"He had a hard enough time with Thor. And he lost. No way he beat the Hulk."
He has much more powers than the Hulk and usually whoever fights Hulk doesn't use his whole powers. Hulk wouldn't have a chance against Thor if he was going all out. As for Gilgamesh he can fly, teleport, use telekinisis to augment his alredy great strength, he is almost immortal, he can project cosmic blasts and he is said to create illusions. This is too much for Hulk in my opinion...
Check these books out. He is strong but not as strong as Thor. If you can't be Thor with strength, you can't coe close to the Hulk. His Eternal powers make him more of a threat than others.
"He had a hard enough time with Thor. And he lost. No way he beat the Hulk."
He has much more powers than the Hulk and usually whoever fights Hulk doesn't use his whole powers. Hulk wouldn't have a chance against Thor if he was going all out. As for Gilgamesh he can fly, teleport, use telekinisis to augment his alredy great strength, he is almost immortal, he can project cosmic blasts and he is said to create illusions. This is too much for Hulk in my opinion..."
There has been two occassions when Thor didn't hold back and was unable to beat the Hulk. One was in Hulk #321 I believe when he took on the entire Avergers team (West and East). The other is in a later Hulk book when he was Professor Hulk and was pretending to Maestro. Thor even put on his belt of power and went into the warrior madness. Neither event ended with the Hulks defeat.
"Check these books out. He is strong but not as strong as Thor. If you can't be Thor with strength, you can't coe close to the Hulk. His Eternal powers make him more of a threat than others.
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I agree that he can't win by strength alone but in a realistic fight and not one written based on Hulks popularity the combination of his powers should give him the win
His Eternal powers are great but they don't make him the Sentry or Black Bolt. Hercules was just shown dealing with the Eternal Ikarris and held his own with just strength. And against Ajak as well. It would take a greater power than Hulk to defeat him and the Eternals natural power isn't it.
"His Eternal powers are great but they don't make him the Sentry or Black Bolt. Hercules was just shown dealing with the Eternal Ikarris and held his own with just strength. And against Ajak as well. It would take a greater power than Hulk to defeat him and the Eternals natural power isn't it."
Yes but was Ikaris using all of his powers against Hercules? Plus how can Hulk tag him if he is flying and blasting him with cosmic energy while he creates Illusion decoys? The thing is that sometimes the Eternals (and many characters) are not written with all their powers. For example Hulk should have never been able to beat Thor.
Eternals conventional powers are: Control over the atoms of there body making them able to heal form most injuries. Projection of cosmic energy in the form of heat, light,or concussive force. Teleportation. Flight through levitation. And rearrange the molecular structure of objects. With Gilgamesh clas 100 strength, it makes him more powerful than any other Eternal (save for their leader). But nothing he is coming with is new to the Hulk. he has fought beings with greater power in those catagories and won. Putting them all in one person wouldn't change anything. A team with those powers may have a better chance. Sounds like the X-men and what happened to them recently.
"His Eternal powers are great but they don't make him the Sentry or Black Bolt. Hercules was just shown dealing with the Eternal Ikarris and held his own with just strength. And against Ajak as well. It would take a greater power than Hulk to defeat him and the Eternals natural power isn't it."
Yes but was Ikaris using all of his powers against Hercules? Plus how can Hulk tag him if he is flying and blasting him with cosmic energy while he creates Illusion decoys? The thing is that sometimes the Eternals (and many characters) are not written with all their powers. For example Hulk should have never been able to beat Thor."
Why shouldn't be able to beat Thor? His strength is greater. He's more durable and heals quicker. He has withstood greater forms of energy than Thor could create with the weather. Maybe i'm mising something. i'm really open to being wrong. i'm no fanboy of the Hulk.
"Eternals conventional powers are: Control over the atoms of there body making them able to heal form most injuries. Projection of cosmic energy in the form of heat, light,or concussive force. Teleportation. Flight through levitation. And rearrange the molecular structure of objects. With Gilgamesh clas 100 strength, it makes him more powerful than any other Eternal (save for their leader). But nothing he is coming with is new to the Hulk. he has fought beings with greater power in those catagories and won. Putting them all in one person wouldn't change anything. A team with those powers may have a better chance. Sounds like the X-men and what happened to them recently."
I don't remember a fight of Hulk beating someone with these powers and that degree. Other than bad writing Hulk has no chance against someone with comparable strength and durability plus flight, teleportation, illusions and cosmic blasts. Hulk should not be able to beat a low level herald if he uses all he's got
"Eternals conventional powers are: Control over the atoms of there body making them able to heal form most injuries. Projection of cosmic energy in the form of heat, light,or concussive force. Teleportation. Flight through levitation. And rearrange the molecular structure of objects. With Gilgamesh clas 100 strength, it makes him more powerful than any other Eternal (save for their leader). But nothing he is coming with is new to the Hulk. he has fought beings with greater power in those catagories and won. Putting them all in one person wouldn't change anything. A team with those powers may have a better chance. Sounds like the X-men and what happened to them recently."
I don't remember a fight of Hulk beating someone with these powers and that degree. Other than bad writing Hulk has no chance against someone with comparable strength and durability plus flight, teleportation, illusions and cosmic blasts. Hulk should not be able to beat a low level herald if he uses all he's got"
His powers are Cyclops, Colossus, Nightcrawler, Jean Grey. Now what;s there not to beat as someone with unlimited strength and a healing factor greater than Wolverines? Only people who can effect his power directly (like Silver Surfer) can hope to beat him.
Any prove about this? His upper limits regarding strength are not shown. I can accept that Hulk can get Stronger but that's the only attribute he outclasses him. Hulk can't fly, doesn't have energy projection, cannot teleport or cast illusions.
Any prove about this? His upper limits regarding strength are not shown. I can accept that Hulk can get Stronger but that's the only attribute he outclasses him. Hulk can't fly, doesn't have energy projection, cannot teleport or cast illusions."
He's not as strong as Thor,Hercules,Juggernaut,or Hulk.He's barely class 100.
Hulk's strength works in more ways than just punching and lifting. Hulk can also move extremely fast (either 300 or 500 mph), and can jump into orbit, along with being able to leap at least 20 miles laterally (which I think is a bit low compared to what I've seen). Hulk has also withstood exposure to extreme amounts of energy. If we're going to use the hulk in the picture, i.e. WWH, then he's survived ground zero of a warp core detonation, along with the full force of Black Bolt's voice, and a direct assault from Sentry. Hulk weighs a LOT, and I don't think lifting him with telekinesis is a viable option for fighting him. Hulk has recovered from having his internal organs eaten out of him fully in 17 minutes. Hulk can survive in space. I don't see him losing here.
Yes but was Ikaris using all of his powers against Hercules? Plus how can Hulk tag him if he is flying and blasting him with cosmic energy while he creates Illusion decoys? The thing is that sometimes the Eternals (and many characters) are not written with all their powers. For example Hulk should have never been able to beat Thor."
I have not seen Gilgamesh performing those three stunts simultaneously before. It takes a lot of mental focus to create and control illusionary decoys and whilst he is performing more offensive actions, I don't think he would have the required concentration to do the illusions as well.
Yes but was Ikaris using all of his powers against Hercules? Plus how can Hulk tag him if he is flying and blasting him with cosmic energy while he creates Illusion decoys? The thing is that sometimes the Eternals (and many characters) are not written with all their powers. For example Hulk should have never been able to beat Thor."
I have not seen Gilgamesh performing those three stunts simultaneously before. It takes a lot of mental focus to create and control illusionary decoys and whilst he is performing more offensive actions, I don't think he would have the required concentration to do the illusions as well. "
That could be true. Although he has the potential to win. I guess it depends on the writer
"Well I brought this thread back only to state that Gil has already taken most of the Eternals out. I don't see why Hulk will have much better chances."
That feat was done by him with strength alone. If the Hulk is stronger and more durable. why wouldn't he be able to do the same?
"The Hulk should be able to beat Gilgamesh...it would be a good fight though "
The Hulk would be written to win only because he sells more. All of you people just add the powers. Gilgamesh is faster, he can use telekinisis to amp his strngth he has shown great energy projection in the Avengers comics and he can teleport. I don't know about tp. As for durability I believe Hulk is more durable but only by a little amount. Comparing him to Thor means nothing. Thor should be able to beat hulk in a heartbeat due to his abilities though he still loses because they write him to be only a brawler. Gil with his millenia of experience should win
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