Well sentry stalemated hulk (got reverted back for some strange reason), BM won't do that and he knocked sentry into orbit during their fight. In that fight sentry wasn't holding back while BM was, explaining the stalemate... Plus BM has the reflexes not to allow Hulk to touch him and his antimatter energy have taken down King Hyperion...
@The Sadhu: when hulk fought sentry..sentry went down first so to me that means he lost against the hulk and if i remember after hulk used all his power on sentry and reverted didnt he turn rite back into the hulk a little bit after
Well sentry stalemated hulk (got reverted back for some strange reason), BM won't do that and he knocked sentry into orbit during their fight. In that fight sentry wasn't holding back while BM was, explaining the stalemate...
But didn't both Blue Marvel and Sentry collapse after that fight (& BM was worse off if I remember correctly)? Your theory doesn't wash.
@DocJude:@mrtrickster: yes but it wasn't just Sentry vs BM it was BM vs EVERYBODY. BM knocked Sentry into orbit in a head to head battle. BM turned his attention to the other 5 Avengers and Sentry snuck him. Nevertheless, BM will not revert to a weaker form which Hulk has been seen to do. Add that to his speed and energy attacks and it give BM an advantage.
" WWHulk has this Can't see BM giving a much better fight than Sentry to win it "
Sentry is stupid. He should use his speed and energy projection on WWHulk. IMO WWHulk giving Sentry such a fight is pure PIS. Blue Marvel used Anti-matter energy on King Hyperion when he was loosing. He can do the same here. "
Antimatter energy will do nothing to Gamma radiation and the energy will just glaze off of Hulk's skin.
" WWHulk has this Can't see BM giving a much better fight than Sentry to win it "
Sentry is stupid. He should use his speed and energy projection on WWHulk. IMO WWHulk giving Sentry such a fight is pure PIS. Blue Marvel used Anti-matter energy on King Hyperion when he was loosing. He can do the same here. "
Antimatter energy will do nothing to Gamma radiation and the energy will just glaze off of Hulk's skin. "
I think you're wrong there. Matter is matter, I don't care what kind of Gamma radiation isn't mutated by. There WILL be a reaction (as there has to be) so it'll be up to Hulk's body to deal with the damage (which I'm sure it will do a good job, but there will still be damage)
Well sentry stalemated hulk (got reverted back for some strange reason), BM won't do that and he knocked sentry into orbit during their fight. In that fight sentry wasn't holding back while BM was, explaining the stalemate...
But didn't both Blue Marvel and Sentry collapse after that fight (& BM was worse off if I remember correctly)? Your theory doesn't wash. "
I know thats why i said stalemate, also throughout the battle it was clear sentry wasn't holding back while Adam was (or at least until he knocked sentry out of orbit). In sentry's fight with WWH he was reverted back to bob, that won't happen to Adam since he didn't take some serum. I see him taking Hulk down, plus like i said he has the reaction time not to allow hulk to hit him and can BFR hulk like he did with Sentry...
" WWHulk has this Can't see BM giving a much better fight than Sentry to win it "
Sentry is stupid. He should use his speed and energy projection on WWHulk. IMO WWHulk giving Sentry such a fight is pure PIS. Blue Marvel used Anti-matter energy on King Hyperion when he was loosing. He can do the same here. "
A lesser Hulk fought a being using anti-matter energy in his assualt before
" WWHulk has this Can't see BM giving a much better fight than Sentry to win it "
Sentry is stupid. He should use his speed and energy projection on WWHulk. IMO WWHulk giving Sentry such a fight is pure PIS. Blue Marvel used Anti-matter energy on King Hyperion when he was loosing. He can do the same here. "
And your right If Sentry would have used his speed as he did in the beginning of the battle He would have given a Hulk a even greater problem But that just would have made Worldbreaker show up sooner And people forget that the Hulk has fought fast opponents and have tactics to deal with them
" WWHulk has this Can't see BM giving a much better fight than Sentry to win it "
Sentry is stupid. He should use his speed and energy projection on WWHulk. IMO WWHulk giving Sentry such a fight is pure PIS. Blue Marvel used Anti-matter energy on King Hyperion when he was loosing. He can do the same here. "
And your right If Sentry would have used his speed as he did in the beginning of the battle He would have given a Hulk a even greater problem But that just would have made Worldbreaker show up sooner And people forget that the Hulk has fought fast opponents and have tactics to deal with them "
There is no tactic against Speedblitz. Also Worldbreaker wasn't an effect of Sentry's battle with WWHulk.
" WWHulk has this Can't see BM giving a much better fight than Sentry to win it "
Sentry is stupid. He should use his speed and energy projection on WWHulk. IMO WWHulk giving Sentry such a fight is pure PIS. Blue Marvel used Anti-matter energy on King Hyperion when he was loosing. He can do the same here. "
And your right If Sentry would have used his speed as he did in the beginning of the battle He would have given a Hulk a even greater problem But that just would have made Worldbreaker show up sooner And people forget that the Hulk has fought fast opponents and have tactics to deal with them "
There is no tactic against Speedblitz. Also Worldbreaker wasn't an effect of Sentry's battle with WWHulk. "
You are acting as a speedblitz is some unbeatable tactic What good is speed when your opponent is resistant to the damage you can cause Or heals instantly from it
And Worldbreaker was the effect of enraging WWHulk even further
""You are acting as a speedblitz is some unbeatable tactic (1) What good is speed when your opponent is resistant to the damage you can cause Or heals instantly from it (2) And Worldbreaker was the effect of enraging WWHulk even further (3)"
1.Because it is unbeatable tactic. What can You do if don't even know what hit You? What can You do when your every move can be easily dodged? 2.Normally it will be stalemate. But here, Blue Marvel can hurt WWHulk as Sentry did. And Blue Marvel has better strength feats than Sentry and for me in strength: Worldbreaker > Blue Marvel > WWHulk. 3.No, Worldbreaker came to live when Bruce heared that Miek was responsible for explosion on Sakaar, not Iluminati.
""You are acting as a speedblitz is some unbeatable tactic (1) What good is speed when your opponent is resistant to the damage you can cause Or heals instantly from it (2) And Worldbreaker was the effect of enraging WWHulk even further (3)"
1.Because it is unbeatable tactic. What can You do if don't even know what hit You? What can You do when your every move can be easily dodged? 2.Normally it will be stalemate. But here, Blue Marvel can hurt WWHulk as Sentry did. And Blue Marvel has better strength feats than Sentry and for me in strength: Worldbreaker > Blue Marvel > WWHulk. 3.No, Worldbreaker came to live when Bruce heared that Miek was responsible for explosion on Sakaar, not Iluminati. "
You can create attacks that can't be avoided As long as they are in the vacinity And hitting the Hulk with power that can't ko him or kill him would just enrage him more
And Miek did with words what further battle would have done Enraged him further Sentry was doing it as well That's where the Hulk got the power to defeat him
" You can create attacks that can't be avoided As long as they are in the vacinity (1) And hitting the Hulk with power that can't ko him or kill him would just enrage him more (2) And Miek did with words what further battle would have done Enraged him further Sentry was doing it as well That's where the Hulk got the power to defeat him (3)"
1.If someone is too fast to be touched, You can't avoid his attacks or punch him. Sentry didn't use his speed becasue it was WWHulk big time. 2.No, he will feel this (BM's) punch. Blue Marvel also - accroding to Watcher - is a moon buster. WWHulk don't have feats in this level. And he don't have feats that proves he can take BM's punches like nothing. He will feel them. 3.No, he didn't. WWHulk transformed into Banner in his fight with Sentry. This proves that even WWHulk can overpowered.
2.No, he will feel this (BM's) punch. Blue Marvel also - accroding to Watcher - is a moon buster. WWHulk don't have feats in this level. And he don't have feats that proves he can take BM's punches like nothing. He will feel them. 3.No, he didn't. WWHulk transformed into Banner in his fight with Sentry. This proves that even WWHulk can overpowered. "
WWH proved capable of exchanging punches over a prolonged battle with the Sentry who in turn proved capable of taking the best Blue Marvel could dish out and also then proved capable of delivering an attack that put him down for the count.
2.No, he will feel this (BM's) punch. Blue Marvel also - accroding to Watcher - is a moon buster. WWHulk don't have feats in this level. And he don't have feats that proves he can take BM's punches like nothing. He will feel them. 3.No, he didn't. WWHulk transformed into Banner in his fight with Sentry. This proves that even WWHulk can overpowered. "
WWH proved capable of exchanging punches over a prolonged battle with the Sentry who in turn proved capable of taking the best Blue Marvel could dish out and also then proved capable of delivering an attack that put him down for the count. "
Sentry didn't use such a big one-shot on WWHulk as he did on BM. Also, Sentry's strength wasn't confirmed as a moon buster by any reliable character as Watcher to my knowledge. @Static Shock said:
" @czarny_samael said:
"Sentry didn't use his speed becasue it was WWHulk big time.
Sentry didn't use his speed? Not that it matters anyway, since Blue Marvel has never shown to blitz anyone yet. No reason to think he would do it here. "
1.Sentry was only using flying speed and I doubt that it was his best speed. 2.Blue Marvel should be able to it better. Sentry too if he will use his full speed. But ok, in character Blue Marvel would rather use his strength and then anti-matter energy to win this battle.
@czarny_samael: what do u mean only flying speed? wouldnt he be able to fly faster then he runs..seems like your sayin the hulk is slow his reflexes seem pretty high
@the creator: Sentry didn't take the best of BM. Sentry had help. in the few panels where it was just Sentry vs BM, BM damn near knocked him out while knocking him into orbit. BM still had enough energy to engage the rest of the avengers. Sentry attacked BM while he was occupied with other avengers. nevertheless, if WWH and BM battle like WWH did with Sentry, what happens when Hulk turns into Puny Banner?
" @czarny_samael: what do u mean only flying speed? wouldnt he be able to fly faster then he runs..seems like your sayin the hulk is slow his reflexes seem pretty high "
I mean that they can throw punches that he won't be able to reflect and dodge his punches. Compare to Blue Marvel and Sentry he is slow.
2.No, he will feel this (BM's) punch. Blue Marvel also - accroding to Watcher - is a moon buster. WWHulk don't have feats in this level. And he don't have feats that proves he can take BM's punches like nothing. He will feel them. 3.No, he didn't. WWHulk transformed into Banner in his fight with Sentry. This proves that even WWHulk can overpowered. "
WWH proved capable of exchanging punches over a prolonged battle with the Sentry who in turn proved capable of taking the best Blue Marvel could dish out and also then proved capable of delivering an attack that put him down for the count. "
Don't see how that matters. Blue Marvel was taken out by Sentry when, Blue Marvel was fighting multiple other Avengers, including, but not limited to: Iron Man, Ares, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk and more, when Blue Marvel was holding back, and when Sentry dive bombed him from behind. Sentry, and the rest of the Avengers were decimated by Anti-man, a being that, when Blue Marvel when full out(after his wife was killed) destroyed Anti-man in a matter of a few panels. That fight does not prove Sentry is greater than Blue Marvel, so therefore does not prove WWHulk is greater than Blue Marvel.
2.No, he will feel this (BM's) punch. Blue Marvel also - accroding to Watcher - is a moon buster. WWHulk don't have feats in this level. And he don't have feats that proves he can take BM's punches like nothing. He will feel them. 3.No, he didn't. WWHulk transformed into Banner in his fight with Sentry. This proves that even WWHulk can overpowered. "
WWH proved capable of exchanging punches over a prolonged battle with the Sentry who in turn proved capable of taking the best Blue Marvel could dish out and also then proved capable of delivering an attack that put him down for the count. "
Don't see how that matters. Blue Marvel was taken out by Sentry when, Blue Marvel was fighting multiple other Avengers, including, but not limited to: Iron Man, Ares, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk and more, when Blue Marvel was holding back, and when Sentry dive bombed him from behind. Sentry, and the rest of the Avengers were decimated by Anti-man, a being that, when Blue Marvel when full out(after his wife was killed) destroyed Anti-man in a matter of a few panels. That fight does not prove Sentry is greater than Blue Marvel, so therefore does not prove WWHulk is greater than Blue Marvel. Mr.J "
Wait a minute..since when was She-Hulk there? Did I miss something?
2.No, he will feel this (BM's) punch. Blue Marvel also - accroding to Watcher - is a moon buster. WWHulk don't have feats in this level. And he don't have feats that proves he can take BM's punches like nothing. He will feel them. 3.No, he didn't. WWHulk transformed into Banner in his fight with Sentry. This proves that even WWHulk can overpowered. "
WWH proved capable of exchanging punches over a prolonged battle with the Sentry who in turn proved capable of taking the best Blue Marvel could dish out and also then proved capable of delivering an attack that put him down for the count. "
Don't see how that matters. Blue Marvel was taken out by Sentry when, Blue Marvel was fighting multiple other Avengers, including, but not limited to: Iron Man, Ares, Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk and more, when Blue Marvel was holding back, and when Sentry dive bombed him from behind. Sentry, and the rest of the Avengers were decimated by Anti-man, a being that, when Blue Marvel when full out(after his wife was killed) destroyed Anti-man in a matter of a few panels. That fight does not prove Sentry is greater than Blue Marvel, so therefore does not prove WWHulk is greater than Blue Marvel. Mr.J "
Wait a minute..since when was She-Hulk there? Did I miss something? "
Sorry, my mistake. She was fighting for the Avengers at the end, but wasn't involved in the fight between Blue Marvel and the Avengers, but still. Blue Marvel was taken out by Sentry, but when he was fighting Iron Man, Ares, Ms. Marvel, and Wonder Man all at the same time. And was clearly holding back, because not too long after that, when he finally let loose he completely stomped Anti-Man, who was destroying all the Avengers, including Sentry.
I'm not saying who wins here ,blue marvel has speed advantage true, but i never seen blue marvel speed blitze anybody whether he fought with avengers or hyperion. it's likely blue marvel would brawl it out with hulk.
@pooty
said:
" @DocJude:@mrtrickster: yes but it wasn't just Sentry vs BM it was BM vs EVERYBODY. BM knocked Sentry into orbit in a head to head battle. BM turned his attention to the other 5 Avengers and Sentry snuck him. Nevertheless, BM will not revert to a weaker form which Hulk has been seen to do. Add that to his speed and energy attacks and it give BM an advantage. "
so? wwhulk fought dr strange iron man and crap load of people before sentry, doesn't matter since blue marvel vs sentry is the major, iron man, ares count really little for him. sentry snuck on him true but that still prove sentry is capable of knock him down.
" I'm not saying who wins here ,blue marvel has speed advantage true, but i never seen blue marvel speed blitze anybody whether he fought with avengers or hyperion. it's likely blue marvel would brawl it out with hulk.
@pooty
said:
" @DocJude:@mrtrickster: yes but it wasn't just Sentry vs BM it was BM vs EVERYBODY. BM knocked Sentry into orbit in a head to head battle. BM turned his attention to the other 5 Avengers and Sentry snuck him. Nevertheless, BM will not revert to a weaker form which Hulk has been seen to do. Add that to his speed and energy attacks and it give BM an advantage. "
so? wwhulk fought dr strange iron man and crap load of people before sentry, doesn't matter since blue marvel vs sentry is the major, iron man, ares count really little for him. sentry snuck on him true but that still prove sentry is capable of knock him down. "
Blue Marvel was holding back in that fight. In the very same issue, he went all out(after his wife was killed) against Anti-man and beat him in just a few panels. The same Anti-man, who schooled the Avengers easily, including Sentry.
" I'm not saying who wins here ,blue marvel has speed advantage true, but i never seen blue marvel speed blitze anybody whether he fought with avengers or hyperion. it's likely blue marvel would brawl it out with hulk.
@pooty
said:
" @DocJude:@mrtrickster: yes but it wasn't just Sentry vs BM it was BM vs EVERYBODY. BM knocked Sentry into orbit in a head to head battle. BM turned his attention to the other 5 Avengers and Sentry snuck him. Nevertheless, BM will not revert to a weaker form which Hulk has been seen to do. Add that to his speed and energy attacks and it give BM an advantage. "
so? wwhulk fought dr strange iron man and crap load of people before sentry, doesn't matter since blue marvel vs sentry is the major, iron man, ares count really little for him. sentry snuck on him true but that still prove sentry is capable of knock him down. "
Blue Marvel was holding back in that fight. In the very same issue, he went all out(after his wife was killed) against Anti-man and beat him in just a few panels. The same Anti-man, who schooled the Avengers easily, including Sentry. Mr.J "
anti-man punched sentry for one panel, just because sentry didn't have a chance to beat anti-man doesn't mean he can't. and i could say sentry was holding back fighting blue marvel too.
@mrtrickster: Yes Hulk did fight alot of people before Sentry. But the Hulk gets STRONGER as he goes. So the Hulk had time to build up anger and strength, whereas BM doesn't get stronger as he goes. And yes Sentry can knock BM down just as he did Hulk. But knocking down does not equate winning. But eventually the Hulk will expend all his energy and become Banner. Match over after that.
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