A hulk that was dying already beat up on him. A hulk that is at full health will really beat up on him.
The weakened Hulk argument where he was hurt badly by a dinosaur iirc but when he fought Gladiator he could tank an atmosphere fall with no damage, weakened Hulk didn't exist in that fight.
Hulk gains telepathy to know Gladiator's weakness is still one of the greatest plot devices that i have ever read in a horrible comic, Not to mention Hulk's hand is more durable than his body which again shows how inconsistently bad Hulk comics are.
Gladiator with no cis/pis murderstomps Hulk with his combat speed as it'd take Hulk over 34 years to react to anything Gladiator does considering his nano-seconds feat and the multi-universal blitz in Mighty Thor.
Oh good Gladiator has his nanosecond and galaxy blitz speed back. It's not as if the character's use of speed in combat is pitifully inconsistent or downright non existent during many of the character's fights over the years.
Oh good Gladiator has his nanosecond and galaxy blitz speed back. It's not as if the character's use of speed in combat is pitifully inconsistent or downright non existent during many of the character's fights over the years.
Gladiator has more consistent blitz feats than Hulk has of tagging speedsters during said blitzes.
A hulk that was dying already beat up on him. A hulk that is at full health will really beat up on him.
The weakened Hulk argument where he was hurt badly by a dinosaur iirc but when he fought Gladiator he could tank an atmosphere fall with no damage, weakened Hulk didn't exist in that fight.
Hulk gains telepathy to know Gladiator's weakness is still one of the greatest plot devices that i have ever read in a horrible comic, Not to mention Hulk's hand is more durable than his body which again shows how inconsistently bad Hulk comics are.
Gladiator with no cis/pis murderstomps Hulk with his combat speed as it'd take Hulk over 34 years to react to anything Gladiator does considering his nano-seconds feat and the multi-universal blitz in Mighty Thor.
Facts dont care about your feels, by the continuity at the time Hulk was weakened and yes him tanking falling from atmosphere does not debunk that. Hulks hand is not more durable than his body the difference is Hulks hand was point blank into Gladiators face, his body wasn't. It's simple physics a middle schooler would understand. For example fire burns would you take a blow torch to a piece of wood at a couple of feet distance and after a few minutes it would burn it, you bring that would point blank to the muzzle of the blow torch and that fire is gonna backfire. It's not that Hulks comics are inconsistent, it's that his powerset allows him to vary between incarnations as well as there being context like the one you are trying to ignore here. Ironically Gladiator is far more inconsistent going from fighting Colossus to a near standstill and 3-shotting some planetoid.
Gladiator with no CIS/PIS in the world would die HORRIBLY against Hulk, this is a guy that can barely defeat Heimdall in recent times and you want him to take on Hulk. Ah yes that infamous reaction that happened 1 time in Gladiators entire publication that could just as easily be hyperbole but still be nothing close to what he normally operates and that massively underwhelming universal blitz that couldn't even knock out Heimdall.
No matter how much you try, no matter how hard you try to spin it. Gladiator can't beat Hulk cause he simple doesn't have the tools for it.
This Gladiator wank needs to seriously stop... Nobody takes any character that has hundreds-thousands of publications and between all of that has only 1-2 impressive feats while dozens upon dozens of feats where they dont even preform on standard powerhouse level. I mean come on... How hard do you guys actually want Gladiator to not be piss poor in comparison to him actually being piss poor, blame it on the lack of popularity of the character, not having his own book, blame it on anything you want it still doesn't change the fact that he isn't even Hulk/Thor level let alone someone that can best Superman i mean that's just laughable, it's actually downright embarrassing.
Oh good Gladiator has his nanosecond and galaxy blitz speed back. It's not as if the character's use of speed in combat is pitifully inconsistent or downright non existent during many of the character's fights over the years.
Gladiator has more consistent blitz feats than Hulk has of tagging speedsters during said blitzes.
Not really, Hulk actually has a greater number of blitz feats than Gladiator. That's down to a larger number of appearances but if we're comparing numbers, Hulk has blitzed more often than Gladiator. And Gladiator has either only blitzed characters with street level/low superhuman speed or been blitzed by them like Eric Masteron Thor and Gambit. He hasn't bullrushed at FTL speeds or blitzed people with hundreds/thousands of punches consistently. Even granting the speed gap, Gladiator is woefully outclassed in strength, durability and comparative performances against the same opponents. He has nothing to prove he can beat Hulk for a majority.
A hulk that was dying already beat up on him. A hulk that is at full health will really beat up on him.
The weakened Hulk argument where he was hurt badly by a dinosaur iirc but when he fought Gladiator he could tank an atmosphere fall with no damage, weakened Hulk didn't exist in that fight.
Hulk gains telepathy to know Gladiator's weakness is still one of the greatest plot devices that i have ever read in a horrible comic, Not to mention Hulk's hand is more durable than his body which again shows how inconsistently bad Hulk comics are.
Gladiator with no cis/pis murderstomps Hulk with his combat speed as it'd take Hulk over 34 years to react to anything Gladiator does considering his nano-seconds feat and the multi-universal blitz in Mighty Thor.
Facts dont care about your feels, by the continuity at the time Hulk was weakened and yes him tanking falling from atmosphere does not debunk that. Hulks hand is not more durable than his body the difference is Hulks hand was point blank into Gladiators face, his body wasn't. It's simple physics a middle schooler would understand. For example fire burns would you take a blow torch to a piece of wood at a couple of feet distance and after a few minutes it would burn it, you bring that would point blank to the muzzle of the blow torch and that fire is gonna backfire. It's not that Hulks comics are inconsistent, it's that his powerset allows him to vary between incarnations as well as there being context like the one you are trying to ignore here. Ironically Gladiator is far more inconsistent going from fighting Colossus to a near standstill and 3-shotting some planetoid.
Gladiator with no CIS/PIS in the world would die HORRIBLY against Hulk, this is a guy that can barely defeat Heimdall in recent times and you want him to take on Hulk. Ah yes that infamous reaction that happened 1 time in Gladiators entire publication that could just as easily be hyperbole but still be nothing close to what he normally operates and that massively underwhelming universal blitz that couldn't even knock out Heimdall.
No matter how much you try, no matter how hard you try to spin it. Gladiator can't beat Hulk cause he simple doesn't have the tools for it.
What feelings hahahahaha and yes Hulk's hand was more durable than his body as you need to book an appointment with an optometrist
Your wood analogy is pathetic and doesn't apply to Gladiator considering his optic blast is hotter than stars but some how it's restricted to burning through Hulk's chest but not his hand since logic doesn't apply to the Hulk fan club lol, Hulk tanking a fall from the atmosphere doesn't debunk Hulk being weak but a dinosaur somehow does more damage is just moronic beyond words and another thing how does Hulk's hand reflect heat since Gladiator's optic blast isn't concussive force as it makes no sense at all unless you deny basic science.
Without pis/cis Gladiator would leave Hulk as a green smear since Hulk lacks combat speed and reactionary speed to fight anybody on Gladiator's level, Gladiator could barely defeat Heimdall but in the comic all he got in was one shot and was brutality beaten and sent across a city with little effort despite Heimdall managing the same thing with Mangog, again Heimdall was dealt the same one sided defeat on both occasions. Gladiator multi-universal blitz wasn't underwhelming at all as Gladiator stated on panel he wasn't there to fight him and was holding back as to take things out of context to low ball is childish.
Oh good Gladiator has his nanosecond and galaxy blitz speed back. It's not as if the character's use of speed in combat is pitifully inconsistent or downright non existent during many of the character's fights over the years.
Gladiator has more consistent blitz feats than Hulk has of tagging speedsters during said blitzes.
Not really, Hulk actually has a greater number of blitz feats than Gladiator. That's down to a larger number of appearances but if we're comparing numbers, Hulk has blitzed more often than Gladiator. And Gladiator has either only blitzed characters with street level/low superhuman speed or been blitzed by them like Eric Masteron Thor and Gambit. He hasn't bullrushed at FTL speeds or blitzed people with hundreds/thousands of punches consistently. Even granting the speed gap, Gladiator is woefully outclassed in strength, durability and comparative performances against the same opponents. He has nothing to prove he can beat Hulk for a majority.
Hulk has a greater number of blitz feats than Gladiator as i'd like to see Hulk have one blitz anywhere close to Gladiators.
Oh boy you can't be serious and Hulk has never tanked anything on Gladiators level like the half a solar system explosion, taking three hits from Tyrant before being ko'd while it took less to deal with Surfer and other High Tier Heralds (Hulk has been one shot by far less), Took on the Phoenix five better than an entire team of Avengers which included Rulk, Took a blast from the Destroyer that has killed Thor before without being ko'd etc. Eric Masterson blitzed Gladiator after he was done with Wonder Man iirc and he did so from behind, after that Gladiator dominated with his combat speed until plot had Gladiator stand still to get hit by living lighting, The Gambit moment doesn't prove anything and who have Hulk and Gladiator fought that was the same outside of Annihilus who used fear to diminish Gladiator's confidence as who else have they both fought ?.
Hulk has a greater number of blitz feats than Gladiator as i'd like to see Hulk have one blitz anywhere close to Gladiators.
Posting a laughing reaction doesn't change the fact that Gladiator's speed is not as effectively utilised as someone like Iron Man's speed blitzes, let alone a high tier like Superman or Flash uses their speed in combat. You've had this shown to you countless times by numerous users yet you persist in a fantasy where Gladiator is a nanosecond light speeder on average.
Oh boy you can't be serious and Hulk has never tanked anything on Gladiators level like the half a solar system explosion,
To quote TheDailyBagel's response to this highballed cherry picking from his CAV
No, they aren't that 'remarkable' nor consistent and certainly don't compare to the Hulk in any way, shape or form. For starters, the first feat mentioned here occurred in Fantastic Four #249 written by John Byrne and is a wildly different portrayal not only in terms of it being Kallarks best and only feat ever on that level, but it's a stark contrast in power level as to how his own creator wrote him at a similar time period. For instance take Uncanny X-Men #137 which took place merely two years before your own scan in question, Claremont (Gladiator's creator) made it abundantly clear that Gladiator was nigh equals with freaking Colossusin his teen years, actually stalemating him whilst both explicitly going all out...
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The narration makes it very clear that the only reason they stopped fighting was because a bunch of buildings collapsed on them resulting in a double KO given that neither of them managed to move for minutes at a time - Gladiator just recovered before Colossus could, and again it was made clear that he did so painfully. In comparison to this showing, we can use World War Hulk: X-Men #2 wherein Green Scar Hulk engages a much older and experienced Piotr, except unlike Kallark, Hulk crushes his arms with zero effort and leaves him dangling around like a moron for the rest of the tie in...
So we have Gladiator fighting and getting knocked out by buildings under his own creator versus tanking a solar system attack under John Byrne, the problem for you is that I know you can't prove consistency on your end of the argument whereas I can. It's also worth mentioning that John Byrne co-wrote the previous instance with Gladiator and Piotr. Let's take Uncanny X-Men #275 as another instance to support my case, which was published almost 10 years after your example, and written by none other than Chris Claremont again. Gladiator with help fought a team of X-Men and Starjammers that lacked a single powerhouse and ended up in chains literally two pages after the engagement began:
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In literally the next issue Gladiator engages Deathbird in combat and whilst managing to overpower her both before and prior to this, is noticeably injured by her twice, and this is the same Deathbird that Wolverine beat in the prior issue and proceeded to smack down and pummel in the following issue using nothing but his fists to the point that he needed to be pulled away...
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In Uncanny X-Men #277 which is the next issue, Kallark fights and engages Gambit in combat, Kallark is oh so fast and powerful that he comments on Gambits agility and then gets his ass KOed >again< by a full pack of cards exploding on his chest:
I mean for Jesus sake the guy was KOed in his very first appearance by a random laser blast from Corsair in Uncanny X-Men #107, with the said weapon having no mentioned special properties other than looking quite badass to dual-wield...
This is five instances all written by Gladiators own creator as well as the person to have written him the most, another co-written by the writer of your example, each of which takes place either well before your own example, around the same time period, or well after it. Gladiator does not have that level of durability consistently, or at all in any other appearance, he is consistently harmed by far less than even continental or country level force, in fact, outright beaten by less than even that in four of these examples and I have more to bring to the table if needs be. None of these are contextual either, no 'lacking confidence' or any other excuse as to why his power was portrayed this way under Claremont other than this being his opinion on Kallark's power level. Green Scar Hulk can do shit like squash Hercules face in three blows or oneshot Loeb's Rulk who at the time had the power of the cosmic Hulk robot as I've already explained. Unlike Gladiator, Green Scar puts people down when he decides to and has never legitimately lost a fight outside of a damn skyfather in the form of Zeus. World Breaker Hulk chews through planets without even touching them, I'm inclined to say that Gladiator gets every bone broken in his body by a single punch, he doesn't have the durability to withstand blows from Hulk, period and has been KOed by far less than Hulk can dish out.
taking three hits from Tyrant before being ko'd while it took less to deal with Surfer and other High Tier Heralds
Surfer and Bill have no sold planet busting explosions as well as star level heat. That makes them far more durable than Gladiator by feats.
Took on the Phoenix five better than an entire team of Avengers which included Rulk
If getting the crap beaten out of him is taking on the P5 better than the Avengers, I want what you're smoking.
Took a blast from the Destroyer that has killed Thor before without being ko'd etc.
So has Thor and Jane Foster as well as Hulk.
The Gambit moment doesn't prove anything and who have Hulk and Gladiator fought that was the same outside of Annihilus who used fear to diminish Gladiator's confidence as who else have they both fought ?
Gladiator didn't have his confidence weakened by Annihilus, there's no evidence which supports this conspiracy theory. The fact is that Annihilus directly stated the Hulk gave him more of a challenge than Gladiator did. I can understand why you want to make up some excuses which paint his fight with Annihilus in a better light but that doesn't mask the truth.
Lets post up all those blitzes shall we.
I've already debunked all of these in another posts. If you're just going to regurgitate the same faulty claims, then I don't want my time wasted.
@hellionvulcan: Both Glads and Hulk could hardly talk and was struggling to get back up after falling from the atmosphere, they didn’t tank it. The difference is that hulk was weakened, Kallark wasn’t.
@hellionvulcan: Both Glads and Hulk could hardly talk and was struggling to get back up after falling from the atmosphere, they didn’t tank it. The difference is that hulk was weakened, Kallark wasn’t.
Gladiator was fighting in an area surrounded by one of his weaknesses and again how does a weakened Hulk, who could barely recover after a dinosaur attack get up from an atmosphere fall ?.
Hulk has a greater number of blitz feats than Gladiator as i'd like to see Hulk have one blitz anywhere close to Gladiators.
Posting a laughing reaction doesn't change the fact that Gladiator's speed is not as effectively utilised as someone like Iron Man's speed blitzes, let alone a high tier like Superman or Flash uses their speed in combat. You've had this shown to you countless times by numerous users yet you persist in a fantasy where Gladiator is a nanosecond light speeder on average.
Oh boy you can't be serious and Hulk has never tanked anything on Gladiators level like the half a solar system explosion,
To quote TheDailyBagel's response to this highballed cherry picking from his CAV
No, they aren't that 'remarkable' nor consistent and certainly don't compare to the Hulk in any way, shape or form. For starters, the first feat mentioned here occurred in Fantastic Four #249 written by John Byrne and is a wildly different portrayal not only in terms of it being Kallarks best and only feat ever on that level, but it's a stark contrast in power level as to how his own creator wrote him at a similar time period. For instance take Uncanny X-Men #137 which took place merely two years before your own scan in question, Claremont (Gladiator's creator) made it abundantly clear that Gladiator was nigh equals with freaking Colossusin his teen years, actually stalemating him whilst both explicitly going all out...
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The narration makes it very clear that the only reason they stopped fighting was because a bunch of buildings collapsed on them resulting in a double KO given that neither of them managed to move for minutes at a time - Gladiator just recovered before Colossus could, and again it was made clear that he did so painfully. In comparison to this showing, we can use World War Hulk: X-Men #2 wherein Green Scar Hulk engages a much older and experienced Piotr, except unlike Kallark, Hulk crushes his arms with zero effort and leaves him dangling around like a moron for the rest of the tie in...
So we have Gladiator fighting and getting knocked out by buildings under his own creator versus tanking a solar system attack under John Byrne, the problem for you is that I know you can't prove consistency on your end of the argument whereas I can. It's also worth mentioning that John Byrne co-wrote the previous instance with Gladiator and Piotr. Let's take Uncanny X-Men #275 as another instance to support my case, which was published almost 10 years after your example, and written by none other than Chris Claremont again. Gladiator with help fought a team of X-Men and Starjammers that lacked a single powerhouse and ended up in chains literally two pages after the engagement began:
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In literally the next issue Gladiator engages Deathbird in combat and whilst managing to overpower her both before and prior to this, is noticeably injured by her twice, and this is the same Deathbird that Wolverine beat in the prior issue and proceeded to smack down and pummel in the following issue using nothing but his fists to the point that he needed to be pulled away...
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In Uncanny X-Men #277 which is the next issue, Kallark fights and engages Gambit in combat, Kallark is oh so fast and powerful that he comments on Gambits agility and then gets his ass KOed >again< by a full pack of cards exploding on his chest:
I mean for Jesus sake the guy was KOed in his very first appearance by a random laser blast from Corsair in Uncanny X-Men #107, with the said weapon having no mentioned special properties other than looking quite badass to dual-wield...
This is five instances all written by Gladiators own creator as well as the person to have written him the most, another co-written by the writer of your example, each of which takes place either well before your own example, around the same time period, or well after it. Gladiator does not have that level of durability consistently, or at all in any other appearance, he is consistently harmed by far less than even continental or country level force, in fact, outright beaten by less than even that in four of these examples and I have more to bring to the table if needs be. None of these are contextual either, no 'lacking confidence' or any other excuse as to why his power was portrayed this way under Claremont other than this being his opinion on Kallark's power level. Green Scar Hulk can do shit like squash Hercules face in three blows or oneshot Loeb's Rulk who at the time had the power of the cosmic Hulk robot as I've already explained. Unlike Gladiator, Green Scar puts people down when he decides to and has never legitimately lost a fight outside of a damn skyfather in the form of Zeus. World Breaker Hulk chews through planets without even touching them, I'm inclined to say that Gladiator gets every bone broken in his body by a single punch, he doesn't have the durability to withstand blows from Hulk, period and has been KOed by far less than Hulk can dish out.
taking three hits from Tyrant before being ko'd while it took less to deal with Surfer and other High Tier Heralds
Surfer and Bill have no sold planet busting explosions as well as star level heat. That makes them far more durable than Gladiator by feats.
Took on the Phoenix five better than an entire team of Avengers which included Rulk
If getting the crap beaten out of him is taking on the P5 better than the Avengers, I want what you're smoking.
Took a blast from the Destroyer that has killed Thor before without being ko'd etc.
So has Thor and Jane Foster as well as Hulk.
The Gambit moment doesn't prove anything and who have Hulk and Gladiator fought that was the same outside of Annihilus who used fear to diminish Gladiator's confidence as who else have they both fought ?
Gladiator didn't have his confidence weakened by Annihilus, there's no evidence which supports this conspiracy theory. The fact is that Annihilus directly stated the Hulk gave him more of a challenge than Gladiator did. I can understand why you want to make up some excuses which paint his fight with Annihilus in a better light but that doesn't mask the truth.
Lets post up all those blitzes shall we.
I've already debunked all of these in another posts. If you're just going to regurgitate the same faulty claims, then I don't want my time wasted.
It's great that you bought up Gladiator vs Colossus considering Colossus has temporary ko'd Hulk before OUCH, Still no evidence Gladiator was ko'd by Gambit just knocked off panel.
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and you forgot to mention ever since that fight Colossus has never operated at that level again or as you Hulk fanboys repeatedly say outlier,outlier,outlier.
Still waiting on that list of Hulk blitzes as you made the claim he had more than Gladiator not me, So post them all as i want to see you back up this claim.
Gladiator was fighting in an area surrounded by one of his weaknesses
lol this is typical Gladiator fan lingo, you've literally just made this up. There was never any indication that Kallark was being affected by the radiation until Hulk threw him into the power planet, literally zero. Glads is just a weakling. Get over it.
and again how does a weakened Hulk, who could barely recover after a dinosaur attack get up from an atmosphere fall ?.
Because Hulk's durability was inconsistent throughout that time period and was progressively getting worse, he wasn't at the point that a dinosaur could beat him when he fought Glads but IIRC it was after a Missile almost KOed him in his own book.
It's great that you bought up Gladiator vs Colossus considering Colossus has temporary ko'd Hulk before OUCH, Still no evidence Gladiator was ko'd by Gambit just knocked off panel.
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and you forgot to mention ever since that fight Colossus has never operated at that level again or as you Hulk fanboys repeatedly say outlier,outlier,outlier.
Also despite this being directed at @lvenger it's piss poor debating and just ignoring of context if not outright lying. Colossus didn't so much as tickle Hulk and the next page after your own is this:
Hulk was just playing possum... In fact, earlier in the issue Piotr literally admitted that Hulk didn't even notice being punched by him and got slapped down by one hit to the point that Kitty needed to save him and Piotr himself said as much...
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This is without taking into account that this was published in 2009 but took place "years ago" in continuity, ergo, pre core breach Hulk still slapped around Piotr like it was nobodies business.
And funnily enough, the guy who wrote this is none other than Chris Claremont, same guy that created Gladiator, wrote most of his appearances and had him stalemate Colossus.
Gladiator was fighting in an area surrounded by one of his weaknesses
lol this is typical Gladiator fan lingo, you've literally just made this up. There was never any indication that Kallark was being affected by the radiation until Hulk threw him into the power planet, literally zero. Glads is just a weakling. Get over it.
and again how does a weakened Hulk, who could barely recover after a dinosaur attack get up from an atmosphere fall ?.
Because Hulk's durability was inconsistent throughout that time period and was progressively getting worse, he wasn't at the point that a dinosaur could beat him when he fought Glads but IIRC it was after a Missile almost KOed him in his own book.
It's great that you bought up Gladiator vs Colossus considering Colossus has temporary ko'd Hulk before OUCH, Still no evidence Gladiator was ko'd by Gambit just knocked off panel.
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and you forgot to mention ever since that fight Colossus has never operated at that level again or as you Hulk fanboys repeatedly say outlier,outlier,outlier.
Also despite this being directed at @lvenger it's piss poor debating and just ignoring of context if not outright lying. Colossus didn't so much as tickle Hulk and the next page after your own is this:
Hulk was just playing possum... In fact, earlier in the issue Piotr literally admitted that Hulk didn't even notice being punched by him and got slapped down by one hit to the point that Kitty needed to save him and Piotr himself said as much...
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This is without taking into account that this was published in 2009 but took place "years ago" in continuity, ergo, pre core breach Hulk still slapped around Piotr like it was nobodies business.
And funnily enough, the guy who wrote this is none other than Chris Claremont, same guy that created Gladiator, wrote most of his appearances and had him stalemate Colossus.
"Playing possum" yet i am the one accused of lying as Hulk was ko'd considering Hulk had no reason to wait for Colossus to walk over and see what he had done, Colossus didn't tickle Hulk despite on panel Colossus did the complete opposite with the majority of his attacks hence why he had Hulk down and out.
The funniest thing is that Gladiator ko'd Colossus in their first ever fight and the same writer had Colossus ko Hulk momentarily.
You're using a synopsis (is that from Wikipedia???) and a close up of Hulk's face as your argument despite it being clear that Hulk was pretending to be KOed. Your own synopsis states that Hulk was KOed in the water and Colossus merely pulled him out and threw him on a rock, despite Hulk blatantly not being unconscious in the water... As for playing possum:
"Puny Human think a few punches would finish Hulk"
"Will I never learn? I slacken my guard for an instant"
Hulk plays possum quite often and the fact that you genuinely think Colossus KOed Hulk here astounds me. But then again you're a Gladiator fan that somehow thinks he's in Hulk's league and selectively replies to what you think you can counter , so no surprise.
You're using a synopsis (is that from Wikipedia???) and a close up of Hulk's face as your argument despite it being clear that Hulk was pretending to be KOed. Your own synopsis states that Hulk was KOed in the water and Colossus merely pulled him out and threw him on a rock, despite Hulk blatantly not being unconscious in the water... As for playing possum:
"Puny Human think a few punches would finish Hulk"
"Will I never learn? I slacken my guard for an instant"
Hulk plays possum quite often and the fact that you genuinely think Colossus KOed Hulk here astounds me. But then again you're a Gladiator fan that somehow thinks he's in Hulk's league and selectively replies to what you think you can counter , so no surprise.
"Finishˈfɪnɪʃ/verb - bring (a task or activity) to an end; complete." Hulk could've thought Colossus was trying to kill him but that doesn't change the fact that the Hulk was down and out while Colossus couldn't do the same with Gladiator. I've always considered Hulk mid herald tier and nothing has ever changed that.
@hellionvulcan: seriously, you're deceiving yourself for trying to downplay the hulk. Hulk was never Koed by colossus. Where are the rest of the scans?
@hellionvulcan: seriously, you're deceiving yourself for trying to downplay the hulk. Hulk was never Koed by colossus. Where are the rest of the scans?
Downplay the Hulk as i don't have to as the comic shows everything, If you want more scans go read X-Men Vs. Hulk.
@hellionvulcan: X-men vs hulk? who did hulk fight? if you're talking about hulk vs colossus, well, colossus punches didn't pose as a threat to the hulk. colossus punches was making him mad. colossus thought he had already put him down for. suddenly, the hulk woke up and one shot him. i beleive the hulk was actually playing possum at that moment of battle. aside from this fight. during the fight, Hulk was injured from his confrontation with Lockheed. Hulk already laid waste to both Colossus and Wolverine at the same time while holding back
love it when a colossus sucker punches an unexpecting hulk and does nothing but make him angry, hits him by my count 6 times in vital areas to no effect, but suddenly is able to "oneshot" a more angry (and thus durable) hulk, despite hulk blatantly saying that he thought that he got him but he didn't and peter even agreeing to this by stating that he let his guard down, and this is what let the hulk hit, but yeah, bruce just happened to wake up and for no reason say a line about colossus not finishing him, the exact moment colossus relaxed.
CAV me. Gladiator curbs? Based on what? Try bring something that can’t be torn apart through context or consistency.
CaV this.
You couldn't evaluate consistency with regard to reaction feats if your life depended on it. You Hulk guys need to get over yourselves with this crazy logic (oh, Gladiator got tagged, so that must mean it can really happen...Hulk has never been made helpless based on someone's superior reaction speed....blah, blah, blah...).
Gladiator has super reaction speed. Hulk, does not. I dare you to produce one quantifiable reaction feat for the Hulk. Here, I'll save you the time: there aren't any. Gladiator does.
Never seen such outright bias against a single character. As far as Hulk, this is a character that has become the new Wally West on comic vine. Eventually, we'll see threads like "WB Hulk vs. Odin". "WB Hulk vs Galactus". Not even joking. Superior reaction speed aside, Gladiator has busted a planet.
Hulk died in the planet busting explosion he and RSH caused. Why this is a discussion around here, I don't really know.
@blackstaroblivion: Try actually refuting someone's point before you claim bias for him having a clear cut victory over Gladiator. It makes posts like these ironic.
Well this has gotten really heated. Excluding all the previous nonsense, what's with all this bullshit about him being weak to nuclear radiation. Saying he was weakened while fighting Hulk is just incorrect. The form of radiation he's weak to isn't even known something id believe people siding with Gladiator in this conflict would actually know. Right?
love it when a colossus sucker punches an unexpecting hulk and does nothing but make him angry, hits him by my count 6 times in vital areas to no effect, but suddenly is able to "oneshot" a more angry (and thus durable) hulk, despite hulk blatantly saying that he thought that he got him but he didn't and peter even agreeing to this by stating that he let his guard down, and this is what let the hulk hit, but yeah, bruce just happened to wake up and for no reason say a line about colossus not finishing him, the exact moment colossus relaxed.
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I love the Xmen fight since it shows Peter can do better against a healthy Savage Hulk then Gladiator did against a dying Bannerless Hulk. It all works out.
Well this has gotten really heated. Excluding all the previous nonsense, what's with all this bullshit about him being weak to nuclear radiation. Saying he was weakened while fighting Hulk is just incorrect. The form of radiation he's weak to isn't even known something id believe people siding with Gladiator in this conflict would actually know. Right?
"what's with all this bs about him being weak to nuclear radiation" Maybe just maybe it's due to this horrible comic scene.
@hellionvulcan: Whys it horrible? Because a crappy mid tier got thrown into a nuclear radiation facility when it's explicitly stated he's vulenerable to an unknown form of radiation? Hulk was pummeling him after Gladiator pulled every trick in the book to defeat him and none of it worked.
I know you're just gonna ignore what you don't like and scan dump but thats how it happened in the annual.
This is close , but I will give it to Gladiator , he does have a speed advantage if he uses it properly and he could also use his Heat vision or freeze breath too.
@hellionvulcan: Whys it horrible? Because a crappy mid tier got thrown into a nuclear radiation facility when it's explicitly stated he's vulenerable to an unknown form of radiation? Hulk was pummeling him after Gladiator pulled every trick in the book to defeat him and none of it worked.
I know you're just gonna ignore what you don't like and scan dump but thats how it happened in the annual.
The whole plot of that issue was absolute trash similar to most comics today where nothing makes sense, Gladiator didn't use his superior combat speed once during the fight as the writer restricted Gladiator's skill set to job out in one of the worst comics of all time.
CAV me. Gladiator curbs? Based on what? Try bring something that can’t be torn apart through context or consistency.
CaV this.
You couldn't evaluate consistency with regard to reaction feats if your life depended on it. You Hulk guys need to get over yourselves with this crazy logic (oh, Gladiator got tagged, so that must mean it can really happen...Hulk has never been made helpless based on someone's superior reaction speed....blah, blah, blah...).
Gladiator has super reaction speed. Hulk, does not. I dare you to produce one quantifiable reaction feat for the Hulk. Here, I'll save you the time: there aren't any. Gladiator does.
Deal with it.
I'm still waiting on @lvenger's claim that Hulk has more blitzes than Gladiator since he made the claim and can't back it up in any capacity, I want to see anyone CaV that or post up these Hulk "blitzes" as all these Hulk fans can't seem to do either.
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