korra starts in base form; sypha is bloodlusted; korra in-character
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@tektonic: @vengefulshot - the debate was regarding their accomplishments, not about what occurred due to lack of inaction. It’s true, Aang ran off and because he was not around, this allowed the fire nation to become the dominant force in the world. This shows, if anything, a character flaw with Aang as someone the world depends on. However, we need to look at intent/causation: Aang didn’t intend to get frozen for 100yrs.
Who cares? Aang overheard the council saying the fire nation was probably going to attack them, and he ran away - ergo he ignored the danger they were in, which was devastating.
In my argument, I stated facts: Korra did not directly cause the re-emergence of air benders, for example.
And? Her accomplishment was the events surrounding that.
Her intent was the opposite in fact: she wanted the portals sealed during harmonic convergence.
Which was the logical choice, rather than risk Vaatu being free and merging. However when she disposed of Unalaq and Vaatu she chose to keep them open.
While Aang was in fact a founder of republic city with zuko.
That happened decades later. Korra saved that same city not once, not twice, not even three times, but four, protecting Aang's legacy.
Just like Korra beat a giant, merged Unalak, Aang beat the fire lord during the day of the comet.
These two aren't even comparable, Unavaatu was the most powerful spirit of all time, and threatened the planet. Ozai is a joke compared to him. Also Aang refused to kill Ozai to save a continent of people, he was bailed out by the plot rock that activated the avatar state. Otherwise he would be dead, along with the rest of the Earth Kingdom. There's nothing Aang accomplished in his lifetime that tops that or comes close.
Both of these are facts.
You threw in generic trivia points with nonsense, and a sham conclusion.
The logic I utilized while I looked at their accomplishments was applied across the board, how does that make me a “Korra hater?” I argued that Aang was more accomplished, stated the reasons why, and argued as to why Korra’s accomplishments were lesser.
I left the contributions of both “team avatars” out of the argument. It’s a debate, of course I am going to favor one side, the person I was debating presented their arguments for Korra yet you don’t see me calling them an “Aang hater.”
Don't play the victim. All of this:
Korra, in my opinion, is one of the worst Avatars. We’ve seen that she takes a long time to recover from trauma (physically and psychologically), and that her temperament prevents her from utilizing strategy in a fight. I would assume that Korra never developed the patience, or had the training, to learn how to redirect lighting. Despite being the Avatar, I think Sypha’s attacks are more varied and she is can keep a cool head during battles. I would give this to Sypha, all rounds.
I think she is one of the least-accomplished avatars, in terms of impact on the world. A lot of the situations that arose (combining of spirit and physical world, revival/creation of new airbenders) were not a direct result of air actions, but instead they were crises she had to address. She was able to stop the Earth Nation under Kuvira. However, the fire nation already had other nations under their dominion when Aang was avatar, so he had muc more of an uphill battle. Now, one-on-one accomplishments, I think Korra is even worse. As noted above, her recovery from psychological trauma caused her to lose to opponents that shouldn’t have stood a chance against her.
she didn’t bring back the air nation. As I mentioned before, that was not a direct result of intended actions. Remember, everything was thrown off balance: both portals were open during the harmonic convergence, causing the worlds to “merge.” Korra was forced to open one of the portals because Unalak had threatened to harm a hostage (one of the air bender kids, I forget which one). Korra actually did not want the portals open during the harmonic convergence, because it would allow Vaatu to break free. The resulting chaos/energy released caused people to receive air bending.
She brokered the peace between the water tribes: Aang saved the water tribes. They were under raids and oppression by the fire nation, as was the earth nation. Shoot in season one, he fought off a direct attack by the fire nation with the water tribe. Republic City, where a lot of the adventures of Korra take place, was founded by Aang and Zuko.
Proves your a Korra hater.
1. Shaming Korra for having a traumatic experience, that no other Avatar or character went through, makes no sense. It's incredibly realistic and good writing to have a long standing reaction to it. Showcasing the impact of storylines to give them more weight. We know she isn't mentally weak, given she persevered, through the Equalist Revolution, and Harmonic Convergence.
And why are you mocking her mental health struggles? It's called character development and addressed a real life issue. Especially when you have no character who went through the psychological and physical torture she did in Venom of the Red Lotus.
Avatar Kuruk also struggled with depression for the later part of his life.
Funny that it's only okay when Zuko has an arc about his suffering and angst when he went through nothing comparable. Or Aang not even having one in general, literally flirting with Katara a scene after finding out his people were all killed. Sick.
2. In regards to accomplishments:
By your logic, Aang actually caused the war by fleeing than quote on quote had a "crisis to address". Difference is he only barely stopped the fire nation. Korra stopped the complex Equalist Revolution, Stopped the Northern Invasion of the South, Prevented 10,000 years of Darkness, Helped defeat the Red Lotus, and Defeated the Earth Empire. And she's only getting started.
Also Aang didn't save the Northern Water Tribe, that's a misconception. His past lives possessed him when all hope was lost and merged with La. Aang made no conscious decision to do anything, and wouldn't even master the avatar state until much later.
Who cares who founded the city? That takes nothing , compared to saving it from four disasters.
3. Korra is strategic use her bending in all sorts of ways.
Whew
I haven't seen this much bad blood since Hama discovered bloodbending
Ba-dum tsss
Or since Korra (waterbending) vs Azula....
@tektonic: Why is our girl always the center of controversy 😫
Greatness inspires envy after all.
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