How far does Natsu and Meliodas get in HST? (Bleach/Naruto/One Piece)

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#1  Edited By Wushu59

Title.

How far does each one get individually in each series?

Strongest character each could beat from each respective verse

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#2  Edited By Wushu59

Bonus Question.

How far does Natsu get in NNT

How far does Meliodas get in Fairy Tail

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If we take Peak meliodas in the form that broke the curse who was stated to have power equal to the demon king then i would say.

Naruto: beats juubito, but dies to any so6p character and above

Bleach: stops at any top captain or sternritter

One piece: most likely clears, especially if energy's are equal full counter, counter vanish, hellblaze and destructor magic wins it for him.

Have not read fairytail since the main manga ended.

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Melidoas stomps

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Meliodas dies to Juubito. Natsu dies to Juubito.

In Bleach, he stops at any top tier captain, anything above curbs Meliodas. Natsu dies to majority of the Espada.

In one piece, Meliodas gets stomped by any Admiral, doesn't even remotely compare in speed to the verse and his raw power is surpassed by many. Natsu dies at any Admiral as well.

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Naruto: BSM Naruto for both

Bleach: Some top tier TYBW Captain

OP: Current Luffy or at best an Admiral

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@ssjbatdan: solo god is above so6p characters u should know this bro.

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@pics: People really downplay nnt. I put meliodas high cuz of hax, full counter, hellblaze and destructor magic are some hax stuff.

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They both die to juubito.

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Naruto: BSM Naruto

Bleach: Dangai i guess.

One piece: Post-TS Luffy.

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@theonly1 said:

@ssjbatdan: solo god is above so6p characters u should know this bro.

Ah, okay. =P

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Dk/awakened mel

R.1. Naruto: Gets to juubito, then only takes 2-3/10.

R.2. Bleach: Gets to the god tiers, yhwach spites.

R.3. One piece: stops at kizaru due to logia, clears the rest of the verse.

R.4. Fairy tail: clears the verse. Full counter or the ruler for magic, plus he has superior stats in every category. Plus sealing and curse application and removal for zeref.

Am mel

R.1. Naruto: Makes it to rennegan madara, maybe passes for a spite match with the juubi.

R.2. Bleach: makes it to tybw kenpachi

R.3. one piece: loses to luffy or an admiral

R.4. Fairy tail: Makes it to pre RoT acno

Current natsu.

R.1. Naruto: rennegan madara seems realistic

R.2. Bleach: some tybw decent captain

R.3. One piece: might stop at zoro due to fire cutting and ema's cutting power. Law would also hax him more times than not. The strongest he could fight is an admiral though.

R.4. SDS: could fail to the commandments due to their hax list. Indra forms would also cause trouble. The strongest would be the archangels though. The two weaker ones or ludiciel would be fair. Mael has him beat in heat and dc, stacked on top of the speed gap. Wins precisely 0/10 against sunshine mael.

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#15  Edited By EpicHotFlame

Naruto: Both stops at war arc BSM Naruto

Bleach: both stops at Dangai Ichigo

One-piece: both stops at Admirals

Fair tail: Mel clears due to superior speed and output.

SDS: Natsu stops at their god tiers

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In terms of strength Mel is comparable to 50% Kurama but in a fight he has good chances against BSM with Full Counter.

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Before we can answer this question we must know the abilities and general power these characters have.

Meliodas is a very versatile fighter, far more so than the main characters of the Big 3. Meliodas fights with Lostvayne clones that all can also use the powers he has at the same time. Meliodas sports Full Counter, an ability which can reflect back any magical attack at more than 2x the original power. Meaning that if Naruto were to use a bijuudama, he would get hit by his own attack at more than 2x the original power. Full Counter has shown the ability to basically reflect any elemental attack from earth to darkness itself, but it was also shown negating powerful hax in the form of King's Disaster: Status Promotion. Meliodas also sports the ability to use Vanish Counter which makes all enemy abilities vanish instead of countering, and Revenge Counter which attacks the enemy with all the power that Meliodas has been attacked with to that point in time. For example is he gets hit by 10 mountain busting attacks throughout the battle, Revenge Counter attacks the enemy with that level of power. Furthermore, Meliodas is immortal to aging and general death and he's a demon meaning that he has the power of darkness (healing, piecing body parts, powerful sealing) and he also has hellblaze, which is like amaterasu but more versatile. Meliodas is strong enough to full counter explosions the size of Britannia itself, and he can move so fast that lightning seems slow/unmoving.

Natsu is the strongest dragon-slayer with immunity to any fire ability. Natsu tends to fight both h2h and long-range, and he gets stronger from eating fire or heat, and he can even absorb lightning to power up. Natsu's flames are so hot he immediately vaporised a lake and his maximum attack power is equivalent to attacks that destroy countries. Natsu's attacks are powerful enough to out-punch high tier hax out of people, as shown when Natsu punched Fairy Heart out of White Mage Zeref. Fairy Heart has infinite power and can transcend time, ex. he can travel to the past through a gate to make the world collapse, or he can rewind time to negate himself from being completely vaporised. Natsu's punch can defeat a being like that.

Natsu

Bleach: Natsu's h2h fighting style means he would get killed by Barragan's Respira. If Natsu fights smarter, with his raw fighting style he might even get up to Lille Barro.

Naruto: Gets to Juubito. Hashirama doesn't have firepower to kill Natsu, but he could probably bind him. Problem is that Natsu can just snipe Hashirama with his fire-lightning breath attacks. Against Juubito Natsu still needs more feats.

One Piece: Kaido might be the most powerful, but Natsu being a dragon slayer should be able to hurt him. So maybe stop at other Yonko.

Nanatsu no Taizai: Demon King since Ruler is hard to bypass.

Meliodas

Bleach: Yhwach.

Naruto: Kaguya.

One Piece: Roger.

Fairy Tail: Maybe Moon dragon god.

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^Lmao.

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#20  Edited By mantraxsp

Meliodas

Bleach: Yhwach.

Naruto: Kaguya.

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One Piece: Both get blitzed stomped by Luffy

Naruto: Juubito solos them both.

Bleach: Stops at Top Tier Captain

Honestly, anyone that is Relativistic speed with Large Island+ to Small Country physicals could beat them

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#22  Edited By uchihaghost

Commenting on just mel cuz i am not too familiar with natsu.

In naruto: Mel is a top tier in naruto, he can beat the likes of BSM Naruto, he is right below the likes of edo madara, EMS Alive Madara or SM hashirama IMHO.

In bleach: Mel beats most captains/quincies, soloes the espada and full brings. He loses to characters like Bankai yamajee, Aizen, ichibei, volstandin lille, gerrard. Meliodas mostlikely beats shikai kenny, gremmy and characters on that level.

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Interesting.

In Bleach: Meliodas loses to people like yoruichi, and lower tier captains. For natsu, any top tier captain (Byakuya, Kenpachi, Toshiro, etc)

In Naruto: Meliodas hard stops at Sage mode Hashirama. Natsu should stop at juubito.

One Piece: To be honest, they both should solo the verse for now, till we see better feats. since OP caps out at country with feats, while meliodas and natsu exceed that.

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Both Meliodas and Natsu solo One Piece for sure, Not sure about how well they do in Naruto and Bleach.

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Naruto: Juubito, don't see them beating anyone stronger

Bleach: No idea

OP: Solo the verse except for logias, though if Mel has hax that can damage them then they win

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Naruto: Juubito, don't see them beating anyone stronger

Bleach: No idea

OP: Solo the verse except for logias, though if Mel has hax that can damage them then they win

Meliodas has

1. Darkness that negates intangibility (estarossa darkness negated tarmiel water intang)

2. Hellblaze that burns until enemy is dust (hinted to negate high tier regen as well)

3. Sealing

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#27  Edited By Oleyamato

Naruto: Can't see either of them beating Juubito. They definitely stop there.

Bleach: They get to Yhwach then lose.

One Piece: Either can solo the verse.

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@macybaljure said:

Before we can answer this question we must know the abilities and general power these characters have.

Meliodas is a very versatile fighter, far more so than the main characters of the Big 3. Meliodas fights with Lostvayne clones that all can also use the powers he has at the same time. Meliodas sports Full Counter, an ability which can reflect back any magical attack at more than 2x the original power. Meaning that if Naruto were to use a bijuudama, he would get hit by his own attack at more than 2x the original power. Full Counter has shown the ability to basically reflect any elemental attack from earth to darkness itself, but it was also shown negating powerful hax in the form of King's Disaster: Status Promotion. Meliodas also sports the ability to use Vanish Counter which makes all enemy abilities vanish instead of countering, and Revenge Counter which attacks the enemy with all the power that Meliodas has been attacked with to that point in time. For example is he gets hit by 10 mountain busting attacks throughout the battle, Revenge Counter attacks the enemy with that level of power. Furthermore, Meliodas is immortal to aging and general death and he's a demon meaning that he has the power of darkness (healing, piecing body parts, powerful sealing) and he also has hellblaze, which is like amaterasu but more versatile. Meliodas is strong enough to full counter explosions the size of Britannia itself, and he can move so fast that lightning seems slow/unmoving.

Natsu is the strongest dragon-slayer with immunity to any fire ability. Natsu tends to fight both h2h and long-range, and he gets stronger from eating fire or heat, and he can even absorb lightning to power up. Natsu's flames are so hot he immediately vaporised a lake and his maximum attack power is equivalent to attacks that destroy countries. Natsu's attacks are powerful enough to out-punch high tier hax out of people, as shown when Natsu punched Fairy Heart out of White Mage Zeref. Fairy Heart has infinite power and can transcend time, ex. he can travel to the past through a gate to make the world collapse, or he can rewind time to negate himself from being completely vaporised. Natsu's punch can defeat a being like that.

Natsu

Bleach: Natsu's h2h fighting style means he would get killed by Barragan's Respira. If Natsu fights smarter, with his raw fighting style he might even get up to Lille Barro.

Naruto: Gets to Juubito. Hashirama doesn't have firepower to kill Natsu, but he could probably bind him. Problem is that Natsu can just snipe Hashirama with his fire-lightning breath attacks. Against Juubito Natsu still needs more feats.

One Piece: Kaido might be the most powerful, but Natsu being a dragon slayer should be able to hurt him. So maybe stop at other Yonko.

Nanatsu no Taizai: Demon King since Ruler is hard to bypass.

Meliodas

Bleach: Yhwach.

Naruto: Kaguya.

One Piece: Roger.

Fairy Tail: Maybe Moon dragon god.

You do know TBB is made out of positive black chakra and negative white chakra not Magic

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Wait why am I talking to him he's the same dude who thinks Naruto uses magic EOS because he can fly

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Naruto- Juubito

Bleach- Most Captains

One Piece- Yonko

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Naruto: Juubito for both

Bleach: Yhwach for both

One Piece: Solo the verse for both

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Naruto: Juudara for Meliodas, Juubito for Natsu

Bleach: They beat anyone but Yhwach

One piece: clear

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#33  Edited By TiredEagle

Naruto: Juubito

Bleach: Yhwach

One Piece: Both can clear the verse easily

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Naruto: neither of them are doing anything to jubbito and they stop at 1 rinnegan madara

Bleach: some op sternwriter destroys them

One piece: Clears the verse for both

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How do they make it to Yhwach? It'd be a miracle if they could even beat the Gotei 13, let alone the Sternritter.

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How do they make it to Yhwach? It'd be a miracle if they could even beat the Gotei 13, let alone the Sternritter.

People like to make fanon.

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How do they make it to Yhwach? It'd be a miracle if they could even beat the Gotei 13, let alone the Sternritter.

In 7DS there are groups

Mid Tier: Holy Knights

High Tier: Ten Commandments

Top Tier: Seven Deadly Sins (some are God tier), Two Master Demons, Archangels, Bloody Ellie, Beast of Darkness, EoS Zeldris

God Tier: Two Gods, Chaos powered beings

And these tiers in general are above their HST counterparts. Holy Knights can move at lightning speed. Ten Commandments can blow up entire kingdoms, Seven Deadly Sins can one-shot the Ten Commandments, and God tiers can create entire realms and worlds. Original Magic Power Meliodas is God Tier.

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At the very least

Neither of them are getting to the God Tiers in Naruto/Bleach

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Naruto:

Meliodas: Juubito

Natsu: Pain

Bleach:

Meliodas: TYBW Captain

Natsu: TYBW Lieutenant

One Piece:

Meliodas: Admiral

Natsu: Vice Admiral

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Honestly u guys are underrating meliodas and natsu

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Mel gauntlet:

Naruto: clears the verse, BOS Fodders in NNT were already Lightning speed to quad mach and BOS sins already dwarfed these speeds once they recovered their sacred treasures, BOS king has several sub-rel feats and BOS demon mark mel has a relativistic feat. Peak Mel is many orders of magnitude superior to his BOS self in all stats plus mid tier commandments were reacting to photon rays from point blank range and outpacing them so speed isn’t an issue

Weaker versions of Mel have much higher physicals than Naruto god tiers, Juubito has the best physical feats but they don’t exceed country level, Juubito would have a strength level around 10k-11k in NNT which is incomparable to Mel’s stronger forms but of course Juubito’s firepower with Jubbi bombs, chakra arms and such would be much higher than his physicals still not enough tho , Hax is the only saving grace Naruto god tiers have but Mel has resistance and counters to all of them so I don’t see how he can’t clear

Bleach: Yamma would be a problem for Mel with bankai but he’s not impressive to peak Mel in other stats so he gets blitzed and bisected before he gets the chance, Gerard is a pain in the ass but I don’t see him coming back from sealing or Mel can just eat em so gg, ichibei pretty much hard counters Mel so he probably stops there

One piece: clears the verse with absolute ease, speed isn’t an issue as I’ve already explained above and Large Country/Continental power was already surpassed by the 10C and peak Mel is way stronger than all of them combined, Most Logias that Liquify won’t be an issue because demon darkness counters that, true intangibles however like smoker and kizaru would be more tricky but they can still have their souls removed or be sealed

Fairy Tail: Most of the verse isn’t fast enough to be much of a threat and their God tiers are Maybe High Commandment to Archangel tier at best which is still a far cry from peak Mel depending how you rank Selene that is, FH Zeref is probably the only real obstacle in Mel’s path via hax and immortality but I can’t recall if Zeref can survive without a soul or not and the way he was defeated was pretty simple so I’m pretty sure Mel can replicate so it’s either Mel clears the verse or stalemate

Natsu’s Gauntlet:

Naruto: probably stops at Juubito, he’s far more versatile than Natsu with comparable stats although natsu might be a bit stronger at this point

Bleach: I was Gonna say he stops a Barragan but I wouldn’t be surprised if Natsu’s flames could burn respira given his plethora of feats that shouldn’t be possible so I’m gonna say he gets past the espada and stops at base Aizen, he simply has no answer to KS

One piece: clears everybody but kizaru for obvious reasons, G5 Luffy is debatable too ig

NNT: could stop at Grey Demon Hendrickson, Natsu’s much stronger but speed is comparable and I’m not sure what He can do against Hendy’s instant death hax but if he can somehow overcome it then he stops at Galand

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Meliodas is about Doflamingo tier. So any Admiral tier character would stomp. Natsu can get to the Yonko/Admirals in his amped states, beating some even. Without it, he’s nearing Admiral tier. His Attack Potency at least.

Meliodas can stop at an Espada, but most definitely loses to any relevant Captain/Sternitter. Natsu is beating a lot of captains and the Espada. I’d say he stops at TYBW Byakuya.

Meliodas loses to Juubito/BSM. Not much to say there really. Natsu probably beats BSM too, but loses to Juubito.

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Meliodas :

Bleach : Stops at Dangai Ichigo/Yama.

Naruto : Clears.

One Piece : Clears.

Fairy Tail : Clears in his true magic form.

Natsu :

Bleach : Stops at the likes of TYBW Byakuya.

Naruto : Clears.

One Piece : Clears.

Seven Deadly Sins : Stops at a top tier like King.

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•Meliodas and Natsu clear One Piece

•Meliodas and Natsu beat BM Naruto but nothing above

•Meliodas and Natsu are probably Espada tier

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Which versions of natsu and meliodas?