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R1 Captain america with motorcycle

R2 Odin

R3 Full Power Starbrand

R4 Galactus

R5 Franklin Richards

R6 Composite Nate Grey ( life seed + sharman )

R7 Insane Genis Vell

R8 Mad Jim Jaspers and Fury

R9 Shuma Gorath

R10 Phoenix Force

R11 Thanos IG

R12 First Firmament

R13 Chaos war MIkaboshi

R14 Protege

R15 Thanos with hotu pre retcon

sorry if its out of order

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#3 Posted by Mister_Surreal (11592 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly don't know. Maybe 8.

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#4 Posted by skywalker95 (5083 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 1

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#5 Posted by johnsmjs36 (701 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 4 or 5

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#6 Posted by cosmic_reign (3710 posts) - - Show Bio

LOSES rd 3 and beyond...regardless of order!

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#7 Edited by RandomGuy287 (1629 posts) - - Show Bio

1 cap with motorcycle is unbeatable

probably stops at 10

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#8 Edited by Soratoumiga (3792 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL at her losing to Franklin, Nate or Galactus. She one-shots them combined.

OT: Stops at 10, but 13 should be much lower. An argument can be made for her clearing first 11 rounds and 13.

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#9 Edited by DivinePixelBook (206 posts) - - Show Bio

She passes through all first 8 rounds effortlessly, and stops at 9 or 10.

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#10 Posted by EmmaFrostXmen (3194 posts) - - Show Bio

R1 Captain america with motorcycle - Wanda

R2 Odin - Wanda

R3 Full Power Starbrand - Wanda

R4 Galactus - Wanda

R5 Franklin Richards - Wanda

R6 Composite Nate Grey - Wanda

R7 Insane Genis Vell - Wanda

R8 Mad Jim Jaspers and Fury - Wanda

R9 Shuma Gorath - Idk who this is

R10 Phoenix Force - Phoenix force appears to be weak to Wanda’s powers, therefore I say Wanda

R11 Thanos IG - Wanda is multiversal in HOM, and the gauntlet is only universal

R12 First Firmament - idk who this is

R13 Chaos war MIkaboshi - idk who this is

R14 Protege - idk who this is

R15 Thanos with hotu pre retcon - Thanos? I’m not sure though

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#11 Posted by Supermanthor (21826 posts) - - Show Bio

OT: Stops at 10, but 13 should be much lower.

judgeing statement mikaboshi is in perfect position

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#12 Posted by Soratoumiga (3792 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: As far as I know, he was stated to be equal to Eternity, who's inferior to Thanos w/ IG, and arguably below Phoenix Force.

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#13 Posted by The_Red_Devil (5075 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 13.

Also I read Horny Scarlet Witch , lol !

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#14 Edited by thor321 (2075 posts) - - Show Bio

potentially stops at 10.

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#15 Edited by Supermanthor (21826 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga said:

@supermanthor: As far as I know, he was stated to be equal to Eternity, who's inferior to Thanos w/ IG, and arguably below Phoenix Force.

depends mikaboshis power level relies on various retcons and stuff

in the same comics hercules and cho tells each other that he destroyed 98.7 % of multiverse

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#16 Posted by Soratoumiga (3792 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Chaos War messed up the hierarchy, so you're right in a way.

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#17 Posted by Supermanthor (21826 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Chaos War messed up the hierarchy, so you're right in a way.

chaos war infinity gauntlet sequels secret wars both old and new recent ff comics all messed up power levels

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#19 Edited by Brittonic_para (303 posts) - - Show Bio

Could stop at 8, dont know much about them though. Shuma is way to powerful though.

Also, i love that scarlet witch picture. I want somone to do a CaV with her so i can collect feats, i fell in love with the mcu version, and am really loving her comic version aswell.

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#20 Posted by TakenStew22 (2644 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard stop at 1. Only Outerversal Doomsday and 616 Thing can beat Cap with his motorcycle.

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#21 Posted by Omnipotent94 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard stop at 1. Only Outerversal Doomsday and 616 Thing can beat Cap with his motorcycle.

Don't forget CW Arrow.

OT: Stops at 10 IMO.

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#22 Posted by TakenStew22 (2644 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't forget CW Arrow.

Sadly I'm not that familiar with that meme. What started it?

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#23 Posted by SmoothSanta (2576 posts) - - Show Bio

2 or 3

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#24 Posted by johnsmjs36 (701 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga: Can you tell me why she beat them? I am not very knowledgeable on Wanda.

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#26 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (6689 posts) - - Show Bio

@emmafrostxmen: the first firmament is the very first multiverse he chains eternity in the ultimates.

Mikaboshi is an avatar of oblivion(represents the nothingness at the end of every reality)

Protégé is a being who can copy anyone's powers up to the living tribunal.

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#27 Posted by Soratoumiga (3792 posts) - - Show Bio

@johnsmjs36: She's multiversal in power, with high end infinite-dimensional feats, no one in top 10, bar Phoenix Force, have that kind of power on-panel.

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#28 Posted by EmmaFrostXmen (3194 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_living_tribunal_24: Hmmmmmm, Do you think Wanda can beat them? I’m asking so I have someone else’s opinion before I decide an outcome

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#30 Posted by Supermanthor (21826 posts) - - Show Bio

@emmafrostxmen: even tho I created it

But the latter guys will stomp her

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#34 Edited by Soratoumiga (3792 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanthor: Well...

Mad Jim Jaspers/Fury

MJJ has a legit universal+ feat of destroying the 238 universe, and Fury has the feat of adapting to him and beating him. They are roughly universal+ by legit, consistent feats, however, there are plenty of statements about MJJ's powers spreading through the Omniverse/Multiverse, such as:

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And this suggests Jaspers could be a multiversal (or above) level threat, but doesn't have enough feats to prove that.

Shuma-Gorath

As for Shuma... Most of his scaling comes from Dormammu, who is more or less around his level. Dormammu made him retreat once, but iirc, Shuma once dwarfed Dormammu in one occasion. Now, I'd put Dormammu at baseline Multiversal with mid-high ball, and if Shuma scales to him, he would be the same, however, other implied feats of his are that his aura destroys galaxies, and nothing notable besides that. Plently of implications however, that his mere minions can challenge universal beings and defeat them.

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#35 Posted by ValBr111 (485 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably around 8 or 9. But I'm not the most knowledgeable on HOM SW.

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#37 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (6689 posts) - - Show Bio

@emmafrostxmen: no, she stops at the first firmament, and that is if galactus doesn't tp her.

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#38 Posted by GentlemanTopHat (1084 posts) - - Show Bio

R14 Protege - idk who this is

Protege was very powerful character who had similar copy powers to DC's Amazo but only much more powerful he could copy the powers and abilities of characters who were multiverse level and above Like The Living Tribunal Protege got so powerful the writers had to pull a deus ex machina to beat him

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#39 Posted by katrurius17 (1314 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard stop at 1. Only Outerversal Doomsday and 616 Thing can beat Cap with his motorcycle.

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#40 Posted by Yamiyodare (1727 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard stop at 10.

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#41 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2493 posts) - - Show Bio

Massively out of order, 1 should be the final round.

Stops at 9 or 10. 10 depends on which Phoenix we're using, Aaron's or the universal level one.

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#42 Posted by Nandope (517 posts) - - Show Bio

STOPS at 10 the order ins't good tho

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