how fast do you think this form is he could easily dodge attacks from snake man
how fast is dragon form kaido
@dusk69: probably most authors don't even think of ftl shit that applies to naruto too
FTL+
As many has said, FTL.
like 210km/hr
only right answer sadly
No one in one piece can travel at light speed forget about ftl. If they were ftl the one piece would have already been found out by someone years ago. They all have ftl reaction speed.
generously
No one in one piece can travel at light speed forget about ftl. If they were ftl the one piece would have already been found out by someone years ago. They all have ftl reaction speed.
Kizaru exists.. y’know?
@darknessdevil: @dusk69: good to see some with a shred of sense.
People need to stop w*nking to high heaven and actually consider feats against the lore/worldbuilding. If the average ninja in Naruto could fight/travel at MHS speeds, the last Shinobi war would have ended in under 24 hours.
And if dragon Kaido were anywhere near LS, he could explore the whole world in about an hour.
Attack speed: Relativistic +
Travel speed: Idk, but definitely nowhere near LS, otherwise the OP would've been found decades ago.
@eredin12: Kaido could travel Wano landmass which is Continental in size with little time. You can also scale his traveling speed from his Island as he uses the same flame clouds to fly that carries and move his island, which has also shown crossing Wano in little time. So MHS fast.
Combat speed is definitely FTL, sustained travel speed wise probably some degree of high MHS.
Also the "if they were this fast, X would have happened" arguments are pretty dumb, for any verse. The 4th Shinobi War in Naruto didn't end in under 24 hours because, well, it's not 1 MHS dude blitzing everyone instantly, everyone fights at those speeds, it's all relative. Toriko has MFTL characters yet their final war arc took the better part of a day.
And the "OP would have been found" argument is even worse. It hasn't been found because, well, no one even knows where it is (duh). But not surprising considering the people still spouting such nonsense lol.
All the haters showing up with their anti-LS rants. Why don't you take that to this thread and have a real debate: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/one-piece-is-ls-2241967/
Otherwise, this is a MFTL feat via scaling from previous feats.
@darknessdevil: most people don't even know what the one piece is and where it is speed is not enough
also kizaru exist, kuma germa tech alot of light speed conformations exists
@hydratedfubuki6: Only real answer
But BM is slow as fuck,not a surprise
I'll be the ones to post scans I guess.
Raid Suits stated to be light speed in manga and guide here.
(Also stated to be LS in anime in Sanji scene but but above should be good enough) Explicitly stated more then once.
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Katakuri blitzed and dodged point blank speed of Raid Suit
So this already puts Katakuri FTL through direct feats (FTL+ if we go off Luffy's Gears)
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Luffy Snakeman and Katakuri go all out and match each other in speed
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Considering, Luffy's Wano Rooftop base is at least faster then his previous Bound Man, restacking the multiple Gears which are all explicitly stated or shown to enhance his speed puts Snakeman well into FTL+ Ranges.
You could get even more outrageous then this with Kuma clones/Kizaru light being called slow by base Luffy beggining of Skip but I don't need to go there.
FTL, wankwise FTL+.
But seriously they are barely faster than light, barely. The wank of OP here is Godtier.
@wushu59: u shown an ls attack not a raid suit being stated ls
@wushu59: This doesn't make Kata FTL.
@wushu59: u shown an ls attack not a raid suit being stated ls
It's from the same Germa Tech and is light based and translates to "Light Plasma" if you actually do your research.
Katakuri can dodge and blitz his attacks from a point blank distance. (Which i already posted)
- Vinsnokes including Nijii defeated and captured by Big Mom pirates and Katakuri is obviously not slower then Niji. This is grasping at straw here.
Raid Suits in general accelerate to speed of light stated by anime
And if you want to go back further then that, Luffy calls Kizaru's light beams "slow" in his base form.
His Gears up the Snakeman in Whole Cake get him minimum of x30 times faster low balled as much as possible from his base. Which Katakuri was able to keep up with in speed.
Base Kaido tagged a masisvely superior version of base Luffy post Udon training using Future Sight. (Luffy's Udon Base is faster then his previous Gear 4th Bound Man through direct feats which is not even need to get him casually FTL+ in combat I the first place)
@wushu59: This doesn't make Kata FTL.
Katakuri blitzed his attack at point blank range. Direct combat with Gear 4th Snakeman Luffy automically puts him above FTL. Insanely stupid to think Kat is slower then Niji. (All of the Vinsmokes are matched by lower ranking genrals then Katakuri and are captured)
@wushu59: Kata has future sight, so reacting to the attack you posted wouldn't make him FTL. Also, the attack you posted isn't the same attack shown in the statement you used. Lastly, those beams Luffy dodged aren't LS.
MFTL.
Weaker characters are FTL (Like Katakuri) and even weaker characters to them are FTL (Like Nijii)
So yeah, for Kaido to clown them all with one-shots, beat a significantly stronger/faster Snakeman Luffy than the one that Katakuri fought, he has to be MFTL.
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