Poll How many hits can Kaguya tank from Yamamoto before KOd? (46 votes)
Yamamoto is Prime bankai and Bloodlusted
Kaguya is full power but has to tank full force of his attacks.
Yamamoto is Prime bankai and Bloodlusted
Kaguya is full power but has to tank full force of his attacks.
I’m not exactly sure how Hot Yamamoto Bankai can get but saying Kaguya has no resistance to heat is false
Madara didn’t need his regeneration for Naruto‘s Lava Rasenshuriken
And Kaguya was hit with multiple elemental Rasenshuriken including lava one and she was damaged but still perfectly fine
Naruto lava rasenshuriken is a much higher degree than just fire. It scales from Roshi who was the 4 Tails jinchuriki with Son Goku 4 Tails he could use lava cloak which burnt even KCM Naruto’s skin when KCM Naruto is much more durable and can tank nukes from 10 tails tenpenchii. So scaling from that i would say Kaguya can survive lava heat at least. I mean she did create an entire planet covered with lava and one completely covered with oceans of acid, she’s probably immune to them but it’s pure speculation.
So saying Kaguya doesn’t have fire resistance is false.
plus I could see Kaguya absorbing the fire based lava attacks. At the end of the day they are fire lava type sword slashes.
@narutoisplanetlevel said:
I’m not exactly sure how Hot Yamamoto Bankai can get but saying Kaguya has no resistance to heat is false
Madara didn’t need his regeneration for Naruto‘s Lava Rasenshuriken
And Kaguya was hit with multiple elemental Rasenshuriken including lava one and she was damaged but still perfectly fine
Naruto lava rasenshuriken is a much higher degree than just fire. It scales from Roshi who was the 4 Tails jinchuriki with Son Goku 4 Tails he could use lava cloak which burnt even KCM Naruto’s skin when KCM Naruto is much more durable and can tank nukes from 10 tails tenpenchii. So scaling from that i would say Kaguya can survive lava heat at least. I mean she did create an entire planet covered with lava and one completely covered with oceans of acid, she’s probably immune to them but it’s pure speculation.
So saying Kaguya doesn’t have fire resistance is false.
plus I could see Kaguya absorbing the fire based lava attacks. At the end of the day they are fire lava type sword slashes.
1. You can't scale heat resistance from one character to another, it makes no sense. It would be like scaling hax resistance from one character to another
2. Naruto was getting burned from Roshi's unspecified heat
3. Those feats are fodder compared to Yama's Bankai heat lol. His Bankai is 15,000,000 degrees
Hard to say. I never quite know how to deal with Yama's Bankai tbh. On one hand we have the 15m degree statement, but on the other hand, nukes reach way more temperatures than that but yet can't even bust mountains, while we have seen what even the most basic TBB's do. Again, compared to nukes, Yama's Bankai is constantly at 15m degrees, however his actual feats with it aren't overtly impressive apart from the SS destruction statement.
All in all, I guess it probably hurts her bad, but saying she gets obliterated is likely too presumptuous imo.
Look at Woodward trying to use an AoE feat to justify Kaguya surviving 15,000,000 degrees which is over 10,000+ times hotter than Lava. Lava that God Tier characters were afraid to fall in. If they could really tank 15,000,000 degrees they'd be able to swim in Lava and call it cold.
Hard to say. I never quite know how to deal with Yama's Bankai tbh. On one hand we have the 15m degree statement, but on the other hand, nukes reach way more temperatures than that but yet can't even bust mountains, while we have seen what even the most basic TBB's do. Again, compared to nukes, Yama's Bankai is constantly at 15m degrees, however his actual feats with it aren't overtly impressive apart from the SS destruction statement.
All in all, I guess it probably hurts her bad, but saying she gets obliterated is likely too presumptuous imo.
Yeah, Evaporating water over a Large island/small country sized area isn’t impressive heat wise.
Neither is sublimating spiritual ice from miles away
There is also the fact Kaguya is immortal. Literally immortal and can't die at all. Hagoromo has powers that can erase things at atomic level (Truth Seeker Ball), take souls away etc. yet he could only stop her by sealing her powers away and her body inside a celestial body.
Last time I checked, Soul Society couldn't kill Aizen and had to be sealed, and it's likely Yama's Bankai was tested on him and it failed, otherwise they wouldn't have took that process.
Yamamoto is epitome of baseless hypes. Not a single feat lives up to his statements.
@sup3rn0va: The only ones who feared falling to lava were Kakashi and Sakura, and they aren't God tiers. Pretty ironic how you ignore that same lava universe was created by Kaguya herself.
@ourmanuel: Yeah evaporating water across the Seireitei is great and all, especially as it was done passively, but at the end of the day, it's still water, not rock or land mass. If you actually quantified the energy output for that I doubt it would give values much larger than vaping an island sized land mass at best.
So Yama in Bankai passively emits island vaping amounts of energy, while obviously trying his best to hold himself back. Which is beastly but not enough in itself at this tier. A direct hit from his Bankai is a whole different issue though, taking into account the SS statement and all.
@sup3rn0va: No, I proved Kaguya casually tanked things far more powerful than what Yamamoto could ever dream of, and all of his feats combined. You need to prove Yamamoto can damage someone of that level of durability, which you can't.
@sup3rn0va: The only ones who feared falling to lava were Kakashi and Sakura, and they aren't God tiers. Pretty ironic how you ignore that same lava universe was created by Kaguya herself.
Right because Naruto totally didn't have to save Sasuke from falling into it.
1. It's never stated Kaguya created those dimensions, when will you Naruto fans get over it
2. Even if she did create it, what does that have to do with anything?
@ourmanuel: Yeah evaporating water across the Seireitei is great and all, especially as it was done passively, but at the end of the day, it's still water, not rock or land mass. If you actually quantified the energy output for that I doubt it would give values much larger than vaping an island sized land mass at best.
by your logic, absolute 0 wouldnt oneshot kaguya too. Stop thinking about it in terms of energy and instead think of it in terms of the temperature itself.
So Yama in Bankai passively emits island vaping amounts of energy, while obviously trying his best to hold himself back. Which is beastly but not enough in itself at this tier. A direct hit from his Bankai is a whole different issue though, taking into account the SS statement and all.
he is emitting that much energy in heat. If he were to say, be emitting that much energy in like gamma radiation, would you then say that anyone above island level can take it?
by your logic, absolute 0 wouldnt oneshot kaguya too. Stop thinking about it in terms of energy and instead think of it in terms of the temperature itself.
Temperature isn't the only deciding factor when talking of heat based damage though. We also need to consider specific heat (like for instance, iron at 100 degrees would burn you far worse than boiling water at 100 degrees) and the amount of material ( a pot of boiling water would burn you far worse than a drop ). Temperature only decides whether there will be transfer of heat but the actual amount of heat energy transferred depends on other things as well.
he is emitting that much energy in heat. If he were to say, be emitting that much energy in like gamma radiation, would you then say that anyone above island level can take it?
Gamma radiation gives radiation poisoning so nah unless they have the proper feats.
But anyway, temperature and heat reserves are both important in gauging heat damage and fortunately Yama has both. He is 15m degrees so he will be transferring heat to Kaguya and his reserves are like enough to burn Soul Society so the amount of heat energy he can transfer is massive as well. So a single strike which would likely transfer a sizeable portion of his SS vaping heat reserves probably hurts her bad but not completely erases her. But if he, say, held his Bankai in sustained contact with Kaguya for even a few seconds, she gets vaped entirely, no question. She cannot tank SS vaping amounts of heat.
Having said all that, I wouldn't agree with Yama putting her down if all he had was the 15m statement and the Seiretei water evaporating feats. But thankfully it seems Kubo knew exactly what he was doing when he wrote his powers.
by your logic, absolute 0 wouldnt oneshot kaguya too. Stop thinking about it in terms of energy and instead think of it in terms of the temperature itself.
Temperature isn't the only deciding factor when talking of heat based damage though. We also need to consider specific heat (like for instance, iron at 100 degrees would burn you far worse than boiling water at 100 degrees) and the amount of material ( a pot of boiling water would burn you far worse than a drop ). Temperature only decides whether there will be transfer of heat but the actual amount of heat energy transferred depends on other things as well.
the science you just mentioned now is irrelevant due to the statemnts of it evaporating water in seireitei and sublimating Toshiro’s ice. I feel like you’re really trying hard to dance around this point.
Gamma radiation gives radiation poisoning so nah unless they have the proper feats.
And heat causes melting/heat damage/whatever you wanna call it. So why’re you trying to compare that to normal physical durability?
But anyway, temperature and heat reserves are both important in gauging heat damage and fortunately Yama has both. He is 15m degrees so he will be transferring heat to Kaguya and his reserves are like enough to burn Soul Society so the amount of heat energy he can transfer is massive as well. So a single strike which would likely transfer a sizeable portion of his SS vaping heat reserves probably hurts her bad but not completely erases her. But if he, say, held his Bankai in sustained contact with Kaguya for even a few seconds, she gets vaped entirely, no question. She cannot tank SS vaping amounts of heat.
Having said all that, I wouldn't agree with Yama putting her down if all he had was the 15m statement and the Seiretei water evaporating feats.
the water evaporating one should be enough.....bruh, he himself is the singular Source of the heat. And he’s doing that to all of seireitei/SS. Anything within a couple city blocks of him should be ashes instantly. If this were any other character, we’d have the CV pseudo-scientists pulling out their calcs to say even crazier things.
@ourmanuel: As long as we agree that he has what it takes to vape her, no need to care about the finer details :).
Though I am curious why him evaporating the water around Seireitei makes the science irrelevant. On the contrary I am 99% sure Kubo knew his science when he wrote the powers if anything.
@ourmanuel: As long as we agree that he has what it takes to vape her, no need to care about the finer details :).
Though I am curious why him evaporating the water around Seireitei makes the science irrelevant. On the contrary I am 99% sure Kubo knew his science when he wrote the powers if anything.
it’s irrelevant cuz the specific heat thing wouldn’t be needed anymore to calc how hot he can make his surroundings
@shirso: I don't think you quite Yamamoto bankai statement, the heat was all concentrated on his sword and his body in other words suppressed in other not to kill everyone in the area and he couldn't sustain the bankai for long because he couldn't supress It for long and if not supress the heat would completely vaporize everything.
@universeichigo1: I agree.
Kaguya is immortal, and there is no, no way to seriously die. He is powerful enough to create planets. He won't even care about the attacks of this fodder.
She*. Kaguya is a female.
If you really believe in these 15m degrees of Yamamoto's bankai - you should visit a therapist ASAP.
Kaguya can go sleep and Yamamoto can hit her all day, he won't do anything.
Any resistance feat for Kaguya for fire that has temperatures like the sun?
Also her regeneration is not a factor here, since we only going with the best known regeneration feat that a charakter has shown. Kaguya never was vaporized, or burn to ash (For example)
Any resistance feat for Kaguya for fire that has temperatures like the sun?
She has none.
Also her regeneration is not a factor here, since we only going with the best known regeneration feat that a charakter has shown. Kaguya never was vaporized, or burn to ash (For example)
^^^^This, some people really tend to overhype her regeneration, when she had problems regenerating her horn and arm.
arguing she survives the heat of the suns core becouse she can survive lava is like arguing a character can survive a country level atack becouse he survived a town level atack.
naruto wankers are really gettin dumber each day.
Any resistance feat for Kaguya for fire that has temperatures like the sun?
She has none.
Lol, then she has a problem. Where is option 0?
Also her regeneration is not a factor here, since we only going with the best known regeneration feat that a charakter has shown. Kaguya never was vaporized, or burn to ash (For example)
^^^^This, some people really tend to overhype her regeneration, when she had problems regenerating her horn and arm.
Even if she don´t have those problems, we need feats or at least a good statement that say how high her regeneration level is. Immortality doesn´t give you automatically a high regeneration level. Afaik the best regeneration feats have the shinobis, who are summoned via Edo Tensei.
I mean no characters in HST survives Bankai Yama's direct strike if they have to tank it, ignoring immortality/reviving.
I mean no characters in HST survives Bankai Yama's direct strike if they have to tank it, ignoring immortality/reviving.
Characters like Ichibei, Aizen, Ichigo and Yhwach should be able to tank it.
@leothegreatest: None of these characters has shown heat resistance on Yama's scale. Yhwach DID feel the need to steal his Bankai (you know the one that previously owned him?).
@leothegreatest: None of these characters has shown heat resistance on Yama's scale. Yhwach DID feel the need to steal his Bankai (you know the one that previously owned him?).
Royd was powerful enough to stand in its range and not get immediately turned to ash. Characters much more powerful than Yamma should be able to deal with direct attacks from Zanka no Tachi.
Yhwach stole the Bankai and never felt the need to use it. The logical answer being because his enemies afterwards were Ichibei, Ichigo and Aizen the people who the Bankai wouldn’t be useful against.
I mean no characters in HST survives Bankai Yama's direct strike if they have to tank it, ignoring immortality/reviving.
any character stronger than yamamoto in reaitsu or massively stronger can tank it per rules of bleach, every attack can be tanked as long as its not a reality bending or hax, Yamamoto is a fire/heat based attack so the rules of bleach apply, if yamamoto were to attack Aizen or Yhwach with it they would be able to hold it with their bare hands easily break it, Yamamoto bankai is that powerfull because his own reaitsu is that strong, if his zanpakuto were wielded by anyone else it would not be able to reveal this amount of power as seen in the Novel/Tokinada, same with Aizen and his KS.
Yamamoto Bankai/Power was only comparable to Yhwach before yhwach regained his power/eyes opened, after that his bankai became obsolete for Yhwach which is why he never used it, it be like Kenpachi trying to use Ikkaku bankai when kenpachi own power vastly surpasses his 3rd seat.
@leothegreatest: None of these characters has shown heat resistance on Yama's scale. Yhwach DID feel the need to steal his Bankai (you know the one that previously owned him?).
Royd was powerful enough to stand in its range and not get immediately turned to ash. Characters much more powerful than Yamma should be able to deal with direct attacks from Zanka no Tachi.
Yhwach stole the Bankai and never felt the need to use it. The logical answer being because his enemies afterwards were Ichibei, Ichigo and Aizen the people who the Bankai wouldn’t be useful against.
I'm specifically talking about Yama's direct strikes, not the passive heat. Your claim is logical on paper, but also baseless.
Yhwach stole the Bankai because otherwise he was gonna get roasted if not outright vaped by it for the second time. And him not using it afterwards is simply due to him having his own powerset.
So can these characters survive being teleported to the core of the sun?
@raziel2014: So can the likes of Yhwach, Aizen Ichigo etc... survive being teleported to the core of the sun?
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