EG Captain America has his shield and Mjolnir.
616 Caps only have one shield each.
No holding back.
Comparing MCU Cap's best to Cap's standard level in comics.
1/2 of a 616 Cap.....He’s easily far above bullet time in the comics, and he’s so much faster than the MCU version
@emmafrostxmen: I'm not sure speed is the only thing that will matter here. Can 616 lightning time?
@vertigo-: @danieldaripper: why?
@rebake: what? When?
@rbt: I think people who say that either do not count Mjolnir or simply don't think it increases his stats (which I do not agree with). If the former is the case, one should be enough. But yeah, if he indeed has Thor's stats, then not even an army would be enough.
@king-ragnar: He gets one shotted and you know it.
@rbt: I think people who say that either do not count Mjolnir or simply don't think it increases his stats (which I do not agree with). If the former is the case, one should be enough. But yeah, if he indeed has Thor's stats, then not even an army would be enough.
It says Cap has Mjolnir in the OP though.
EG Captain America has his shield and Mjolnir.
I agree with the rest.
@jashro44: Um not he doesn't. When was that ever shown? Everytime Thanos got a good hit on him he was instantly knocked out. And he needed Mjolnir to deal with those random ass fodders, if he had Thors stats then he wouldnt of needed it in that situation.
@tonymartial: Phase 1 Thor would get knocked out by thanos as well. It’s quite clear that Thor got plenty of buffs since phase 1 don’t be real ridiculous. His durability is much higher than phase 1 now.
Lol at 1 616 Cap taking him. EG Cap was just Phase 1 Thor with an massive skill increase.
I say 5-10 could take him.
@noah_ouellette: You really see him outright one shotting him? Yes he did get a bloody nose from Hulk but thats when the Whedon force was a thing. Also, he no sold the destroyers explosion.
@wolverinebatmanftw: Thor is still skilled ya know. Not a "massive" increase but still a decent buff.
@king-ragnar: He gets one shotted and you know it.
Now since you know virtually nothing about the 616 Universe or how it is laughably superior to the MCU, let me show you what a hit from 616 Mjolnir did to the actual Steve Roger's Proto Adamantium shield :
Nothing but put a dent in it. You want to know what Thor was that? That was a pissed off King Thor. You want to know what's going to happen MCU Mjolnir when it hit's a Proto Adamantium Shield? Absolutely nothing.
Go Ahead. Explain how he get's one shotted.
@king-ragnar: I think he meant without the shield, like if somehow he could land a solid hit on 616 Cap.
I think he meant without the shield
OP States both have their shields.
like if somehow he could land a solid hit on 616 Cap.
Yeah, that's not happening.
Hell, even if he does manage to get a hit Rogers will just block it with his shield.
All you need is 1 Cap and 1 hit to the back of the head.
616 Cap would never bypass MCU Cap’s durability with Mjolnir.
There is no evidence to suggest that he got Thor's stats when he got Mjolnir.
@king-ragnar: I know every Cap has their shield here, and I said "somehow".
Maybe because hes not going to be hitting the shield? I dont recall Steve timing lightning.
Steve can also create huge shockwaves like the one in the Avengers.
Mjolnir can track Quicksilver so it will have no problem hitting Steve if he throws it. And even if he did dodge it he wouldnt expect it from behind.
The amount of 616 rogers that mjolnir steve would maul on is funny and saying one 616 steve would beat him is pathetic.
Maybe because hes not going to be hitting the shield? I dont recall Steve timing lightning.
Please. Even people like Daredevil can dodge lighting
Steve can also create huge shockwaves like the one in the Avengers.
I just showed you scans of his shield taking a hit from King Thor and you're comparing it to that? Lmao. And it's not like that's the only instance his shield didnt such a thing, as it stopped a punch from Immortal Hulk :
Mjolnir can track Quicksilver so it will have no problem hitting Steve if he throws it
Yea because it's not like Steve hasn't reacted to the likes of lasers after they've been fired :
And even if he did dodge it he wouldnt expect it from behind.
Of course . 616 Steve Roger's has no idea what Mjolnir and has never seen it in action.
The amount of 616 rogers that mjolnir steve would maul on is funny
No, it would only take one.
and saying one 616 steve would beat him is pathetic.
No, people who make ignorant arguments and statements about characters who they have virtually no knowledge on is pathetic.
Um not he doesn't.
Yes he does and there is so much evidence supporting he does its silly to say otherwise.
Likewise it just wouldn't make sense that cap with his mjolnir strikes could hurt thanos if he didn't have the powers of of Thor. Thor with mjolnir has hit people like hulk and they have been just fine taking mjolnir to the face from someone with thor's strength. We also have the fact Cap could lift stormbreaker which the Russo's claimed would require Thor level strength to wield.
When was that ever shown? Everytime Thanos got a good hit on him he was instantly knocked out.
I don't remember Thanos "instantly knocking out Steve" except that one scene he jumped on Thanos back but Thor was also knocked out in the same scene by Thanos. So it doesn't really prove anything.
And he needed Mjolnir to deal with those random ass fodders, if he had Thors stats then he wouldnt of needed it in that situation.
Not sure what scene your talking about. I just rewatched the final battle online and I never saw Cap get overwhelmed by fodder.
@king-ragnar: That was either a one-off or not actual dodging. It is unreasonable to assume people like Daredevil and Captain America can dodge lightning. If Rogers (MCU) tries to use lightning, it will definitely hit 616 Rogers and one shot him. Unless the former makes it obvious by creating clouds first, which would allow him to aim dodge. I'm not sure how 616 Steve is suppose to beat MCU Steve with Thor's stats.
@rebake: I was joking about one. One would get annihilated.
True, but if their stats were equalized and they fought bare handed, Cap would beat him into submission without too much trouble. Thor relies heavily on his physicals, lightning and weapons.
I don't see why one still wouldn't do it.
616 Cap would never bypass MCU Cap’s durability with Mjolnir.
There is no evidence to suggest that he got Thor's stats when he got Mjolnir.
uhh except you know, odin.....
All of them.
616 Rogers isn't hurting him.
616 will literally just catch the hammer and beat him with it
All of them.
616 Rogers isn't hurting him.
616 will literally just catch the hammer and beat him with it
Is he worthy of MCU Mjolnir though? We can assume it, but they are literally from different universes with different rules.
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