Hulk VS Gladiator

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  • Standard pre-Secret Wars versions.
  • Both combatants start at their standard state of confidence and rage.
  • Bloodlusted.
  • Win by any means except BFR.
  • They can't leave Earth's atmosphere.
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If anyone truly thinks gladiator wouldn't stomp with his far superior speed and flight then I am sorry for you

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Gladiator if he uses his speed properly.

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#4  Edited By Noone301994

Gladiator wins.

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Glads.

Stronger and more durable

I no longer thing that speed is an issue for hulk

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#6  Edited By darthdeadpool

@natedwag: gladiator has gone what like 100x times ftl, explicitly stated by Reed richards. I think it's gonna be a problem for hulk

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Gladiator

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Gladiator already lost to Hulk...... He was pretty helpless there. I think in reality it would be closer, but he doesn't have the endurance, both mentally and physically to take this.

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@darthdeadpool: i don't doubt it.

However, Hulk hasn't had a problem with speed...ever.

But I'll concede

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@natedwag: that's true hulk does do well against most people who are ftl. I guess whether you think it's pis or an ability of hulk to fight fast opponents is up to the reader

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@darthdeadpool: i used to think it was cis, but i read somewhere that hulk might have the passive ability( i hope i used that correctly) to speed himself up, kind of like flash and sups.

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No BFR = Hulk wins eventually.

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Gladiator

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Gladiator wins

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It should be gladiator. When hulk fights people like Hyperion, gladiator, etc it's just ridiculous. These people have nanosecond reaction times, yet can't dodge the hulk.

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@dball_20: So, Gladiator fighting Wonder Man shouldn't be taken seriously. Hyperion vs Wonder man too. I mean, in those fights, both characters showed amazing feats but, let's discard them because ''lol gladiator has nanosecond reaction time, so he shouldn't be fighting them''. Oh, and let's forget about thanos vs Silver Surfer too. And so on, right?

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If this is pre-secret wars then Doc Green would get stomped.

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@darthdeadpool:that's true hulk does do well against most people who are ftl. I guess whether you think it's pis or an ability of hulk to fight fast opponents is up to the reader

Hulk does well against people who are CAPABLE of going FTL. I have seen Hulk hit people who are going fast. But never when they are going FTL. have you seen Hulk hit people who are actually going FTL?

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Gladiator already lost to Hulk...... He was pretty helpless there. I think in reality it would be closer, but he doesn't have the endurance, both mentally and physically to take this.

Glads was not helpless. He could see Glads burning through Hulks flesh to the point you could see hulk's heart. Glads was stupid enough to keep blasting when he eyes were covered. Also, both were severely weakened. That fight proved very little

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He had trouble tagging Wolverine way back when. He's fast but not a speedster.

That said, I think he'd beat Gladiator more often than not.

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Gladiator lost to Hulk because of a weakness to certain combinations of radiation. It was never really explained what kind of radiation does it, but apparently it's present in Marvel Earth human nuclear reactors.

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Hulk wins, again.

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glads

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#24 WastelandMan  Online

Hasn't Hulk already won against Glads?

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#25  Edited By TheGrayGhost

Gladiator blitzes

Edit: even with speed equalized I struggle to see what exactly Hulk can hope to achieve against someone who is only dazed from containing a solar system level explosion and who gets back up from BB whispering in his ear among other things

He is not going to be nearly angry enough before Glads KOs him

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Kallark could react and fight within nanoseconds,Bruce doesn't stand a chance here

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Gladiator wins this easily 10/10

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@pooty: Hulk was weakened when he fought Gladiator.

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Gladiator blitzes

Edit: even with speed equalized I struggle to see what exactly Hulk can hope to achieve against someone who is only dazed from containing a solar system level explosion and who gets back up from BB whispering in his ear among other things

He is not going to be nearly angry enough before Glads KOs him

Gladiator's been damaged by a lot less than solar system level force and I can't honestly think of any feats from Black Bolt's voice that would suggest a whisper would be more powerful than Hulk's punches and in fact Kallark was more damaged up Hulk's clap in their fight than he was Black Bolt's voice.

Kallark is physically outclassed but can win by speed.

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#30  Edited By MaZeRaIII

Gladiator.

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I think Gladiator should take he majority

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#34  Edited By thedailybagel  Moderator

If it's doc green then kallark wins. Otherwise hulk wins.

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Hulk is stronger and more durable

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#36  Edited By termiteone4ever

Interesting :)

I dont see Hulk hitting any body moving at the speed of Light. Hulk has no such feat. Hulk / arms/ movement cant even move that fast.

Have you seen any thread WBH/HULk/ any Hulk vs Spectrum ? Never hear any fan boy claiming Hulk can tag her.

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@pooty: According to what exactly?

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@pooty: According to what exactly?

@tyger said:

Gladiator lost to Hulk because of a weakness to certain combinations of radiation. It was never really explained what kind of radiation does it, but apparently it's present in Marvel Earth human nuclear reactors.

I just reread the scan. Glads was NOT weakened until he got hurt by his own beams. The nuclear reactor didn't hurt him until Hulk through him inside it. My mistake

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These fights always amuse me. Total disregard it already happened in comics, Hulk won. Hulk is even stronger, so he wins again.

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@green_skaar: These fights always amuse me. Total disregard it already happened in comics.

Just because a comic has a certain outcome does not mean it will happen that way on CV. Personally, I'm not disregarding the fight. Just not using that fight as the sole basis for my decision. I HOPE most Viners base their decisions on multiple feats. Not just one.

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Gladiator has been tagged by everyone from street level characters like Wolverine, Gambit to mid tiers like Colossus, Thing to powerhouses like Hulk and Thor and many many more. No special speed is needed to tag Kallark his entire combat speed feat comes from a single decades old scan of him reacting in nano second. Hulk already beat Gladiator while weakened, since then not only does he not not have the same weakness but in 2006 he gained a permanent power up.

Gladiator loses again.

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@pooty: Precisely my point. The only reason why Hulk was getting his insides melted like that was because he was weakened, not only Hulk also fought physically against him, but the fact he also reacted to his speed when he attempted to BFR him at highly hypersonic speeds into orbit. Hulk generated a plan and thunderclapped him before he ran out of air and the fact Gladiator was almost instantly into orbit means he was going insanely fast. In fact, Gladiator's best combat speed is within nano-seconds and it is so damn inconsistent we shouldn't take such instance as a way to measure Gladiator's speed as a whole. Hell, even Eric Masterson managed to get a hold at him when he was using his speed, why couldn't Hulk do the same if he already did on a higher degree. Sure Gladiator is fast, but he isn't Superman fast as far as his reactions go and he should lose against Hulk because Hulk already beat him and he has become exponentially stronger and overall more powerful after 2006 to the point he shrugs off Thanos punches without harm.

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@pooty said:

@green_skaar: These fights always amuse me. Total disregard it already happened in comics.

Just because a comic has a certain outcome does not mean it will happen that way on CV. Personally, I'm not disregarding the fight. Just not using that fight as the sole basis for my decision. I HOPE most Viners base their decisions on multiple feats. Not just one.

I base my decisions on battle feats primarily, while lots of Viners base them off environmental/non-battle feats.

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Hulk already beat him.

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#48  Edited By jashro44

@pooty: Precisely my point. The only reason why Hulk was getting his insides melted like that was because he was weakened, not only Hulk also fought physically against him, but the fact he also reacted to his speed when he attempted to BFR him at highly hypersonic speeds into orbit. Hulk generated a plan and thunderclapped him before he ran out of air and the fact Gladiator was almost instantly into orbit means he was going insanely fast. In fact, Gladiator's best combat speed is within nano-seconds and it is so damn inconsistent we shouldn't take such instance as a way to measure Gladiator's speed as a whole. Hell, even Eric Masterson managed to get a hold at him when he was using his speed, why couldn't Hulk do the same if he already did on a higher degree. Sure Gladiator is fast, but he isn't Superman fast as far as his reactions go and he should lose against Hulk because Hulk already beat him and he has become exponentially stronger and overall more powerful after 2006 to the point he shrugs off Thanos punches without harm.

When hulk thunder clapped gladiator hulk stated he had 3 seconds to perform that thunder clap. I would exactly call that proof hulk can counter gladiators speed since gladiator was carrying him and it took him a few seconds to leave the atmosphere:

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As for speed Gladiator does have other combat speed feats that put him leagues beyond hulk. Like the time Reed designed a machine which left the world frozen in time and gladiator was able to perceive them with his speed alone. He even had a fight with thor in this arc who was under the same amp as Reed and co, using his own speed:

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Not to mention the marvel handbook has noted that gladiator can actually run at faster than light speeds IIRC. This would mean that gladiator is capable of moving his limbs at those speeds, and his reactions would have to be within that ball park otherwise he would end up tripping over his own feet.

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So there should be enough evidence gladiator is way faster than hulk. Concerning Masterson, there is no indication that gladiator was going max speed and masterson actually took the hit and than while gladiator was carrying him he wrapped his arm around gladiators head and slammed him into the ground. I wouldn't say that is reacting either.

I maintain if gladiator uses his speed he should win. If he is operating at the level of speed where the world around him is frozen in time than there isn't much hulk can do to tag him. It just depends if he bothers to use it.

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@tifalockhart: It's super weird. Sometimes, Grey Hulk is able to dodge Wolverine's blows with ease. Savage Hulk does too. But in other times, Wolverine is able to get the ''upper hand''. Anyway, the last time they fought before Secret Wars, Hulk pwned Thing and Logan at the same time.

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Feat-wise, Gladiator, in actuality, Hulk.