Here is the thing guys
As far as the Hulk and Juggernaut
There are arguments that support both sides
I can post statements from other characters that says the Hulk has virtually no limit to his strength
Like when the Beyonder studies him and stated this
Same goes for his healing factor as stated by Wolverine
And then there is his durability as shown by the mindless Hulk taking a Blow from Thor's hammer in hand and standing ground
We see characters fluctuate all the time (even Juggernaut)
A writer the Hulk on levels with Heralds one day
Then no better than the Rhino another
What has always been official from Marvel is that Juggernaut and the Hulk are rivals in power
And neither has one a battle with the other without some PIS
Even I (who likes to argue) is tired off the same old stuff with these two in a thread
Hulk Vs. Juggernaut
Well put. I feel the same way about Cap Marvel and Superman. One is magic and the other is science but their power has never been proven to be greater than the other. I made a comparison once stating how Juggernaut's and Hulk's rivalry mirrors Cap Marvel and Superman. Two of the argued strongest in their universe, who have different elements allowing those titles with fights between them varying on occasion. But it is entertaining to see fans of the Hulk and Juggernaut duke it out. Even more so than the actual fights between those two. But by now everyone must see that it is a vicious circle that can't be concluded because they are rivals.
" Spider man defeated the Juggernaut. I don't think he could defeat Hulk. "What are you talking about?I haven't seen the comic where Spiderman beat Juggernaut but I'm sure Spiderman used his wits to defeat Juggernaut instead of straight up fighting him one on one.If we're talking about regular ol Savage Hulk then all Hulk will do is letting his fists do the talking.And Juggernaut wouldn't be harmed by the Hulk's attacks either.One time Juggernaut was reduced to nothing but a skeleton and he not only lived through it but he shrugged it off as if it was a paper cut.
Juggernaut wins...
" I am not sure if physical attacks can hurt the Hulk either. However, the Juggernaut always has the advantage of having magical powers. "well you should be sure that they can, since he's been beaten by physical attacks on numerous occaisions
" @the human Juggernaut said:...no" @Edamame said:PIS? "" I am not sure if physical attacks can hurt the Hulk either. However, the Juggernaut always has the advantage of having magical powers. "well you should be sure that they can, since he's been beaten by physical attacks on numerous occaisions "
On paper Jugg powers are superior to Hulk. (Immunity to physical force) What are is Hulk greatest power? (Potential Limitless physical force) Logically Jugg is Hulk's kryptonite. Don't you ever notice that every time they battle, Hulk would try to BFR him. Oh and On that hulk has limitless strength thing. That power takes time to build and when Hulk battle bricks that are in his strength class he usually show signs of struggle because he doesn't have immense strength from the start. "Hit him hard and hit him fast" That is how you KO hulk..
And Juggs have the capabilities to do so.
Things I laugh about:
Someone argued Hulk have invulnerability. I find it funny because his power contradict that. Why have a healing factor if you can't be injured. Conclusion is Hulk does have some physical resistance, but Hulk can still bleed, and bruise if hit hard enoguh.
Than what is stopping Jugg from stomping the Hulk around like a punching bag?
The writer because Jugg is a villian and the hero ( Hulk ) would have to win somehow, so BFR.
If they made Jugg a hero and Jugg's at his prime, then he would be consider the strongest on earth.
"Is the Hulk's physical strength truly infinite? I have not seen this issue addressed in the comics. Obviously, the phrase most often used is that the madder the Hulk gets, but is the Hulk's anger infinite as well? "
of course not ... The only one with infinity anything is TOAA. Not even the celestials got infinte X stuff.
"Cain wins in a very close and tough battle. I like his endurance better than Hulk's and his strength is on par also."
Juggy endurance is actually greater
"@StrongestOneThereIs: yeah 20 years ago, but currently that scan doesnt match up to juggernauts feats does it "
U r right
But they don't match with the Hulk's power now either
"@StrongestOneThereIs: juggernaut and hulk are almost on the same power lvl, difference is juggernaut's enderance is better "
If you go by feats
Hulk has been shown to be stronger
And Juggernaut as far as durability (with his shields)
But you are right with the endurance statement
"Hulk
Im going to say this once, JUGGY IS NOT INDESTRUCTIBLE OR UNSTOPPABLE, it's just a saying.
"
http://home.comcast.net/~jbryan55/Juggernaut/Hulkernaut2.jpg
Sorry, just hadda put that up after seeing so many scans of Juggs getting whailed. I go with Juggernaut.
In terms of powers. I think Juggs has the edge. Magic He's being backed up by a powerful being. He's suppose to be unstoppable and Hulk's has potential unlimited strength. I don't think Jugg would ever let the Hulk reach that level. Spiderman had once taken out the Hulk before Hulk had raged to a level that was dangerous.
Example: Spiderman baited Hulk into a wall, stuck with a truck and the truck dropped onto the Hulk's head, knocking him out. Hulk was taken out easily because he wasn't at that level of rage where his durability was high enough to tank the truck. There's also another way to stop the Hulk's potential. Fear. If Hulk's fear overrides his anger similar to how he reacted to the void. Another one would be pain.
Ummm...One more thing I don't think the Hulk's the strongest there is. It's something he says to bring out confidence in himself.. Characters like sliver surfer can reach a strength level higher than the Hulk by using the power of cosmic. .
Juggernaut Wins (Click me!)
" @FLCL1 said:@StrongestOneThereIs: Do you know what Trion Juggernaut is? And his strength feats?"@StrongestOneThereIs: yeah 20 years ago, but currently that scan doesnt match up to juggernauts feats does it "
U r right
But they don't match with the Hulk's power now either
"
" Hulk can win too, if he gets mad enough to stop Juggy, like he already did. "War Hulk stopped Juggernaut due to apocalypse's help other wise Hulk would get dragged forever but at their peaks Juggernaut wins hulk can't hurt him .
" @Gremlin From Kremlin said:Not really. In that comic, Hulk threw Juggs only from the desert to Cairo, but there was a time when he threw Fing Fang Foom to the Moon, who is like 50 times heavier than Juggy. Hulk doesn't have to hurt him to win." Hulk can win too, if he gets mad enough to stop Juggy, like he already did. "War Hulk stopped Juggernaut due to apocalypse's help other wise Hulk would get dragged forever but at their peaks Juggernaut wins hulk can't hurt him . "
Speed: Hulk by far Agility: Hulk by far
Durability: Juggernaut by far
Strength: About equal, can lift and grapple at similar strengths. Although I have seen more impressive things from Hulk.
Striking Ability: Hulk, he's more agile and faster. He can deal more devastating blows.
Energy Projectile: Juggernaut by far, Hulk has none. Juggernaut's aura benefits him.
Stamina/ Endurance: Juggernaut seems to have infinity endurance.
Hulk: 3
Juggernaut: 3
Hulk can definitely beat Juggernaut in some occasions, specially with BFR. He is much faster and more agile than Juggernaut as well. But I would give Juggernaut the very slight majority because his energy source comes from nearly incalculable energy.
Juggernait 6/10
" new juggernaut wins old one loses Cyttorakk repowered him account for the varibles..of change hes a new juggernaut if u look at that battle...and he wasnt slowing down "Isn't the old Juggernaut the 8th day Juggernaut? If he is, then the old one is way better than the new one.
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