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#1 Posted by Lsoon23 (441 posts) - - Show Bio

https://manamoa.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=manga&wr_id=1276841

feat is towards the end of the chapter, Meliodas moves around 15 feet or so and has a scuffle seemingly before Lightning can even move a couple meters.

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#2 Posted by mevbi (506 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty fast

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#3 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8519 posts) - - Show Bio

Quantifiably at least solidly into the quad digit machs, seeing as to how lightning was statued in comparison to both their movements and the shockwaves of said movements. That being said, I've seen calculations that put it at quint digit mach, or even relativistic, based on the fact that all of the scans suggest lightning didn't even move a few centimetres.

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#4 Posted by ourmanuel (12318 posts) - - Show Bio

Quad Mach-Sub rel

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#6 Posted by GXrevs06 (4931 posts) - - Show Bio

Quantifiably at least solidly into the quad digit machs, seeing as to how lightning was statued in comparison to both their movements and the shockwaves of said movements. That being said, I've seen calculations that put it at quint digit mach, or even relativistic, based on the fact that all of the scans suggest lightning didn't even move a few centimetres.

Also bear in mind that Mel was in his base. He is neither using his usual demon mark or DK form

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#7 Posted by ourmanuel (12318 posts) - - Show Bio

And that^

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#8 Posted by frostplatinum (527 posts) - - Show Bio

Athlete level

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#9 Edited by Djibbo__ (880 posts) - - Show Bio

extrimely low sub rel, but let’s wait, I bet we are gonna get some new feats more impressive

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#10 Posted by KingZod (4129 posts) - - Show Bio

Quad mach

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#11 Posted by GXrevs06 (4931 posts) - - Show Bio

Curious. Why is this impressive? Mel was already a lightning timer at the beginning of the manga

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#12 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8519 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevs06: Because this feat is way beyond baseline lightning timing, probably.

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#13 Edited by ovy7 (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

MHS+(quad mach), but it would have been easier to quantify if the scans were more clearer on how far the lightning advanced (in the first scan the lightning is actually closer to them than in the other scans, but that's more of a author inconsistency).

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#14 Posted by AlphaQ (6486 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless I’m missing something, about lightning speed, give or take.

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#15 Posted by SkySanji (5396 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevs06 said:
@hittheassasin said:

Quantifiably at least solidly into the quad digit machs, seeing as to how lightning was statued in comparison to both their movements and the shockwaves of said movements. That being said, I've seen calculations that put it at quint digit mach, or even relativistic, based on the fact that all of the scans suggest lightning didn't even move a few centimetres.

Also bear in mind that Mel was in his base. He is neither using his usual demon mark or DK form

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#16 Posted by Gaoron (9233 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally a speed feat for NNT, neat. It's high end triple digit mach or very low quad digit one, not yet sub-relativistic tho.

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#17 Edited by Token1300 (372 posts) - - Show Bio

Massively Hypersonic. He’s lightning timer still not close to LS or relativistic. Higher forms should make him faster tho.

And another manga trying to do the Naruto vs Sasuke valley of the end thing lol what’s next give him a timeskip and 2 kids ? Mel is such a Naruto cop out.

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#18 Posted by Sy8000 (35758 posts) - - Show Bio

4 digit mach. Suggesting the lightning didnt even move a centimeter is a bit much when we could never say that for sure.

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#19 Posted by FaradaySloth (10761 posts) - - Show Bio

Still MHS in my eyes, but maybe low quad mach (low MHS+)

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#20 Posted by silentNightz (801 posts) - - Show Bio

Outpaced lightning by a long shot, def quad-digit Mach. Can’t wait to see where things lead afterwards

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#21 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (3917 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely at least quad mach and Mel did this in base.

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#22 Posted by BrainDrain (706 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevs06: @ovy7: @skysanji: @sy8000: @worldofruin6: @hittheassasin:I'll take it from here Madame's, I'm a Nardowanker but bear with me:

Assuming mach 300, which is 224,100MPH which is also 328,680 FPS, I cant justify the Centimeter claim(though it should be mentioned Nakaba draws odd angles alot) however claiming it didnt move more than a foot is plenty justifiable.

So the full sequence would have happened in 328 thousandths of a second. Gonna say DK is at most 20 ft from mel as they traded blows, 20ft/328,680th second is 6,573,600 FPS/ 4,482,000 MPH or mach 6000 exactly.

Now that's Godtier....he might beat Madara or Hashirama more soundly now.

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#23 Posted by Lsoon23 (441 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8519 posts) - - Show Bio
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#26 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (3917 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by deactivated-5d065fa72d466 (2222 posts) - - Show Bio

Relativistic Meliodas lmao

This made my day.

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#28 Posted by Mister_Stark (1532 posts) - - Show Bio

Well it's multiple times faster than lightning so I'll say 2x-5x lightning speed maybe

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#29 Posted by Oraculi (3985 posts) - - Show Bio

If Meliodas can be considered sub-relativistic based on this feat then so can Fox Jean Grey who statued it just as easily.

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#30 Posted by Mister_Stark (1532 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi: She wasn't running around at this speed that would be a reaction feat for her.

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#31 Posted by Oraculi (3985 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi: She wasn't running around at this speed that would be a reaction feat for her.

She doesn't have to run around, her tk is doing all the movement and she was already faster enough to lift her arm up and deflect it away.

Combat/Reaction speed>>>>Movement speed anyway so pointless to try and downplay it as "reaction feat"

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#32 Posted by UltimateSage (3762 posts) - - Show Bio

Should easily be FTL

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#33 Posted by Mister_Stark (1532 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi: running around a fighting is what Mel did it's combat speed. Jean did not.

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#34 Edited by Lsoon23 (441 posts) - - Show Bio

@weebbicboi: Not saying the calc is legit, but its still easily a quad digit mach feat at least.

that calc has him at 1/2 SOL though lmao, and that was base. Demon Mark is a 2x amp, Demon King form is another amp.

FTL Meliodas I guess.

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#35 Posted by Oraculi (3985 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi: running around a fighting is what Mel did it's combat speed. Jean did not.

So?

She moved her arm just as fast as Mel moved away from lightning.

I'd argue hers is better since she waited till it was only inches away from her before deflecting.

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#36 Posted by Kalebsmarty156 (2617 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi: What does Jean have to do with this?

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#37 Posted by Oraculi (3985 posts) - - Show Bio

@kalebsmarty156: People wouldn't accept Jean being that fast despite having a comparable feat so why would Meliodas be accepted as sub real?

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#38 Posted by Kalebsmarty156 (2617 posts) - - Show Bio
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#39 Posted by ThousandSteps (226 posts) - - Show Bio

I’m just happy Mel won’t need to rely on a BoS feat anymore.

By default, Ban should also be at those speeds.

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#40 Posted by Oraculi (3985 posts) - - Show Bio
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#41 Posted by deactivated-5d065fa72d466 (2222 posts) - - Show Bio

@lsoon23: You're making my day better and better. Thank you, dear Lsoon.

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#42 Posted by Kalebsmarty156 (2617 posts) - - Show Bio
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#43 Posted by BrainDrain (706 posts) - - Show Bio

@lsoon23: half LS? That's a bit wankfilled.......if Mel was moving anywhere close to that he'd accomplish much more even using inches for my basic calc (my yield x 12) its mach 72k using centimeters (x30) would be mach 180k which is around a 4th the SoL.

I'm not sure how that can be a conclusion.

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#44 Edited by Gaoron (9233 posts) - - Show Bio

I’m just happy Mel won’t need to rely on a BoS feat anymore.

Yep yep

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#45 Edited by BrainDrain (706 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi said:

@kalebsmarty156: People wouldn't accept Jean being that fast despite having a comparable feat so why would Meliodas be accepted as sub real?

Jean didnt make any physical movement, and having quad digit mach processing speeds isnt impressive at all. Blitzing someone and trading blows while lightning is moving in slow motion is much more impressive.

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#46 Posted by Oraculi (3985 posts) - - Show Bio

@braindrain: She did make physical movement, she moved her arms twice.

Who needs to run around in circles when you can use your powers with hundreds of meters of range with out having to move from position and still be just as fast?

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#47 Posted by Mister_Stark (1532 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi: moving a single limb isn't enough, look at Naruto he moves his whole upper body before LF hits him but he's not considered LS combat speed.

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#48 Posted by Oraculi (3985 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi: moving a single limb isn't enough, look at Naruto he moves his whole upper body before LF hits him but he's not considered LS combat speed.

He isn't considered LS because people still debate if that attack was LS in the first place and if he actually dodged it or aim dodged it.

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#49 Posted by BrainDrain (706 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi said:

@braindrain: She did make physical movement, she moved her arms twice.

So? How does this compare to blitzing, trading multiple blows And activating abilities all in that same timeframe?

Who needs to run around in circles when you can use your powers with hundreds of meters of range with out having to move from position and still be just as fast?

Which is again solely thought processing speed, which isnt impressive at this level. In order for Meliodas and DK to be fightining in that timeframe they would have much better processing and combat speed feats.

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#50 Posted by Mister_Stark (1532 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi: Those people are ignorant because the anime.proces them wrong.