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#1  Edited By Millanine20
Skaar, Green Scar and Caiera, Hiro Kala
Skaar, Green Scar and Caiera, Hiro Kala

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Rules:

  • Hiro Kala has both the Old Power and Power Cosmic but all other characters have composite 616 feats at standard powers levels No Amps unless stated.
  • Morals Off/Bloodlusted for everyone.
  • Win By Death or KO.
  • No BFR, Telepathy Or Soul Manipulation
  • Perfect Teamwork For Both Teams.

Start 100 Meters Apart On An Indestructible Planet:

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That’s a pretty stacked team. I’m pretty sure Juggernaut can beat anyone here and ask for seconds. And Apocalypse too? Good fight but the X Men take it eventually.

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X-Men without any trouble.

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Hulks wife dies again along with her children.

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#6  Edited By ProfessorRespect

They can't beat Hiro Kala, lol at the X-team clearing with no trouble when he's insanely powerful and has his hax with the Old/New Power

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Lmao stomp

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Team wins but honestly not a stomp

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#9  Edited By ProfessorRespect

Reminder that Hiro Kala can casually manipulate the souls of dozens of people casually and literally reverse death, as well as using internal hax to murder about six dudes in seconds, oh and he actually can't die as long as he has access to the Old Power of the planet he is on

I'm really sure that a bunch of TK and wind is gonna stop that, sure

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X-Men

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Team stomps

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#13  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@ghostravage: New Power isn't really a "amp" through considering it's a natural part of his powerset, not conditioned to any sort of increase or power or limitation

Regardless, he's still got full Old Power by his side, which, frankly, is more than enough. I think people are just saying the team wins due to not knowing his feats, which is fair enough considering the rt for him came out ages ago

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#15  Edited By GodGate

Hulks win.

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X-Men stomps

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I am going with the Xmen.... there team is stacked well

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X-Men STOMP!

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@professorrespect: Jean would be a good counter to soul manipulation in my opinion. Even if she couldn’t exactly stop it completely, Jean has halted others from dying through sheer will and telepathy.

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The X-Men stomps.

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#22  Edited By GhostRavage

@professorrespect: He had the New Power temporarily, he drained it after moving K’ai from the Microverse to Earth 616. That said, he also acquired the New Power through external means. He certainly does not have that power “naturally” and it definitely was an amp.

Either way, Hulk has been added, and he could solo under these conditions.

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#23  Edited By TakenStew22

@ghostravage: How is Hulk soloing a team that has Juggernaut in it?

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X Men for sure

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#25  Edited By TakenStew22

Idk about Hiro, but Skaar and Hulk aren't gonna get the job done alone. Judging from what Professor says about Hiro tho he could help out alot.

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@ghostravage: Apocalypse could beat hulk one on one you have to ignore half of his powerset for hulk to beat him and even then it wouldn't be easy.

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Hulks. Though Caiera shouldn't be here.

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Composite feats, wow that's makes this crazy high end for the X-men team but i do laugh hard at the thought that any Hulk could beat Apocalypse by physical means.

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#29  Edited By Underfire47

Hulk stomps Apocolypse through physical means. I still don't get what some people consider special about Apoc, he literally has no means or damage output to put down someone like Hulk, what is he gonna do exactly? His best changes are using his physicals and they pale in comparison to Hulks.

Anyway team Hulk wins.

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Hulk stomps Apocolypse through physical means.

Anyway team Hulk wins.

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Composite feats, wow that's makes this crazy high end for the X-men team but i do laugh hard at the thought that any Hulk could beat Apocalypse by physical means.

Didnt the Thors beat him through physical means?

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@ghostravage: How is Hulk soloing a team that has Juggernaut in it?

I am guessing under these conditions Green Scar is in WBH mode? I am confused by the stipulation in the thread if i am being honest.

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How is Hulk soloing a team that has Juggernaut in it?

I am guessing under these conditions Green Scar is in WBH mode? I am confused by the stipulation in the thread if i am being honest.

May i ask what is confusing about it?

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#34  Edited By Underfire47

@millanine20: Would under these conditions mean that Green Scar has access to his WBH form? What does composite, standard levels suppose to mean? Isn't that just "standard" levels, composite being superfluous.

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#35  Edited By Millanine20
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@millanine20: Would under these conditions mean that Green Scar has access to his WBH form? What does composite, standard levels suppose to mean? Isn't that just "standard" levels, composite being superfluous.

No Green Scar does no have access to his WBH form. Composite basically means characters have both classic and modern feats at "standard" levels, since some people on Vine separate them for characters like Magneto or Strange for example.

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@millanine20: Yea because those people are wrong, there is no difference between classic or modern characters in Marvel, unless we are talking about characters that have been actively retconned like someone like Drax.

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#37  Edited By Underfire47

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@ghostravage: Apocalypse could beat hulk one on one you have to ignore half of his powerset for hulk to beat him and even then it wouldn't be easy.

This is pure nonsense, Apoc literally has no means of putting down Hulk and has been beaten by characters weaker than the Hulk in this thread, mainly Unworthy Thor and Jane Thor. And Green Scar has beaten characters that make Apoc look like a chump.

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@underfire47: unworthy thor had a plot weapon specifically made to beat Apocalypse and Apocalypse had to literally let thor use it on him for unworthy thor to win .

jane never beat Apocalypse one on one she had unworthy thor's help and they beat him off panel and jane had a good showing against odin at the time .

and Apocalypse has never fought green scarr.

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@comic_book_fan: Plot weapon aside, Mljonir has worked just fine against him as well.

She did in Secret Wars actually, when she blew a hole in his chest. Odin was depowered massively, so of course she got a good showing, Thor himself beat Odin almost to death and that same Jane stalemated Unworthy Thor.

Of course he hasn't, if he did he would get crunched into a ball of scrap metal, considering what Green Scar has done to characters more powerful than Apoc.

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@underfire47: magneto was weakned after avx and even when he supposedly regained his full power he was never able to do things like he could before he exhausted himself lifting a truck and took crazy effort to move small bridges magneto before this could move large astral bodies and effect the entire planet with effort could even draw energy and effect objects from deep space there is clearly a difference

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@comic_book_fan: Yea because he was actively weakened, also AvX happened in 2012, modern comic times have been going on for decades already before that.

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@underfire47: every time Apocalypse has fought a hulk he made him his lacky made him into war even a younger less experienced Apocalypse beat kluh after thor already used plot axe on him easily you do no blunt force does little to Apocalypse bladed weapons work really well on hulk Apocalypse could just teleport around him and cut him to ribbons it would take the hulk a few to recover long enough to count Apocalypse has matched strength with hulk at normal size imagine him at 10 to 20 times bigger sure hulk would ultimately be stronger but it would take awhile and Apocalypse has way to many powers .

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@underfire47: marvel had a reboot in 2015 composit means all feats count.

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#44  Edited By Underfire47

@comic_book_fan: Apoc never even fought a Hulk, the famous time he "restrained" Hulk was a weakened Hulk that just a couple of issues prior to meeting Apoc lost a fight to a T-rex and had random heart attacks appearing out of nowhere and was slowly dying because of his separation from Banner, Kluh is basically featless outside of losing a fight to young Nova and that wasn't even Apoc that fought Kluh and all he did was surprise punch him. Blunt force has done plenty to Apoc before, especially on the level of someone like Hulk, bladed weapons work on Hulk if they are of the adamantium level but even that just gets healed. When has Apoc teleported around anyone and cut them to ribbons how will Apoc even cut Hulk to ribbons when he doesn't have the necessary tools? Apoc has never matched strength with Hulk. Bi-Beast and Wendgo where 50 times bigger than Hulk and thousands of times stronger than their previous selves and they still lost to Green Scar, Apocoylpse could have billion powers under his belt it doesn't matter if they can't do anything to Hulk, Green Scar went to one of the most diverse roaster of characters in existence and not a single one managed to put him down.

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@underfire47: marvel had a reboot in 2015 composit means all feats count.

Marvel did not have a reboot in 2015
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/03/28/eccc-15-marvel-official-its-not-a-reboot/
You are spreading so much misinformation you are making my head spin.

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@kgb725 said:
@hellionvulcan said:

Composite feats, wow that's makes this crazy high end for the X-men team but i do laugh hard at the thought that any Hulk could beat Apocalypse by physical means.

Didnt the Thors beat him through physical means?

Off panel as neither could harm Nur at all despite hitting him with both their weapons many times, Composite Nur would mean the Twelve power up would be included so he warps the Hulks out of reality since no version of the Hulks involved have ever been able to harm anyone as durable as Nur. Composite Juggernaut get's Trion feats so he ones shots all the Hulks too as both are far beyond a Hulk team that is one dimensional in their attacks.

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#47  Edited By HellionVulcan

Blunt force has done plenty to Apoc before

LOLOLOLOLOLOL, Nope but it works fine on Hulk to put him down.

Plot weapon aside, Mljonir has worked just fine against him as well.

It has never harmed Nur on panel to date and the funniest thing is that was AoA Nur, who is massively beneath 616 in power/feats.

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Works like a charm LOLOLOLOL, too bad the same can't be said for Green Scar, unless you guys have a spare Skyfather laying around lol.

It has never harmed Nur on panel to date and the funniest thing is that was AoA Nur, who is massively beneath 616 in power/feats.

AHAHAHAHA, except for above. No it wasn't, there was no mention of it being AOA Nur.

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@underfire47: oh ok so they say it's not a reboot all they did was rearrange cosmic hirarchy character relationships drastic placements start at all new number ones i mean the only reason you wouldn't call it a reboot is because there was still mention of the previous universe but 52 new 52 rebirth all had that too so excuse my fake news and it was a soft reboot lol

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#50  Edited By Underfire47

@comic_book_fan said:

@underfire47: oh ok so they say it's not a reboot all they did was rearrange cosmic hirarchy character relationships drastic placements start at all new number ones i mean the only reason you wouldn't call it a reboot is because there was still mention of the previous universe but 52 new 52 rebirth all had that too so excuse my fake news and it was a soft reboot lol

You can complain all you want, but when the editors and writers say it's not a reboot, it's not a reboot, their words > yours. The difference between pre-52 and new-52 for instance is that some of the characters are completely different even iconic ones, like Superman his pre-52 self is a completely different character to his new-52 self, that didn't happen with Marvel, all it did was take Marvel from the 7th multiverse to the 8th and that's it, added a bunch of new diverse characters and everything remained the same, new number 1's pop up all the time, that's doesn't mean it's a reboot. All of the X-men titles got new number ones when Hickman took over recently that doesn't mean all the characters just got rebooted into new characters or something and that their past selves don't exist in this continuity.