How Long Would IW Iron Man Last Against DCEU Doomsday?
@ezrael: tony would legitimately get two-shotted. He nearly died fighting thanos who has hulk level strength and durability. Doomsday is a full 2 tiers above him. Diana was the only one who was a legit threat to him only due to her stamina, skill, and the fact that she has a weapon that can actually hurt him. Tony has none of those.
1.) Thanos is above Hulk, you're not "on" someone's level when you no sell everything they have and kick their ass.
Yes he is. He has absolutely no strenth feats nor duribility feats putting him actually above hulks. he beat him because he had better skill. They’re still well in the same tier.
2.) All Tony has to do is fly and DD can't land anything on him, his attacks are slow enough that Bruce can aim dodge them.
Funny, superman is able to fly but doomsday overcame that advantage easily. tony has inferior everything.
3.) I never said he would beat DD I said he lasts longer than WW and he does.
He doesn’t. Get over it.
1.) except Hulk couldn't put him down, and Thanos beat him so bad the Hulk refused to come back out.
2.) Superman came at DD he didn't use his flight advantage.
3.) he does, get over it. WW is less durable, slower, and can't avoid DD.
No access to kryptonite and assuming he's in character? Minutes if he tries to unload from a distance, which turns into seconds after he inevitably tries to go for the up close and personal routine like he does every fight. The thing about the IW armor that nobody really seems to acknowledge is that when Tony's wearing it he can take big hits, but he can't *tank* them.Thanos and Cull Obsidian both are inferior to Doomsday all across the board and the hits they sent Tony's way on New York and Titan either briefly took him out of commission while the other Avengers/Guardians fought on or they left him completely helpless to follow up attacks that would've killed him had it not been for last minute assists. Doomsday was knocking Superman and WW on their @$$es multiple times without missing a beat and can easily drop Tony for minutes at a time via heat vision or AOE blasts that he'll keep letting off as his weapons keep powering him up.
Should be the other way around. Anyone who scales to Carol oneshots this fodder
Do you still think Main timeline Carol scales off What if Carol?
Less than 60 seconds. Thanos literally one shot him for most of the Titan fight and when it was one on one he slowly dismantled the armor in about a minute. Doomsday will shred him in half that time
@the_gaurdian: So he half shots him?
@goldeneagle: Not sure what that means but I guess.
Stark has too many ways to defeat doomsday, too much durability and it's too easy for him to dodge grey troll who couldn't tag old fat batman
@tankagetro: Ye cavetroll stands no chance!
@morghulis: So Iron man is below batman and Lois Lane in durability?
@morghulis: MCU wanker!
Always trying to lowball the DCEU etc. Lois lane & batman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron man. Seethe and cope
@power_hunter: Yes.
Don't you think that Country level Captain Marvel is inconsistent with the main timeline?
Stark has too many ways to defeat doomsday, too much durability and it's too easy for him to dodge grey troll who couldn't tag old fat batman
@power_hunter: no. She’s got other feats in that range:
-bloodlusted power stone punch
-flying through kree missiles
-being far more durable than Iron Man who can tank a MHS meteor
But even if it was inconsistent with main Carol, that by itself wouldn’t be reason to discount her feats since the Watcher states they’re branching timelines meaning they’re essentially the same character. I’d just treat her What If feats as high ends or outliers same as if she performed some universal stuff in Captain Marvel 2 inconsistent with Endgame or her solo film showings.
-flying through kree missiles
The missiles were destroyed, not detonated.
-bloodlusted power stone punch
And how durable does that make her exactly? It was stated by Gamora that the stone affects targets depending on its size, so it doesn't scale to what that Celestial did.
-being far more durable than Iron Man who can tank a MHS meteor
She no-sold Thanos' headbutts because she was amped by the stones. Iron Man tanking that meteor is City level, extremely far from Country level.
I’d just treat her What If feats as high ends or outliers same as if she performed some universal stuff in Captain Marvel 2 inconsistent with Endgame or her solo film showings.
Well, if the feats are too inconsistent, they are unusable.
@thevamphunter: by feats
Iron man took a meteor at entry speed and was fine
Iron Man took several hits from Thanos and the power Stone, both of which dwarf Doomsday on strength by feats
Iron Man as flight and long range weapons which allows him easily keep away from doomsday if he finds himself at a loss on close range
And his suit repairs itself at huge speeds
The only problem iron Man has, is that he can't put down DD due to his absorption abilities, and he doesn't have a BFR way to deal with it
Less than 60 seconds. Thanos literally one shot him for most of the Titan fight and when it was one on one he slowly dismantled the armor in about a minute. Doomsday will shred him in half that time
About as long as say, Hulk did against Thanos.
@kinglouie: The infinity gauntlet. Tony got of screened multiple times by attacks way weaker than what Doomsday dishes out
-flying through kree missiles
The missiles were destroyed, not detonated.
The explosion was still pretty big from Ronan's POV
-bloodlusted power stone punch
And how durable does that make her exactly? It was stated by Gamora that the stone affects targets depending on its size, so it doesn't scale to what that Celestial did.
That statement is debunked in every film post GOTG. Thor is hurt by direct contact with the stone, but not obliterated by the Statesman explosion despite the ship being much larger. GOTG are KO'd while Iron Man is melted despite being the same size.
It's most likely up to the will of the user, and given Thanos's desperation + bloodlusted state, Carol would've taken the max or close to max power of the stone - planetary+
-being far more durable than Iron Man who can tank a MHS meteor
She no-sold Thanos' headbutts because she was amped by the stones. Iron Man tanking that meteor is City level, extremely far from Country level.
Thanos hits Iron Man, pieces of his armor fly off, he hits Carol and she gets staggered. She is more durable than him. And the meteor is only city level if you use reentry speed, but it'd have to be much faster to cross the distance from the moon to Titan.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/My_desperate_attempt_to_save_the_MCU
I’d just treat her What If feats as high ends or outliers same as if she performed some universal stuff in Captain Marvel 2 inconsistent with Endgame or her solo film showings.
Well, if the feats are too inconsistent, they are unusable.
Yes, but only by virtue of being outliers, it being What If? has nothing to do with it
@the_gaurdian: Off screened does not mean anything.
The explosion was still pretty big from Ronan's POV
Do you have any calc or has anyone done a pixel scaling? That could be a good feat.
It's most likely up to the will of the user, and given Thanos's desperation + bloodlusted state, Carol would've taken the max or close to max power of the stone - planetary+
Well, that's a big statement. So you think Thor has planetary AP as he hurt Carol with his strikes?
Thanos hits Iron Man, pieces of his armor fly off, he hits Carol and she gets staggered.
When did that happen?
And the meteor is only city level if you use reentry speed, but it'd have to be much faster to cross the distance from the moon to Titan.
As you can see in the thread I linked, the calc you linked doesn't take the size disparity between Iron Man and the meteor into account. The original person that did the calc admitted he was wrong. Usually in VS Battles it's best to use the calc that has been accepted.
Do you have any calc or has anyone done a pixel scaling? That could be a good feat.
Well, that's a big statement. So you think Thor has planetary AP as he hurt Carol with his strikes?
Yes, scaling just off high ends.
When did that happen?
Hypothetically speaking. I think we can agree she remains intact if Thanos hits her.
As you can see in the thread I linked, the calc you linked doesn't take the size disparity between Iron Man and the meteor into account. The original person that did the calc admitted he was wrong. Usually in VS Battles it's best to use the calc that has been accepted.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Qawsedf234/MCU_-_Iron_Man_gets_hit_by_a_meteor
Based off the comments here, it looks like they accepted the roche limit calc from the original thread getting it at high 6-c.
I. The meteor was teleported to Titan, and the gravitational pull of the planet was clearly all over the place. Even Starlord emphasized this. In addition, the meteor was only the size of a building.
II. What makes Thanos a better striker than Doomsday? Even Faora, the weakest of the Kryptonians, ripped apart Kryptonian metal like nothing. Kryptonian metal can effortlessly no-sell re-entry. Not to mention that Doomsday is tiers above her. The Power Stone is unquantifiable, and Gamora stated that its attacks were targeted towards specific sizes. We can't determine how powerful the Power Stone attacks were.
III. Iron Man's long-range weapons will do nothing to Doomsday, and he slaughters Iron Man once he tags him. Iron Man consistently engages in H2H fights, as shown by his fights against Thanos.
IV. The suit may repair at fast speeds, but Tony himself will be knocked out from Doomsday's punches. This was clearly evident in EG when Tony was knocked out by Mjolnir. By the time Tony wakes up, Doomsday will already be finished destroying his suit and turning it into scrap metal.
Looks big, it's hard to quantify given that we don't really know how much of it Carol took but it does look small country sized.
Yes, scaling just off high ends.
And consistently? Have you thought of doing a post about Carol here? I would gladly read it.
Hypothetically speaking. I think we can agree she remains intact if Thanos hits her.
She no-sold his hit because she was amped by the gauntlet. We have never saw Thanos hitting her apart from that.
Based off the comments here, it looks like they accepted the roche limit calc from the original thread getting it at high 6-c.
Without knowing how big the moon and the planet are I think that using a low-end calc makes more sense.
In a random encounter he lasts longer than Diana but eventually loses. If he replaces Superman in BVS, he does better than Superman since he doesn't have the kryptonite weakness and FRIDAY will immediately inform him to get the spear
Batman was enough to attack DD and get him from Strykers Island to Gotham in the batjet. And good enough to avoid DD focusing 1vs 1 on him.
Doomsdays best feat is koing a weakened Superman. Diana and Clark were shrugging of his hits after that. Tony is a tier above Diana in everything except speed.
With the spear and Batemans kryptonite grenade he could solo
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