How do you personally rank these DC powerhouses?

@firsthunter: Just as much as Trigon stalemating Myx is to be considered lol

@comic_bruh777:

If you view it like that.

Anyway Joker with most of Mxy's power did almost destroy the Multiverse in a canon comic.

@firsthunter: that was pre rebirth and pre flashpoint

@comic_bruh777: Looks about right to me.

I said composite, first of all, so @firsthunter's WF scans are relevant.

Emperor Joker also has this showing.

@wf_mxyzptlk: i went back to see that you did in fact say composite Myx so my bad. I'm going to maintain that normal Myx stays where he is though

@comic_bruh777:

Why is Normal Mxy not above Trigon?

@firsthunter: because normal Myx hasn't demonstrated that he can take anyone above him. There was that moment that he gave Darkseid a note that stated Myx + batmite= anti life. Above him is new 52 Anti Monitor who IS the Anti Life Equation and because of this he can control the black racer. I'd say normal Myx is good where he is. Also, Trigon was not portrayed to be any more powerful than usual in his fight against Myx in injustice and Myx was not stated to be depowered or weakened. Noting indicating it couldn't really happen in continuity. Unlike some of Myx's non cannon showings where he is clearly WAY more powerful as he has never shown any showings even close in main continuity

@comic_bruh777:

: because normal Myx hasn't demonstrated that he can take anyone above him.

His feats are above Trigon and N52 AM.

There was that moment that he gave Darkseid a note that stated Myx + batmite= anti life.

This was in Worlds Funniest and it was clearley a joke.

Above him is new 52 Anti Monitor

lol. N52 Darkseid managed to briefly fight evenly with him.

who IS the Anti Life Equation

He has the Post-Flashpoint ALE (Different than Pre-Flashpoint) running through his veins.

Also, Trigon was not portrayed to be any more powerful than usual in his fight against Myx in injustice and Myx was not stated to be depowered or weakened.

Doesn't matter. It's non-canon and therefore non-usable.

Noting indicating it couldn't really happen in continuity.

The fact that Trigon has no feats close to Other 5D Imps or Emperor Joker

@firsthunter: think what you want dude Myx hasn't shown feats to be above the life equation or the anti life equation simple as that.

I like how you didn't respond to my comment at all.

Give me feats that the Post Flashpoint ALE and LE have that Mxy can't replicate.

@firsthunter: because I've debated you before and honestly it's a waste of time. You're never willing to consider a different point of view it's like talking to a wall.

That being said, what you just said in post #61 is rediculous. So now a character can do anything until it's proven he can't? That's not how it works. Until Mxy has an actual showing or it is stated that he would even stand a chance against either the LIFE EQUATION or the ANTI LIFE EQUATION you can't just assume he can.

@firsthunter: new 52 Darksied got one good punch in and got killed within a couple pages so I don't understand why you can say he hung with him. Maybe about as much as you could hang with Mike Tyson if he let you get one good punch in lol but he'd still win in a few seconds

@comic_bruh777:

because I've debated you before and honestly it's a waste of time. You're never willing to consider a different point of view it's like talking to a wall.

Oh the Irony.

So now a character can do anything until it's proven he can't?

Never claimed so. However Mxy can beat the Post-Flashpoint ALE due to having feats above it.

you can't just assume he can.

I can assume so since he has far better feats.

new 52 Darksied got one good punch in

More like one punch and several blasts.

and got killed within a couple pages

By the Black Racer, not Anti-Monitor alone.

Where is Batman?

@firsthunter: the reason AM is so powerful is that he has the ALE which allows him to utilize the Black Racer. If you hadn't noticed I specifically rated him on this list as "new 52 Anti-Monitor w/ the Black Racer"

@ridd: batgod monitors the over monitor

@firsthunter: Mxy doesn't have feats tanking the LE or the ALE so you can't assume they won't bring him down

@comic_bruh777: See this is true but many people tend to think of it as a joke.

What are the feats or the Post-Flashpoint LE or the ALE to bring down someone of Mxy's Caliber?

Black Racer isn't Mxy level. Not even close.

@makerofmatches: the LE and the ALE are 2 of the most powerful forces in the DCU. The real question is, what makes you assume that Mxy can tank either without proof. That's like saying the IG needs sufficient feats to be able to take down _________. No ________ needs sufficient feats to prove they can tank the IG. You have it backwards

@comic_bruh777:

The real question is, what makes you assume that Mxy can tank either

The fact that they have yet to take down a Mxy level opponent.

That's like saying the IG needs sufficient feats to be able to take down _________.

Yes. That's how it works.

o ________ needs sufficient feats to prove they can tank the IG

You have it backwards.

You have it backwards

Other way around.

@makerofmatches: Myx hasn't beat anyone/ thing as powerful at the LE or ALE in cannon so that goes both ways I guess. Oh well agree to disagree I can tell you have your mind made up. Out of curiosity how do you feel about the showing in injustice vs Trigon? Non cannon but

Still just curious. Because the fact they were tearing apart reality demonstrates that Myx isn't depowered Thad right up his alley

@comic_bruh777:

Myx hasn't beat anyone/ thing as powerful at the LE or ALE

Feats for the Post-Flashpoint ALE/LE to be more powerful than Corrigan Spectre?

how do you feel about the showing in injustice vs Trigon?

Non-Canon and therefore non-usable.

@makerofmatches: the life equation and ALE are implied equals and the LE was altering reality at will. That is beyond the Spectre.

I know it's non cannon I was just asking how you feel about it. I know it's not usable. How do you feel about it do you think it would go a different way in cannon?

@comic_bruh777:

That is beyond the Spectre.

Corrigan Spectre can't alter reality?

do you think it would go a different way in cannon?

Yes.

@makerofmatches: that's your opinion. White lantern Kyle Rayner threatened all of reality on accident with the LE. That's how powerful it is. WF Mxy had a showing on this caliber. normal Mxy never had a feet on par with that and 99% of his power was enough to control the Spectre. Do the math

@comic_bruh777:

Emperor Joker nearly destroyed the Multiverse on accident.

@makerofmatches: I think that because of your bias you want to disagree with my following statement but Trigons showing in injustice is not out of the realm of possibility of really happening

@comic_bruh777:

There is no bias. That would not happen without PIS/CIS/WIS.

@makerofmatches: you are entitled to your opinion

Not going to attempt to refute my comment?

@makerofmatches: it's an opinion there is really no way to know it would be all speculative. I'm not gunna sit here and act like I know all the answers. The truth is nobody knows. They can speculate all day long

@comic_bruh777:

I'll accepect your concession.

@makerofmatches: lol ok dude. I'm not gunna sit here and act like I know everything. We haven't seen Trigon go up against anyone on Myx's level in cannon. It was a stalemate in injustice. All anyone can do is speculate. The difference is I can admit that, and I can have one opinion and be just fine that you have another opinion. You on the other hand act like you know when NO ONE KNOWS. This is why I don't like to debate you. All you care about is being right and don't accept that somethings are opinions because of lack of showings/proof. You need to act like you know everything and when someone less stubborn than you admits that no body knows then you accept that as a concession and think you've won something.

@apocofist: how do you see these characters stacking up??

Superman Prime

Monarch

Imperiex Prime

SCW Anti-Monitor

Infinity Man

Takion

Stayne

New 52 Darkseid

New 52 Highfather

White Lantern Kyle Rayner

Relic

Classic Doctor Fate

Mordru

H/P Doomsday

Mobius

Gog

Kingdom Come Superman

Full Starheart Alan Scott

Superboy Prime

H'el

Ion Sodam Yat