@ourmanuel: @iomegatempest: Also.. calculated by experts Thor withstood 2,649,929,890,000,000,000 (2.6 quintillion for short) joules of energy. Superman can't even dream of having that much power.??♂️
Carol can instantly blitz Superman from the start of the fight. After that, Thor kills Superman
The only impressive speed Superman really showed was that he was faster than Diana and Steppenwolf. Flash was far, far faster than Superman in combat, and Flash's speed isn't really quantifiable. From the Justice League vs Superman scene, it seems Superman is around mach 5 to 10 in combat
Thor:
Now, if we have Clark's speed at mach 5 (Probably is faster than that) Thor shouldn't have a problem perceiving him considering he perceived Quicksilver who is also mach 5
Even if Superman is faster than mach 5 (I think Superman is probably closer to mach 10) Thor has AOE attacks that can hit wide areas
And Thor can hit Superman with lightning from the sky casually almost instantly
Thor's cloak is also casually>>re-entry level, so it's likely it will stun Superman long enough for him to be tagged
Iron-Man:
Iron-man could casually react to mach 4.5 objects even in his first movie, so it's likely he can react to Superman eventually, especially when Clark is fighting multiple people at once. Iron-Man also has incredible regeneration, so even if Superman starts beating him down Iron-Man will survive multiple hits, which will give others time to hit Superman
Credit to @amcu for noticing this op durability feat for Iron-Man
You can see here Stark tanks a hammer throw from Cull Obsidian that sends him through a building
The building is incredibly far away
Here Iron-Man is hit by a massive meteor hitting him at re-entry speeds
These feats more than prove Iron-Man can survive multiple hits from Superman, and that should provide more than enough distraction for another member of the Avengers to tag Clark
Captain Marvel:
Carol is far stronger than Superman
Captain Marvel can also react to hypersonic attacks as well as likely blitzing at faster than light speeds, so Superman won't be able to react
I don't really need to mention any more Avengers here because it's obvious Iron-Man, Thor, and Captain Marvel could easily beat Superman
-Captain Marvel blitzes Superman
-Thor hits Clark with lightning or Stormbreaker after Captain Marvel stuns Superman
-Iron-Man is an extra very durable distraction if needed
@ourmanuel: @iomegatempest: Also.. calculated by experts Thor withstood 2,649,929,890,000,000,000 (2.6 quintillion for short) joules of energy. Superman can't even dream of having that much power.??♂️
also this .
thanos destroyed half the population of the entire universe and thor could pretty much one shot him for f. sake . clark dies .
@ourmanuel: @iomegatempest: Also.. calculated by experts Thor withstood 2,649,929,890,000,000,000 (2.6 quintillion for short) joules of energy. Superman can't even dream of having that much power.??♂️
@deutschkurzhaar: pointless headcanon. modern nukes of today are around 400kilotons so superman is able to withstand at least 1.6 quintillion joules
where are these calcs by "experts"???
watch some vids about nukes and power generated by some of the large asteroids , stars etc... maybe you would be able to understand that even the strongest nuke detonated in history of mankind (tsar bomb) is nothing compared to energy levels needed to destroy even a small moon .
>Planetary level+ MCU Thor-Nonsense, if youre going to say stupid things like this than you better have concrete evidence to back it up
>MCU Thor can perceive and tag Superman-Nonsense, if youre going to say stupid things like this than you better have concrete evidence to back it up
>IW Iron Man tanks a meteorite that was moving at reentry speeds and can tag Superman-Nonsense, if youre going to say stupid things like this than you better have concrete evidence to back it up
my response is only as insightful as your post ...
There's no need for me to post why he wins when there's dozens of post of why he wins. If you actually want me break it down on why he win by all means ask me.
>Planetary level+ MCU Thor-Nonsense, if youre going to say stupid things like this than you better have concrete evidence to back it up
>MCU Thor can perceive and tag Superman-Nonsense, if youre going to say stupid things like this than you better have concrete evidence to back it up
>IW Iron Man tanks a meteorite that was moving at reentry speeds and can tag Superman-Nonsense, if youre going to say stupid things like this than you better have concrete evidence to back it up
but.. the DCEU wank is insane!!!!! XD
MCU Thor are planet level / superman are nuke level.
cut beam of infinity stone 6 gem just 1 power gem can destroy planet.
superman get kill by nuclear if no solar sun he will die.
@martialartmastr: thor doesnt come anywhere close to superman in any category of speed. secondly, superman has been shown to have speed relative to lightning based on the clips that professional wanker @minlerdemon keeps spamming. thirdly, superman has tanked far more powerful blows than some electricity, he has tanked a fucking nuke while weakened with kryptonite
Lightning can't be outran, it's a contact between 2 points. lol It doesn't matter, if he stopped a nuke, 2 totally different things. lol
@subline: She can fly faster than light, so why can't she simply blitz Superman at FTL speeds? Superman will at the very least be stunned, then Thor hits him with Stormbreaker
@deutschkurzhaar: no idea how that guy got 1m K surface temperature when the average neutron start averages 600.000K surface temperature which massively throws his calc off. this star was stated to be dying or near the end of its life cycle several times in the said video so how can you assume that the start is near the peak of lumonisity? bad headcanon
@martialartmastr: your just wrong go back in this thread and look at the countless clips of superman and flash in slow motion. lightning is traveling at a set speed and superman/flash are relative to it
How exactly does energy durability mean anything when superman is gonna punch you to death? Star Feat is just wank to begin with.
No one in MCU is anywhere near his speed, and there is no evidence for any of them tanking his punches.
Thor might be Odin level now, but Odin got his eye destroyed in combat by beings far less powerful then Supes. Almost all of these people have been thrown across rooms by people with far less strength then Supes.
@iomegatempest: It was an approximation. And 600,000 K. Is just an average for all neutron stars. Not at all the hottest they can get. He’s approximating that Nidavellir is 1,000,000 K. Most likely because a dying is hotter than a stable star. (The closet and closer a star gets to dying it keeps getting hotter and hotter until it expands and eventually explodes. Since Nidavellir is a dying star and has been for manyyy years, it’s definitely hotter than the average stable neutron star as you looked up (being 600k K.) with all that said, I would say his approximation of Nidavellir being 1,000,000 K. is a very fair estimate since it’s impossible to know the actual heat of Nidavellir.
How exactly does energy durability mean anything when superman is gonna punch you to death
Statues. Heads explode.
sup can´t even generate enough power to beat thor to dead: thor is far too durable for that (sup barely tanked one nuke, thor is miles ahead of this feat in IW) , sup can only piss him off until thor has enough of it enters lightning god mod and destroys .
or simply : stormbreaker to the chest = sup dies .
@deutschkurzhaar: yes, the average neutron star's surface temperature is 600,000K but it was mentioned several times in the video that the star is dying/decaying. you cant be fucking serious trying to say that dying stars get hotter as they age. thats literally not the case as dying stars begin to form heavier elements which reduces hydrogen fusion.. etc etc. why the fuck do you think our star has been cooling overtime? according to https://www.astro.umd.edu/~miller/nstar.html neutron stars are some of the most rapidly cooling stars out there so there is absolute 0 reason to suspect that they got hotter overtime. you actually just made that up
that being said the calcs in the video are wildly off and are once again bad headcanon
How exactly does energy durability mean anything when superman is gonna punch you to death
Statues. Heads explode.
sup can´t even generate enough power to beat thor to dead: thor is far too durable for that (sup barely tanked one nuke, thor is miles ahead of this feat in IW) ,
sup can only piss him off until thor has enough of it enters lightning god mod and destroys .
or simply : stormbreaker to the chest = sup dies .
Again, energy =/= physical. Pretty basic stuff.
Stormbreaker wont even touch supes. Thor is slow as balls. Also, it didn't even kill Thanos. luls
@Aristeaus: Your literally saying Superman’s punches deal more damage than a dying star. Smh??♂️It doesn’t matter if it’s different energy it’s still physical damage
@iomegatempest: you must not know what a star is..??♂️ Jesus. Do some research, dying stars only get hotter and hotter as they die. That’s why they explode ??♂️
@iomegatempest: ughhh.. yea.. I’d hope thanos is able to hurt Thor without a weapon, and especially when Thor was in absolutely terrible condition from his previous fight with Hela??♂️
Again ill send you this you this even though you already read it. That Thor was in terrible condition. Stop playing ring around the rosy and look at the facts.
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