Hulk (MCU) vs Lord Voldemort (Harry Potter films)

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The huge green monster Hulk is full of rage and trying to attack Lord Voldemort. who is going to win this battle.

Bloodlusted Match.

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Voldemort.

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Voldemort.

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i mean hulk has regen and voldemort the most he can do is make hulk mad, but he still has the 7 things to protect himself.HULK prob will get pissed over and over again like his regen keeps him from dying.Does the spell harry potter survived kill anymore?if that i think voldemort wins

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even Ward could beat Voldemort

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Voldemort, quite easily

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Instant death spell makes this a pointless spite match.

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@mrtrey: dont you have to aim the spell cuz hulk can jump high and dodge but considering he is a big he will get hit

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Has he used a spell on someone like the Hulk before?

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Don't think The Killing Curse would do much on Hulk,but we don't know for sure.

I'll still go with Hulk.

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@kevd4wg said:

even Ward could beat Voldemort

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@nitelite said:

Don't think The Killing Curse would do much on Hulk,but we don't know for sure.

I'll still go with Hulk.

He still has 0 hax resistance feats

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#13  Edited By Shinne

Voldemort. Even without the killing curse, other spells such as crucio, imperio and apparition should be sufficient enough for him to win. Plus, he moved a 20 feet tall giant corpse with his telekinesis, so he could probably just lift Hulk up in the air and there would be nothing Hulk can do about it.

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@davidharewood14: Has Voldemort ever used Crucio,Avada Kedavra of any of his spells on an opponent like Hulk?

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@lan_fan: Wouldn't Apparition count as tactical retreat?

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@nitelite: Death Eaters use apparition as flight.

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#17  Edited By Shinne

Voldemort can also just transform into dusts and possess Hulk like he did against Harry. That's a GG... So many ways for him to win.

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#18  Edited By ANTHP2000

@kevd4wg said:

even Ward could beat Voldemort

Fair point, but Ward could also beat the Hulk.

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With a huge green titan in front of him, Voldemort isn't going to mess around. He uses AK right off the bat, and MCU Hulk had shown zero resistance to insta death magic. He dies.

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Either the curse works or Hulk's durability is superior to "the power of love" that shielded Harry from Avada Kedavra and Tom makes his best impression of a pancake.

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Voldemort should win if he's on guard.

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Noseless younger ebony maw wins if he is not jobbing

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Voldemort Stomps. The killing curse ends you, no matter what. And unless you have a resistance to magic you die.

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Voldemort one shots.

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Nothing Hulk can do here. Voldy in pretty much a mismatch.

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#26 morpheus_  Moderator

Voldemort Stomps. The killing curse ends you, no matter what. And unless you have a resistance to magic you die.

Galactus doesn't have a resistance to magic, at least not expressly so. Does Tom kill him with Avada Kedavra? I mean, it "ends you, no matter what," right?

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Voldemort clearly have the advantage in versatility. Hulk have the advantage in strength and durability. Speed I am not so sure. Hulk have some amazing speed, but Voldemort is really fast too.

Voldemort is one of the only 2 characters in Harry Potter that have unasisted flight.

This will go down to 1 thing, and one thing only, will Voldemort be able to kill Hulk with Avada Kedavra. Or will Hulk's durability and healing factor make the killing curse useless.

I am split on this fight. Calling stalemate for now.

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@nitelite said:

@davidharewood14: Has Voldemort ever used Crucio,Avada Kedavra of any of his spells on an opponent like Hulk?

Crucio rather bypasses your stats. Those are called haxes.

In Supergirl series non jobbing Kara and non jobbing J'onn are extremely powerful but they still has some weaknesses like specific frequency sounds or Parasite's life absorbtion etc.

Not lowballing but Hulk has 0 feats against such haxes which are negating physical laws. Ok Hagrid was resistant a little to stunning attacks or others but Giants are born with magic blood. Same with dragons. Just crucio , avadakedavra, legilimens, imperio ( Hulk tp resistance is nothing ) or oblivate are enough

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Stalemate.

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#30  Edited By Shinne

@morpheus_: Galactus doesn't have any resistance to magic? I doubt it. Plus, the closest thing we know about how Avada Kedavra works is when Dumbledore described what happened to Voldemort. It implies soul attack, which I'm sure Galactus could handle. I think someone said Voldemort described it as having his soul ripped apart as well. However, it's stated many times that it doesn't do ANY damage to the victim's body (neither does crucio), which is why I think physical durability or healing factor should be useless here. That one time Barty Crouch Jr. said if Avada Kedavra was done imperfectly, it would just cause some nosebleeding, but that was never the case with a perfectly casted killing curse.

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#31  Edited By Shinne

@davidharewood14: Magical creatures like giant and dragons were stated to have special resistance to magic. I don't think that's due to his physical stats.

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@morpheus_: Galactus doesn't have any resistance to magic? I doubt it. Plus, the closest thing we know about how Avada Kedavra works is when Dumbledore described what happened to Voldemort. It implies soul attack, which I'm sure Galactus could handle. I think someone said Voldemort described it as having his soul ripped apart as well. However, it's stated many times that it doesn't do ANY damage to the victim's body (neither does crucio), which is why I think physical durability or healing factor should be useless here. That one time Barty Crouch Jr. said if Avada Kedavra was done imperfectly, it would just cause some nosebleeding, but that was never the case with a perfectly casted killing curse.

I don't want you to doubt, I'm openly telling you that he has been affected by magic before (Doctor Strange made him experience the pain of all the worlds he has consumed during a fight with the Avengers). Adam Warlock has mentioned Galactus does not have an exact equivalent to a soul but magic still works on him, it simply needs something sufficiently potent. Galactus was an extreme example to an equally extreme statement. "If someone has no magic resistance, the killing curse ends you, no matter what."

So can Voldemort kill 616 Hulk? Silver Surfer? Thor? Thanos? Where do limitations begin and where do they end? That's all I ask.

It's an extrapolation from someone describing the curse in a flowery way (having one's soul ripped apart) to actual soul manipulation/destruction, is it not? Obviously the person describing it has not experienced the curse themselves to be able to ascertain that.

In short, I'm not at all disregarding the notion that Hulk gets hit by the curse and dies. I am simply skeptical because most of the characters I brought up earlier also don't have a direct defense to "soul destruction" if that is what Avada Kedavra is meant to be, beyond their inherent durability.

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AVADA KADAVRA!

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@morpheus_: Yes, unless your durability is too high. Galactus is too powerful for most attacks to harm him lol.

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@morpheus_:

Galactus was an extreme example to an equally extreme statement. "If someone has no magic resistance, the killing curse ends you, no matter what."

That's not what we meant. Magical creatures in Harry Potter like giants and dragons have more resistance against magic than humans do. Sure they can still be affected if the magic is potent enough, but it's harder. We're talking about any type of resistance, not complete immunity.

It's an extrapolation from someone describing the curse in a flowery way (having one's soul ripped apart) to actual soul manipulation/destruction, is it not? Obviously the person describing it has not experienced the curse themselves to be able to ascertain that.

Voldemort survived his own backfiring killing curse due to his horcruxes (he split his soul and put them into objects or other living beings). I guess his description is valid, but I can't seem to find the quote.

Dumbledore's word on this also has proof, because when Voldemort's soul was blasted from his body, it refused to die (due to the horcrux), so it latched itself into Harry Potter. Those stuffs did happen. Plus, it's Dumbledore, he's always right.

When Voldemort casted his 4th killing curse against Harry, he ONLY killed the part of his own soul inside Harry without affecting any other thing. I guess that's also a solid evidence that it only affects the soul.

I am simply skeptical because most of the characters I brought up earlier also don't have a direct defense to "soul destruction" if that is what Avada Kedavra is meant to be, beyond their inherent durability.

I'm leaning towards soul removal rather than destruction, because you can still go to afterlife or become a ghost after getting killed by killing curse. Any soul manipulation defense should be sufficient enough to survive this, since it has only affected featless souls.

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#36  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator

@lan_fan:

I haven't watched the films since last year (and I have not yet watched Crimes of Grindelwald), but do you roughly recall where/when that was stated? This is strictly film Voldemort and magical beasts being exactly that should not make them immune or resistant on principle.

Voldemort survived his own backfiring killing curse due to his horcruxes (he split his soul and put them into objects or other living beings). I guess his description is valid, but I can't seem to find the quote.

That is very true, and we do know that is achieved via murder - but murder splits and tears the soul of the perpetrator. We don't necessarily know if that also applies to the victim. I do agree there is the potential for soul manipulation in the HP-verse. It also does not have to occur exclusively due to the killing curse.

When Voldemort casted his 4th killing curse against Harry, he ONLY killed the part of his own soul inside Harry without affecting any other thing. I guess that's also a solid evidence that it only affects the soul.

Was that not the plan? The sliver of Tom's soul within Harry had to be expunged - that does not necessitate every attack on every being would result in said being's soul being ripped apart, just that in that particular instance, the killing curse targetted that piece. It was an attack of inevitable causality.

I'm leaning towards soul removal rather than destruction, because you can still go to afterlife or become a ghost after getting killed by killing curse. Any soul manipulation defense should be sufficient enough to survive this, since it has only affected featless souls.

Fair enough. That said, while some of those characters have resisted soul manipulation, others have succumbed to it. Therefore, even though those threads would be quickly locked, with that line of thinking, Tom should still stand a chance against them.

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@morpheus_:

I haven't watched the films since last year (and I have not yet watched Crimes of Grindelwald), but do you roughly recall where/when that was stated? This is strictly film Voldemort and magical beasts being exactly that should not make them immune or resistant on principle.

In the movie? I can't remember... I only remember Newt saying that wizards have more natural resistance against magic than muggles. That's a thing.

That is very true, and we do know that is achieved via murder - but murder splits and tears the soul of the perpetrator. We don't necessarily know if that also applies to the victim. I do agree there is the potential for soul manipulation in the HP-verse. It also does not have to occur exclusively due to the killing curse.

But there's supposed to be some sort of disgusting ritual for it to happen. It also splits your soul into 2, half still inside you and other half latches into something else. All of Voldemort's soul left his body (this doesn't happen with the horcrux ritual), though it still got split apart at the end.

Was that not the plan? The sliver of Tom's soul within Harry had to be expunged - that does not necessitate every attack on every being would result in said being's soul being ripped apart, just that in that particular instance, the killing curse targetted that piece. It was an attack of inevitable causality.

it was a pure coincidence, actually.

I mean, the spell only severed Voldemort's soul from Harry's body, and nothing else. I don't see why this isn't a quite solid evidence.

Fair enough. That said, while some of those characters have resisted soul manipulation, others have succumbed to it. Therefore, even though those threads would be quickly locked, with that line of thinking, Tom should still stand a chance against them.

Also, don't forget that Voldemort can mind control, and possess you.

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Hulk intelligence,lack of knowledge and his big size will be his downfall.

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The killing curse is not just a physical attack but it also attacks the soul. Hulk is not surviving it. So, it is basically a giant angry brute against a guy that can teleport, attack at souls, mind control, transmute, torture you with an attack that can turn you insane, use a fire that will literally eat you, is basically unkillable, break your mind, use illusions, insta kill, etc I don't see how this is fair.

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Hulk isn't durable enough to survive multiple sectumsempra's, AK's, crucio's, etc. and he can't touch Tom as he'll just disapparate everytime he tries. Hell, if Voldemort needs to he can just use legilimens on him.

Voldemort stomps.

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Voldermort via Imperius curse. If that and killing curses dont win hulk will eventually win

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Voldemort wins but come on, sectumsempra isn't doing anything to him. His healing factor is too much.

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I’ll just say this here

Beings like Galactus have resisted magic thus he wouldn’t get killed. 616 Hulk, 616 Thor, and 616 Thanos have also all resisted magic so they would not get killed

Everyone in the Harry Potter verse has no resistance to magic outside of wands for shield charms. Hulk similar to the others has no magic resistance therefore he dies just like fodder would

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Since the distance isn't said in the OP,they start 10ft apart so Hulk stomps.

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#48  Edited By Eredin12

Voldemort stomps