still stomp this weakling.

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#247 Edited by kfabz-23 (6135 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: yeah I saw the last minutes of it, although I disagree the point that was made it goes against everything Superman stands for, the video is spot on. So is that the debate done?

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#248 Edited by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

@atheistknowledge: youre talking at me but dont tag me. you not tagging me doesnt mean youre not still talking at me. i just blew your mind didnt i lol.

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#249 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh... it keeps tagging me..

@kfabz-23 Yea hopefully.

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#250 Edited by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

your antics are childish @atheistknowledge