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Rules
- 616 Worthy Thor
- Post Sakaar Hulk
- Stable Sentry at standard level, No Void or death seed.
- Current version for the rest.
- Win by KO/Death/Incap
- No previous knowledge.
- In character
- Perfect teamwork
- Indestructible planet
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Thor and Hulk.
Not entirely relevant but do you consider Sentry to be above or below Thor?
@emperorthanos: Below.
In all seriousness, Hulk and Thor can solo.
Especially Hulk.
I'm not going to say the team wins but this seems a bit extreme. I cannot picture hulk or thor soloing this team.
For now I'd say the duo.
Only way I'd see the team of 4 edging a majority'd be if they had perfect team work, and the duo didn't.
@jashro44: Being honest I doubt Hulk would ever be written to solo a Team like this, infact he would probably get stomped, but featwise there's definitely a case to be made for him to solo, I don't think Hyperion nor Adam can't hurt him tbh.
@thekinfing: Hulk has never been stomped by a team... Ironically... And he was actually putting a beating on a team composed of Hercules, Wonder Man, Iron Man, The Thing, She Hulk and other guys. I think he can pull it off to be honest, most of the time when he fights teams he's a truly powerful threat and gets either beaten by plot or the plot solves itself.
Team wins handily.
Stable Sentry can beat either, as an Unstable weakened Sentry matched the most powerful version of Hulk, and Void beat Thor soundly.
I don’t really see how the Team doesn’t win, unless anybody here thinks that Hulk or Thor can solo BM, Gladiator, AND Hyperion.
@thekinfing: Hulk has never been stomped by a team... Ironically... And he was actually putting a beating on a team composed of Hercules, Wonder Man, Iron Man, The Thing, She Hulk and other guys. I think he can pull it off to be honest, most of the time when he fights teams he's a truly powerful threat and gets either beaten by plot or the plot solves itself.
Would you say that team is really comparable to the one in the OP? Most of these guys are mid tiers aside from Hercules and perhaps wonder man (not an expert on him but doesn't he have different versions? Even than I don't view him as a peer to anyone in the OP).
Team wins handily.
Stable Sentry can beat either, as an Unstable weakened Sentry matched the most powerful version of Hulk, and Void beat Thor soundly.
I don’t really see how the Team doesn’t win, unless anybody here thinks that Hulk or Thor can solo BM, Gladiator, AND Hyperion.
Multiple people here think Hulk or Thor can solo BM, Hyperion, Gladiator and sentry, all four of them at once.
This is Hyperion-13034, who has beaten Hulk into Banner-form while enraged. The same Hyperion that one-shot-K.O.'d Terminus; whom Thor struggled against, killed Namor with one simple cosmic ray blast, and had proven time and again more powerful than Hulk and Thor both, worthy or not.
This is NOT the Hyperion-616 that got hid back broken by Gladiator, and was by far weaker than 13034 Hyperion.
Hyperion takes this, the rest of the team watches.
This is Hyperion-13034, who has beaten Hulk into Banner-form while enraged. The same Hyperion that one-shot-K.O.'d Terminus; whom Thor struggled against, killed Namor with one simple cosmic ray blast, and had proven time and again more powerful than Hulk and Thor both, worthy or not.
This is NOT the Hyperion-616 that got hid back broken by Gladiator, and was by far weaker than 13034 Hyperion.
Hyperion takes this, the rest of the team watches.
Hyperion never beat Hulk into Banner nor was Hulk enraged, Hulk transformed back to Banner because Abyss lost her control over him. Ironman has oneshotted Terminus before so it's really not big of a feat. Hyperion does not have a cosmic ray he has heat vision which failed to put even a scratch on someone like Hulk on 2 seperate occasions. Hyperion has actually struggled against Namor, struggeled against a half transformed Red Hulk, got taken out by a toaster, etc... He is weaksauce, he is literally fodder here.
Team wins handily.
Stable Sentry can beat either, as an Unstable weakened Sentry matched the most powerful version of Hulk, and Void beat Thor soundly.
I don’t really see how the Team doesn’t win, unless anybody here thinks that Hulk or Thor can solo BM, Gladiator, AND Hyperion.
@thekinfing: That entirely depends on whose writing it. Bendis had people experience a vision of Hulk stomping everyone, Pak would probably write an enraged Hulk beating this team(btw i am not including Sentry but the other 3), long ago as GR mentioned Hulk fought a composed team and had the upper hand and this was all before multiple upgrades Hulk has had since then.
I don't know but i really don't see Hulk and Thor losing to this team because the only one that can put up a fight is Sentry.
@grekko
You seem confused, sir. You're clearly bringing up 616 Hyperion. 13034 Hyperion has shown time and again his superiority over Thor and Hulk. He did beat Hulk into submissions, resulting in Banner-form, breaking the bond. 13034 has also survived two universes collapsing around him, stopped a planet by hand and he does in fact draw his powers from cosmic energy, not solar like Superman. I state again, this is 13034 Hyperion. Game, set and match.
@grekko
You seem confused, sir. You're clearly bringing up 616 Hyperion. 13034 Hyperion has shown time and again his superiority over Thor and Hulk. He did beat Hulk into submissions, resulting in Banner-form, breaking the bond. 13034 has also survived two universes collapsing around him, stopped a planet by hand and he does in fact draw his powers from cosmic energy, not solar like Superman. I state again, this is 13034 Hyperion. Game, set and match.
No i am not, you are confusing a few things. Hyperion has at best shown to be on Hulk and Thors level(and that was only under Hickman once other writers got a hold of him he was quite underwhelming), with Hickman confirming that Hulk is stronger that it wasn't Hyperion who beat Hulk into Banner but Abyss losing control over him. An outlier feat. No Hyperion draws his powers from the Sun unless you can show me scans where it says he draws it from cosmic energy. This can be any Hyperion you want, you can throw in multiple Hyperions even, they are all weaksauce fodder.
Hyperion and Blue Marvel are fodders. Sentry and Gladiator are below Hulk and Thor. Duo wins.
what happened to Italics ?
@empressofdread: I'm on my phone right now.
@jay_z94: He wasn't weaker, he unleashed his solar powers like he never did before, and he wasn't holding back as he says ''you're the only one I can hit like this''
But I've to admit Hulk needs his WWH or WBH version to match with Sentry, or he needs to be really angry, otherwise Sentry wins.
Hyperion + Gladiator are too much for Thor to deal with, adding Blue Marvel seals the deal.
Can somebody explain why Savage Hulk beats Stable Sentry? A weaker Sentry has already stalemated a more powerful Hulk.
idk, everyone acts like it is world war hulk
Can somebody explain why Savage Hulk beats Stable Sentry? A weaker Sentry has already stalemated a more powerful Hulk.
idk, everyone acts like it is world war hulk
As far as I know current savage hulk is as strong as Green Scar. Hulk never lost his core breech amp. He just might not be as angry as hulk was during wwhulk.
Can somebody explain why Savage Hulk beats Stable Sentry? A weaker Sentry has already stalemated a more powerful Hulk.
idk, everyone acts like it is world war hulk
As far as I know current savage hulk is as strong as Green Scar. Hulk never lost his core breech amp. He just might not be as angry as hulk was during wwhulk.
The difference in anger is huge though. And when I make a thread asking this, everybody argues that WWH is more powerful. I haven't read many of hulk's appearances post WWH-era so I don't know much about the difference, but Red Hulk also seemed to do better against savage hulk
Also, notifications don't seem to work
This is basically Hulk/Thor vs Sentry/Kallark ,and team 1 should win with better team work and damage output.
In all seriousness, Hulk and Thor can solo.
Especially Hulk.
I'm not going to say the team wins but this seems a bit extreme. I cannot picture hulk or thor soloing this team.
Solo might be a bit strong, but I don't think it's close at all. I've had allot of history with every character in this thread and I can categorically say that in terms of pure feats, Hyperion, Blue Marvel, and Gladiator are useless. Sentry is the only guy here worth mentioning and he has one planetary feat to his name, and not only is that feat shared between him and Genis Vel but doing so left him exhausted to the point he could barely stand. Sentry isn't that impressive when Void isn't involved.
The only reason I'm this confident is because team 2 only has a limited number of appearances and I've read literally all of them, there's nothing someone can show me that I haven't seen before. People used to see things like Gladiator being KOed by Colossus as a low showing, but once you read all his appearances this kind of stuff happens to him all the time, especially under his own creator. Everyone has low showings, but if it gets to a point where those 'low showings' are equal to or actually overtakes your 'good showings', it pulls into question how powerful the character actually is. And I view Kallark as more impressive than both Hyperion and Blue Marvel, so you can imagine my thoughts on those two.
Can somebody explain why Savage Hulk beats Stable Sentry? A weaker Sentry has already stalemated a more powerful Hulk.
Because Sentry isn't that impressive, not only was Hulk holding back against him but his fight in WWH is arguably one of Sentry's best showings ever.
Team wins handily.
Stable Sentry can beat either, as an Unstable weakened Sentry matched the most powerful version of Hulk, and Void beat Thor soundly.
I don’t really see how the Team doesn’t win, unless anybody here thinks that Hulk or Thor can solo BM, Gladiator, AND Hyperion.
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