How many 616 Thors would it take to beat New 52 Superman

Morals off for both and Thor is worthy

1/2

Half of Thor holding Mjnoir.

@kingant27: ?

One might be enough.

One because of superman's magic weakness.

One or two.

2. He’s barely beating 1.

1 is debatable, slightly in favor of Superman. 2 should solidly be enough.

2. 1 Thor gives Clark a tough fight before going down. 2 Thors will definitely beat Nupes.

2 Thor's are enough to put him down.

2, Thor vs Nuperman is close and debatable imo, but I lean toward Nuperman

Edit: Was gonna say Inb4 Infinity cause they're all statues, but too late

Supermans speed is vastly oversold. Imo Thor beats the crap out of him if/when it elevates to space.

1-2.

They all get blitzed.

Thor's a statue no matter the amount.

2-3.

One thor plus one tiny thor on his shoulder

2 should be probably enough.

Who the hell is Nuperman?

@anthp2000: New 52 Superman. People call him Nuperman for short.

On Topic: Two would stomp him. One vs. One is debatable.

@anthp2000: New52 Superman, too lazy to say the full thing

@valorknight: @kevd4wg: @krleavenger: sounds like a bad nickname you get in high school

@thekinfing: I do think he beats Thor for a majority, but I don't see why it's not arguable. From what I understand, New52 Clark does not abuse his speed(or have it) close to as good as his post-crisis version. Thor has counters to speed as well like Throwing/Calling back mjolnir, lightning spam, energy blasts, bullrushes, storms, etc. Just saying "speed" doesn't allow you to beat Thor, even though Thor is quite slow. Thor also has solid striking to put down Superman and from what I've heard, New52 Superman actually has a more prevalent magic weakness then post-crisis, meaning the Lightning will do better against him.

1.

1-2

Marvels speed is crap when you compare majority characters to DC characters. Superman has the speed, and strength to surpass thor. new 52 Superman bench press Earth's weight for 5 days straight and broke only ONE sweat after having no sunlight.

Also when he gets serious Superman's punches from the Earth's core are felt up into space from the Watch tower....

We know reaction/processing speed Superman can calculate a star that is 27 light years away (that being his home planet's star) and did it in under a few seconds that would take a supercomputer years to do.

Can react to flash's speed which is always above quicksilvers on ground combat.

Blitz into a situation a thousandth of a second, while taking everything into account that is happening.

We know endurance/stamina wise Superman flew from the edge of the Universe to earth non stop for 60 days.

If I recall Superman survived a ground level atomic explosion with Wonder Woman even though both were heavily beaten/damage yet survived for he took all the punishment to keep Diana safe.

Plus He survives a black hole when fighting branica , and then we go back to the 60 days flying from the edge of the universe too earth feat non stop.

Also survives a gun attack that could crack a continent at full strength so I mean not like 2 Thor's is enough.

Also molecular manipulation is useless. If death Aura from doomsday, fire, and ice manipulation on a molecular level doesn't do Superman in than molecular cosmic energy probably won't stand much of a chance.

And for anyone going on about "weakness to magic" he took a magic blast from a planet eating monster, and acted like it is nothing.

Going to take 10 Thor's If you want to "play nice" Superman is just on another level Speed Wise, and lifting strength/striking is just too much for Thor in what he normally takes on a daily bases.

2 Thor's would stomp him...

A better thread would be, “How many 616 Thors can beat a Post- Crisis Superman

@thepunisherfan Nah that is just spite. Post Crisis Superman eat's 616 Thor's by the hundreds if we again "play nice" ;) He ain't nothing without rune king thor/odin force. Otherwise

even though DCAU Superman I like how it goes down to which is what Thor is to Superman:

@jackkira89: No... Dormammu destroys Superman

Lol at some of the responses here. 2 Thors can do it.

@thepunisherfan Not sure were Dormammu comes into this. I said Thor.....Obviously Dormammu does unless you Give Superman cosmic armor version/Sword of Superman added with a mother box, and have him sun dip/give him all of his weapons/blue sunlight:

Superman and Thor have always been very debatable, now that people don't like discussing this overdone battle, I think he's given Superman fanboys some kind of confidence that Superman is above Thor.

new 52 Superman does have strength edge over modern Thor, and of course speed.

but, modern Thor have far better striking advantage and durability.

let's compare their feats shall we?

Thor smashed Ds sentry face to shreds with his hammer strike.

he smashed planets with his strike and shook stars.

a weakened depressed Thor tanked a solar system level bomb exploding in his face unworthy Thor #4.

OK

Superman have speed edge but orion showed new 52 Superman have a laughable striking power,orion laughed at his superspeed punches, I am not saying Thor>orion in durability but there are close .

Thor also always uses his hammer as a diversion to get the drop on fast characters. even if Superman blitz him Thor only needs to think to call lightning as a diversion to retaliate with Brain smashing mjolnir strikes

OK, theirs no way new 52 Superman is beating Thor for a majority.

Thor also can casually teleport people with his bolt, the most recent instance is from avengers 2018 #2 or is it #1. well whatever, so he have more options and he is durable enough to withstand Superman's blitz or even his strongest punch.

@jackkira89: Really now you’re putting Superman against TOAA?

Two, and one is already debatable with Supes only seeming to win due to speed.

Supes could probably handle one Thor, I struggle to see him beating two of them and he's definitely not taking 3 of them.

2-3 I guess. A single Thor is already a good fight however.

2

@thekinfing:

Mjorlnir has been dodged by virtually everyone on the Marvel universe at some point or other, most of them who are multiple orders of magnitude slower than Superman.

You can't act like Bloodlust applies to Superman and not to Thor. How fast Mjolnir travels depends entirely on how fast he throws it, hence it'll move faster under bloodlust when Thor is throwing it at full force. Plus, we've seen Thor catch fast characters like Surfer off guard with calling it on them while their distracted in Mighty Thor #5

We've also seen that he can throw it/call it back with lots of force, especially combined with high speeds like in Thor #400 when he throws it at presumably FTL-MFTL speeds(There's no planetoids near Earth)

So I see no reason why Thor can't tag Superman with that, especially if Thor is distracting him in CQC

Thor isn't bullrushing Clark at any speed he can't comprehend and he need to be conscius of the situation in hand to do so

Um what? Do you think Thor has to be at speeds he can comprehend to bullrush? He's bullrushed Galactus while moving as a blur to Silver Surfer in The Mighty Thor #4

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Do you really think Thor is significantly faster then Surfer to comprehend how he was blitzing him?

Storms are out-of-character

Based on what? He's literally "The God of Thunder." He uses storms quite a bit

and even a morals off Thor only spams lighting and swing his hammer like a mad man

What... Do you think Thor just goes around swinging his hammer and missing everyone? Occasionally spamming lightning as well? Hell no, Thor isn't the most competent fighter, but he uses stuff like hammer throws in combat, storms too. Just a few examples

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• Scan 1: Thor uses a hammer throw to briefly KO the Phoenix Force(Hostless) for a few seconds as confirmed by the narration(Avengers vs X-Men #4) In case you think this is an outlier or sth, hostless PF is much weaker then with a host
• Scan 2: Thor uses a hammer throw and it one-shots Air-Walker(Thor 306)
• Scan 3-5: Thor creates one of the largest storms ever and funnels it's energies into the Destroyer(Thor vol 2 #1)

Overall, it's not Out of Character for Thor to use storms/hammer throws/bullrushes at all. It honestly sounds like you think Thor is a mentally impaired fighter.

Lighting isn't tagging someone who can fight within the span of milliseconds and dodge point black lighting as a Young Adult.

Thor's lightning is a hell of a lot more powerful then normal lightning, it's not normal lightning. Why would you think that it's as fast as normal lightning, in fact there have been way faster then normal lightning

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• Scan 1-2: Thor uses lightning on a ship that Bill confirms is the size of a small solar system, considering the size of the ship it created like a planetary AoE and traveled at FTL-MFTL speeds(Unworthy Thor #2/4)
• Scan 3-4: The weaker War Thor is able to within the span of a second have his lightning massively outpace U.S.A. sized Asgard, which is much faster then normal lightning(Mighty Thor #701)

Those are just two from recent memories.

As I said, I think Superman takes like a 6/10 majority, but it's definitely debatable.

@kevd4wg:

Um what? Do you think Thor has to be at speeds he can comprehend to bullrush? He's bullrushed Galactus while moving as a blur to Silver Surfer in The Mighty Thor #4

He wasn't moving like a blur to silver surfer. Norrin stopped when thor flew past him and he still saw thor as he was headed towards galactus, there is not indication that norrin had any degree of trouble seeing him.

Thor's lightning is a hell of a lot more powerful then normal lightning, it's not normal lightning. Why would you think that it's as fast as normal lightning, in fact there have been way faster then normal lightning

The instance in unworthy thor gives no indication as to the size or distance the lightning travels. If you were scaling using the lightning size thor would be the size of a continent.

The instance in mighty thor sees the thor summon lightning where he is, its not outpacing anything.

There is nothing to suggest Superman would have even the slightest trouble dodging thors lightning given the fact that there is little in terms of evidence that is faster than regular lightning at all.

On topic, I'm tempted to say no amount would be Clark given the fact that they'd literally all be statues to him lol

One.

Over 100

2 or 3

@the_living_tribunal_24: Just his hand and Mjnoir.

What? 1 is enough.

Thor is durable enough to take his hits before tagging Clark with lightning which would seriously hurt him.

If the magic vulnerability isn't effective, one Thor is a solid match for Supes, 5/10 either way (Supes is stronger, faster, Thor is tougher, more skilled). With two Thors the odds become overwhelming for Supes.

If the magic vulnerability is on, one Thor is, of course, too much for Supes.