How many hits can Thanos take from Toriko's White Demon ?

@leonardsnart: well, Phoenix force has a lot of low showings that put it around galaxy's level.

@theorder14: we see that he tanked it though and we can say that feat is atleast star level and he beat a star buster, tanked odins blasts, matched up with depowered tyrant, tanked hits from bloodlusted Thor with power gem, tanked a gas giant exploding without flinching, tanked blasts that completely incinerated Thor and gladiator etc. so putting thanos at star level seems to be the perfect place to put him

@theorder14: Nobody with less than high universal durability should be able to survive a black hole of any size according to the laws of physics. We should just treat it as PIS.

His ship entered the blac hole, it collapsed and distinguished away. He the came out. That is it.

@chad_duby: lol true, I guess we could put Thor around galaxy level via consistent feats

@leonardsnart: Again tanking a black hole of any size is a high universal feat. Learn a bit about physics.

Writers in comics doesn't give a sh*t about physics

@theorder14: then don't use the feat at all.

@lordwhis2: tag me again and I'll flag you

@lordwhis2: I wasn't the one who brought it up. It was @kaiocool. I was just posting the scans for him so that eveyone knows the full context

@leonardsnart: yah, consistently.

@shirso: your thread just got derailed to hel

@chad_duby: solar system level (9.3 trillion x Star Level) physical strength with Multi-Solar system level energy attacks for all trans-tiers makes sense, I guess

Yeah I am surprised tbh that this thread got so heated so quickly.

@apex_pretador:

Then Thanos would take a lot, really a lot of them

Stop it.

B&T Thor one-shotted silver surfer with a casual hammer toss,

I'm pretty sure thes happened after an extensive fight, so saying "one-shot" is a bit fallacious...

and was only getting more powerful by the time he faced Thanos. Thanos took like 6 hits from this bloodlusted Thor (who also one-shotted his shield), and was not even slightly injured.

Scans? Also, so? Taking down Surfer in a couple of blows is a multi-planet level physical feat, that's is a level of strength even Acacia could shrug off with mid difficulty at best, considering he tanked Toriko's hits(the indirect aftereffects of that hit had a large planet level scale). Yet despite that, he was one shot by a mere finger poke from White. If this is the best you've got for Thanos, White one or 2 shots him.

And shortly later, he goes on to have a nearly full issue-length fight with pissed off Odin, and still come out unscathered.

Outlier and inconsistent. Well, actually this depends on where you view Odin. If you think he's Galaxy level, he should have stomped all over Thanos' face with no difficulty whatsoever.

If you need more feats, in another comic Thanos tanked a black hole collapsing on him with only some blood and superficial damage. Before you say this isn't that much impressive, the black hole was 2 lightyears in radius. A BH with the mass of earth would be a millimeter in radius. I hope this gives you an idea.

Uhh, cool, scans? Also, even if this is true, unless all of the condensed form of this black hole fell on him, at best around 1-2 meters of the Black Hole(the part that he was in) could have collapsed on top of him, why is this beyond Large Planet+ level again?

Thanos is far more durable than his shields.

Cool.

@lordwhis2: I can't be bothered to debate with someone who thinks Thor is billions of times Star level and has clearly taken to highballing the crap out of Marvel.

Gee, maybe I give him these ratings because he has DOZENS of feats to back this up.

Also, if you really think that SS who casually surfs through stars and supernovas is Multi-Solar level then I am done debating with you.

Galactus destroyed 3 solar systems, that is dozens of QUINTILLIONS of times star level due to how ridiculous interstellar distances are.

I have explained this before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR3Igc3Rhfg&app=desktop

Distance between Pluto and Sun (which is itself thousands of times larger than OTS 44) is a fraction of the distance between sun and end of the solar system.

Voyager 1 went into interstellar space in 2012.

It will be 1.7 lightyears from the next nearest star in in 40000 years.

That is just linear distance so cube that.

Now can you begin to imagine the ridiculous scope of a feat like destroying Multiple solar systems ?

In the universe stars are like single drops of water on opposite ends of a vast ocean. Destroying the entire ocean is inconceivably more impressive than just destroying one star. They are not even comparable as feats.

Just to get you to understand how vast interstellar distances are let me use an example- if a bomb capable of destroying all the matter in the galaxy and containing all of the energy in the galaxy (which has 400 billion stars with an average size being equal to that of the sun) detonated on earth the explosion would not even reach Alpha Centauri, our nearest neighbour. Now can you begin to imagine the incredible amounts of energy required to destroy multiple solar systems in one blast.

I know my numbers feel ridiculous, especially as it is only human nature to think that it is only slightly harder to destroy a few solar systems than to destroy a star but I assure that destroying a few solar systems in 1 shot is UNIMAGINABLY more impressive than destroying a single star.

If you want more info, send me your email ID and I'll send you a video that will help you understand universal scale.

Thank You

@theorder14:

yes, that's what I refer to

gravity is physical force, right? taking gravitation that instantly destroyed everything in 2ly radius is better durability than white's attacks..

All of them still wouldn't faze him

@kaiocool: the gravity inside the singularity of any black hole is infinite. You shouldn't be able to survive it despite your durability unless you are like high universal. Thanos surviving it is PIS.

@apex_pretador

What?

Saying Thanos can no-sell White's hits is.....nonsensical to say the least.

One shot is a one-shot.

Not if he was smacked several times before getting "one-shot", then its not a one shot anymore. By your logic, if I beat up someone on the street to the point he was lying on the ground, bleeding etc and I then knocked him out with a kick, I would have one-shot him.

I don't remember the exact issue in which it happened, otherwise I'd post scans. And the "extensive fight" was everyone in the infinity watch+surfer+dr strange trying to avoid Thor's hits. Thor hits Surfer once (with a hammer throw), and he's out.

From he scans I vaguely ramember, they had a pretty extensive fight with both of them getting a few hits of and Thor then finishing Surfer with a hammer throw. Hardly even a stomp, let alone a one-shot.

Sure, here you go:

Ok, thanks. Now, you saying earlier that Thanos "no-sold", the hits was a blatant lie, the narrator(Pimp the troll, I believe?) explicitly stated that Thanos took damage but got a kick from it, hell, blood was literally streaming from his nose and he was only fighting on-par with Thor, till he got him with that cosmic weapon thingy. The fight wasn't even a stomp in Thanos' favour, and he clearly didn't no-sell any of Thors hits, he was visibly knocked back, bleeding and grunting from them. Not even being able to no-sell hits from a Large Planet+ level opponent alone makes it a sure thing he gets one or 2 shot by White, who did this to a powered up Acacia:

In comparison, a weaker version of Acacia(he powered up after eating the 8 Kings), tanked a Large Planet+ level hit just fine:(After this he literally jumps off and proceeds to engage Toriko again, with no sign of hindrance)

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For reference, this is Large Planet level as the Toriko Earth is dozens to hundreds of times bigger than our Earth.

Thor one-shotted Surfer with just a casual hammer toss.

I severely doubt it was casual considering Thor's state of mind, he was highly bloodlusted at the time.

And Thor was explicitly noted to be getting more powerful with time. Thor tanked like half a dozen hits from him.

Yeah, he tanked them, but saying he "no-sold" or "ignored" them is clearly reaching a lot. Besides, tanking Large Planet+ level attacks is something even Acacia could do(as I showed) and White casually one shot him.

This was also a bloodlusted Thor. Even regular unamped bloodlusted Thor is capable of levelling planets with his hammer strikes, let alone a madness amped Thor. Now add power gem on the top of it.

Being bloodlusted wouldn't necessarily increase his physical strength as opposed to his normal serious self though(unless I'm missing something specific about Thor?). The Power Gem would give him a big increase for sure, most likely at least 2-3 times, but the fact number wasn't given so it's rather ambiguous, no?

Besides, normal Thor should be capable of busting a normal sized panet(say, Earth), with a serious strike, perhaps 2-4 Earths if we reach a bit, but nothing much above that. We can agree on that, no? So, even assuming bloodlust+Power Gem amps him some 10(or even 20) times over, he'd still only be at around normal Toriko's striking level(most likely capable of destroying the Toriko Earth, if he so desired) which Acacia no-sold, considering the size of the Toriko planet in comparison to Earth:

And Silver Surfer has tanked planet busting, surfed through supernovas for fun, etc.

Yeah, in terms of energy blasts, which isn't the same thing as physical attacks. Sure, Surfer can tank your average, Earth destroying punch, but something like BT Thor(20 or so times that), would still be too much for him.

Surfer has tanked that level of damage so that isn't impressive.

Surfer has tanked a physical attack of that calibre? Scans?

Yet Surfer was one-shotted by a mere hammer toss from PG Thor.

Isn't a hammer toss =/> a normal hit from Thor, or did I get that wrong?

I believe that PG Thor is atleast around White by feats you've listed. Thanos tanked many hits from him.

Nah, PG Thor is more around normal Toriko by feats, who's attacks Acacia tanked(though he didn't no-sell them), yet he was oneshotted by a single finger poke from White.

And this is pre-imperative Thanos I'm talking about

Is the difference between them that significant?

Implying that Thanos can't tank galaxy busting attacks, lol

Wait, am I missing something? He clearly can't.

A black hole of 2 lightyear radius has mass several times that of milky way galaxy

Except that Black Hole didn't actually have a radius of 2 lightyears, it was merely said that it sucked in every in a 2 lightyear radius, not that it was actually 2 lightyears long itself. In fact, the scans posted on post 81 literally say it's a miniature Black Hole, far from 2 lightyears in size. All-in-all, the size and "DC" of this Black Hole feat is unquantifiable and thus shouldn't be used as evidence for Thanos' Star+ level durability.

Scans were posted in this thread already

Post 81

Thanks.

@hittheassasin: stars and supernovae do not count as energy blasts.

@hittheassasin: Also I find the idea that durability to physical attacks and durability to energy blasts are different highly unscientific.

Also I found nothing in your post remotely as impressive as no selling a blow from a guy who destroyed a warp gate that dwarfed stars.

Or surviving an explosion that totalled a ship large enough to carry solar systems.

Or being hit by a physical blow that contained the energy of a sun.

Uh, yes they do? They're clearly not the same as punches(physical attack) per say, unless you want to classify them as heat durability instead, which doesn't really affect my argument.

@hittheassasin: a supernova is a colossal explosion that emits an incredible amount of kinetic energy.

They are not even remotely the same thing as conventional comic energy blasts.

@hittheassasin: a supernova is the mass of a star being violently flung outward with incredible force, it's not a laserbeam !

@lordwhis2: Never said it was. Either way, this doesn't change my argument, so I'll be ignoring this.

@hittheassasin: A supernova is the mass of a star being flung at you. It is a physical attack ! What a supernova is a shockwave, tanking one is a feat for physical durability.

@lordwhis2: I don't care. Please stop tagging me, this discussion is pointless.

@apex_pretador: I will allow HTA to respond, but the Toriko planet isn't smaller than earth, its actually a bigger planet than Uranus.

Here's a chart showing its relative size wrt other planets in the Solar System.

Also, 2 more things to keep in mind about the Toriko planet:

1)Its made of a vibranium like substance that continuously absorbs energy and expands.

2)It is so dense that its explosion was stated to dwarf a supernova.

@shirso: I meant a bit smaller than Saturn

My bad, I never intended to say it's smaller than earth, which is clear if you read my post

event horizon is not specified, only its dc is...

Lol so Thanos is now universal because he survived a black hole, lmfao.

@kaiocool: It's event horizon since it is defined as the point at which everything (light included) gets sucked in

we have reports of black holes sucking in even galaxies, doesn't mean their event horizon is galaxy sized

the black hole itself was "miniature" , so smaller than an average black hole - definitely << 2 ly event horizon

Can this guy hit harder than galaxy buster Odin? No? So all of them.

@lordwhis2: probably

@death2heretics: That is why the feat is PIS.

@death2heretics: yes thanos is universal

@jasonhitto: not base Thanos no.

@hittheassasin: judging by how you ignored my post to you, I take it you couldn't debunk it so yeah Thanos can tank a few punches

I don't know why you're getting mad over a fictional character being able to take a few punches from another fictional character

@leonardsnart: No, I ignored it because I couldn't be bothered to deal with it after being tagged like 50 times by many different people on this thread.

I decided to focus on Apex Pretador as he's the one I know I can have the most productive discussion with.

Also, where did you get the idea I was getting mad? I really don't care about this thread all that much.

Thanos should be able to survive hundreds of them. Only getting a blood nose after several shots from a Warrior Madness, Power Gem enhanced Thor, when base Thor is capable of shattering a planet, puts his durability far beyond this.

@hittheassasin: your posts make people assume you're not happy that Thanos is tanking a few attacks, don't really know why cause no one is saying he wins

@leonardsnart: Because I'm not happy with it. Saying he can tank a few is fine with me, but nonsensical claims like "takes hundreds", "takes trillions" or "easily tanks many" is silly. Not being happy =/= being mad though.

@hittheassasin: alright, you understand that saying he only tanks one or zero was wrong though ryt?

He still tank infinity without damage

I don't see why Thanos can't tank any of his punches. If it's only planet level like so many said then the Mad Titan should take this no problem.

He can tank all of them.