How in the world does MCU Carol put down DCEU Supes?

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I see that sentiment a lot in battle threads were they are involved and I just want someone to explain to me how she beats Supes?

I just feel like Carols best feat was tanking a Thanos headbutt, but other than that I don’t see how she is supposed to put down Supes based on who he’s went toe to toe with and survived, and I think he stomps her.

IMO Wonder Woman & Faora>Carol and obviously Supes>WW & Faora so I just don’t see it.

To those who disagree, Enlighten me, I come in peace.

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She literally didn't even budge from the headbutt.

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She doesn't have a viable way. Hes far more durable than thanos and carol. I still think the headbutt thing was because of her relationship and close proximity to the space gem

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@getsugatenshoha: She breaks his neck she is stronger than him physically or she could wear him down physically in a fight. Her blast could also do some damage. Carol has better physicals than he does.

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@getsugatenshoha: The missle feat is better than anything Superman has done. Carol has better physicals and she is a better fighter she can over power him and snap his neck.

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#7  Edited By HERMES1220

She doesn’t. She has no damage output feats that suggest she can. She doesn’t even hit as hard as lightning amped Thor. Her attacks were eaten by Thanos with no problem. The issue is that she has doesn’t have feats against established characters.

I honestly don’t know how people come to the conclusion that she puts down Zod, Thor, Nam-Ek, Faora, Diana, Hulk, or even Aquaman. Other than the fact that her power levels suggest she should and statements that aren’t backed up by showings but she has no feats to suggest she can. She’s a bulldozer but not very viable in actual fights besides her durability and flight ig. All the high tiers in the MCU and DCEU hit harder than her.

Still my second favorite character though.

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Yeah, strength is useless in fights if your striking is shit. Unless Carol is gonna grapple the whole fight she can't come close to overpowering Clark.

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She loses in a fight due to speed, but personally I don't really see why her bullrushes can't hurt Clark.

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She neck snaps him if he goes for a grapple. LOL at Faora or Diana being above or even the same tier as Carol. Add Nam Ek and she still stomps them to the ground

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@getsugatenshoha: She breaks his neck she is stronger than him physically or she could wear him down physically in a fight. Her blast could also do some damage. Carol has better physicals than he does.

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She can't put down Clark.

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She can break his neck or ko him with her blasts. She is clearly stronger and more durable to blunt force

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#14  Edited By Bearderby

she can't, her feats are wasn't enough to match Post JL Sups.

unless she bullrushes him in light speed/travel speed which is probably restricted in combat because of PIS.

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In a straight up fight, sure Superman will win. It'd be stupid to assume that Carol can't put down Clark.

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#17 Sup3rn0va  Online

Does Superman have any neck feats?

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She doesn't?

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Superman would win

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@amcu said:

She loses in a fight due to speed, but personally I don't really see why her bullrushes can't hurt Clark.

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She is stronger, faster and more durable. There. You are asking an easy question my friend.

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She can't put him down at all, to be honest. His durability is already above her pay grade, and then she still has to overcome his healing factor on top of that... Just no.

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#23 MattyBoi  Online

Tbh Clark cant really harm her.

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Aside from bullrushing like she does to the ships she’s taken down, she doesn’t have the damage output to seriously harm him tbh.

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#25  Edited By Azazelthunder07

She faster than him.

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She can’t. Lol Supes kills her. The only Kryptonian she can beat is Namek

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She can't, no high tier in the MCU has the feats to compete with DCEU high tiers for anyone with functional eyes and ears.

People will say otherwise because they want to bullshit them into being somehow competitive with characters that can break tens of thousands of tons of rock on accident, vaporize thousands of tons of rock, rip through a shit load of metal that's ridiculously more durable than anything in real life while weakened and under a gravity beam, either survive or tank a nuke, or lift an island into existence while they're dying.

Almost none of these are feats are wishy-washy unprovable shit like Sokovia or the neutron star, most of them aren't even done when the characters at their max power.

They don't even need super speed to stomp MCU characters because of how weak they are by comparison.

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Not seeing how she can't just bullrush him and kill him. Her feats are way better than his.

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I'd thinks she'd do it with her fists or energy, pretty simple, but you never know what people on CV can come up with.

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By punching him?

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Her bull rushes are better than his and her durability higher than Thanks.

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#32  Edited By TakenStew22

She can't. She's weaker than Thanos who Superman can also beat.

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@mrtrey said:

She can't, no high tier in the MCU has the feats to compete with DCEU high tiers for anyone with functional eyes and ears.

They're two different universes with different styles. You can't use visuals as a standard, by that logic Superman punches harder than the Thing because of mach cones and distance

People will say otherwise because they want to bullshit them into being somehow competitive with characters that can break tens of thousands of tons of rock on accident,

It's not like he tapped it and it broke. It was an accidental bullrush as he was experimenting flight

vaporize thousands of tons of rock,

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rip through a shit load of metal that's ridiculously more durable than anything in real life while weakened and under a gravity beam,

He hit the core and flew out, the explosion afterwards destroyed it. Increased gravity hardly means anything to high tiers

either survive or tank a nuke,

Thor took a nuke+ explosion to the face without a scratch. Only briefly KO'd unlike Superman who was withered and needed sunlight. Not to mention taking the power stone right against his face, which melts Iron Man's armor and planetbusts with a tap

or lift an island into existence while they're dying.

Thanos ripped a moon in half and Surtur vaporized Asgard, which is much larger than Themysciria. Odin is also above Surtur

Almost none of these are feats are wishy-washy unprovable shit like Sokovia or the neutron star, most of them aren't even done when the characters at their max power.

Anyway you look at it, the star, the snap, and Sokovia are above 3 megaton nukes, the best feat for Doomsday and Superman.

They don't even need super speed to stomp MCU characters because of how weak they are by comparison.

Not really. Superman's best feats come with speed. Has he done anything comparable to the Leviathan punch or denting a vibranium wall without sped? Has he done anything comparable to Thanos crushing Vision's skull with his fingers? Wonder Woman without speed is a joke and gets fodderized by War Machine. Honestly, only speed equalized Doomsday is worth arguing against Stormbreaker Thor or Sword Thanos. Everyone else gets fodderized by skill, strength, or versatility.

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She can't.

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I accept your concession :)

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Carol has more than enough striking feats to be able to put Superman down and she has better physical strength comparable if not better durability and much better skill energy projection.

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#39  Edited By Olubummo

LOL, someone said Carol is faster than Clark. Carol might be faster in Travel Speed, but she does not have Combat Speed.

This MCU wank is getting out of hand, it is becoming another thing, when will some people understand that there is a difference between Travel Speed and Combat Speed.

Carol doesn't have the Combat Speed to contend with Superman, superman will beat the shit outta carol!!!

Read only my post, maybe you will get one or two understanding, go here:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cw-zoom-vs-everyone-from-endgame-2036733/?page=3

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@olubummo said:

LOL, someone said Carol is faster than Clark. Carol might be faster in Travel Speed, but she does not have Combat Speed.

This MCU wank is getting out of hand, it is becoming another thing, when will some people understand that there is a difference between Travel Speed and Combat Speed.

Carol doesn't have Combat Speed to contend with Superman, superman will beat the shit outta carol!!!

Read only my post, maybe you will get one or two understanding, go here:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/cw-zoom-vs-everyone-from-endgame-2036733/?page=3

Right, because combat speed REEEEALY helped supes against Doomsday. I mean...doomsday must have been a statue to superman. Doomsday never ever landed a hit on supes. I mean...oh wait

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@wardevil: Doomsday has higher durability and is decently fast.

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@supermanfan1938: His durability has nothing to do with tagging and pummeling supes. Also, Doomsday couldn't tag Batman..... ..... just sayin

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@wardevil said:

@supermanfan1938: His durability has nothing to do with tagging and pummeling supes. Also, Doomsday couldn't tag Batman..... ..... just sayin

We both know that's PIS no way can Batman realistically dodge heat vision lol

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#44  Edited By Cruelrain

The only thing that Superman has against her it's his "combat speed" because Marvel sucks at it

Carol is stronger physically, has better durability (she tanked headbutt from Thanos like nothing also she breaks all those ships like nothing as well) also she's faster him in travel speed

Also if we are going with her story, she should be a better fighter than him cause she's been around for years

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@hawkman25: Never the less...Hulk speed Doomsday was able to catch, tag, and toss Supes around. His combat speed isn't as effective against those around his power level.

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@wardevil: the fact that he was able to tag, catch and toss clark makes him alot more faster than hulk. Hell dude can punch faster than the speed of sound.

Hulk speed my ass, dude couldn't even catch thor. Next thing you'll say is thor speed zod

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@DammeFavour: Hulk did catch Thor. Hulk has high stats but low skill. Thor outclasses Hulk in skill by a lot.

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#48  Edited By FinalKingThanos

Supes has more striking feats and the JL statue feats going for him but she appears even or even more physically impressive in every other regard.

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Statues can't fight back

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