@ourmanuel: if someone did it to RS I would the power comes from the boom, if it doesn't expand and explode how do I know it was the full effect?
Hokage Naruto vs Ichigo, Luffy & Natsu
@ourmanuel: I'll concede the point tho, it doesn't change anything RS is far from his strongest attack he won't need more than 2-3 of those.
Naruto wins. But I agree wit the whole Lanza feat argument mostly. However Naruto's potency is more than likely higher, even aside from the actual distance covered wit his attacks, which is also superior.
Naruto curbstomps. He's always been above these Shounen MC.
-Ichigo's hill-busting slashes are inferior to a standard Biju Dama, let alone Naruto's continental fire-power. He's physically outclassed too.
-Don't know what Luffy is doing here. He gets killed in the crossfire. SM Naruto is a balanced matchup for him, anything above is a stomp.
-Natsu's firepower is inferior and so are his stats.
Team take this.
Dangai Ichigo physical still above any naruto character physical , one hit and naruto die .
Naruto AP maybe a little higher than the teams , but his physicall are .... foder lv to Dangai Ichigo and still weaker than G4 luffy's physical.
VL Ichigo at 50% was no selling small country lv attack .
Nardo have nothing to scratch Dangai Ichigo.
Not sure why EOS Naruto is here while Ichigo and the others are not EOS.
Irregardless Naruto wins. Luffy and Natsu are basically punching bags for Naruto and just don't have the firepower to contend. Dangai Ichigo is a lot stronger then people give him credit for but only true Shikai/Bankai Ichigo can contend with Naruto past KCM 1
Naruto stomps so bad and I’m not even wanking. People fail to realize just how massive of a power boost SPSM was for him. He went from getting curbstomped by 10 Tails Obito who was missing 9 tails and 8 tails, to bitchslapping 10 Tails Madara who had the full 10 Tails beast inside him.
But without scaling let’s look at his casual attacks.
It took him 3 seconds to form 6 massive TBB Rasenshuriken that have Moon Level DC but Country AOE, and he can fling them like candy at this point, it doesn’t effect his stamina in the least like it would in SM. None of the trio are tanking that attack, and without Meliodas here to full counter via save the bunch, they are dead.
At least nerf Naruto 50% or something to make it fair.
@mrdanzo: Lanza is a mountain level only.
Rewatch Aizen vs Ichigo fight. Their physicals are only hill level at best. BSM Naruto fought with Juubito whose Chakra Arms ripped apart the Hokage barrier, which contained Jubi's Bijuu Dama that was measured at multi-continental. Rikudo Naruto is even above that.
Naruto still wins, Luffy doesn't have the stamina or range, Natsu doesn't have the speed or durability. Ichigo ...it's been a while and I don't full remember this mode (did he beat aizen with it?) he may stand a chance but Naruto easily takes majority 9/10
@woodward: Ichigo and Aizen evaporized mountains by just shockwaves from their parries .
I think you cant understand what the diference between destroying a few small mountain with energy based attacks that need charge and shockwaves created by casual parrys wich ones able to evaporate mountains.
Offt : Ultra fraggor was more impressive any TBB or BD.
Bijuu dama being more than multi mountain is just biased fan calc.
if you try to going by scaling , then show scaling , and try to not ignore scalings for other characters.
@mrdanzo: What they evaporated were small hills, not even large hills let alone mountains. Just small hills. Aizen and Ichigo are in fact comparable to those hills they slashed.
BSM Naruto was fighting Juubito whose Chakra Arms physically ripped apart the Hokage Barrier, which withstood an attack of this scale:
So even in physical contest, BSM Naruto would overpower Ichigo easily let alone RSM who scales above Juubito.
Casual Biju Dama >>>>>>>> fragor. Show me scans of ultrafraggor vaping actual mountains, not small hills but mountains
Ultrafragor gets sh*t on by BM naruto's bijuudama let alone current naruto lol
OT: Naruto smacks every single version of ichigo/luffy/natsu simultaneously
@lichvanastrea: Statements don't mean shit when the scan I posted outright shows Ichigo and Aizen are comparable to those rock formations.
@woodward: Lol, you know what's funny? You accepted the black hole that Bluenote casted had the same infinite mass as a real one because he said so and told me to accept the statements, but when Ichigo says he and Aizen busted a mountain, you completely disregard it.
@lichvanastrea: There are accepted standards like mountain size entry is minimum 1000 meters. Not made up by me but by geologists. Unless you think Ichigo and Aizen are giants, then those rock formations aren't mountains regardless of statements.
>Says the mountains aren't mountains, despite it being stated in the manga
>Accepts the weak ass black hole having the same infinite mass as a real one because it was stated
Smh. Good thing the anime does a better visual job.
Vasto lorde ichigo in the hellverse movie. Destroyed the. Chains of hell. Yamamoto stated that he tought It was unbrakable. Yama has sun potency.
And after that it was stated several times that ichigo was gonna destroy hell.
With that many stating it. The auther is impling that he was able to destroy hell. Hell is comparable to earth. END of series ichigo is dozens of times stronger than this version.
This movie was overseen and written by kubo.
So its indeed cannon.
Just like people use the last naruto. I use this movie
Noone in naruto is planet.
@streak619: Why? Naruto vs Ichigo is a close fight.
@lichvanastrea: Lol stay salty and manga visual > anime
@streak619: Why? Naruto vs Ichigo is a close fight.
Hokage Naruto vs Dangai Ichigo? That's not close.
OT: Ichigo is the only one who gives Naruto a moment's pause, the other two get blitzed and one-shotted easily.
@mcu-defender333: Didn't see it was Dangai, it's very unfair then.
@mcu-defender333: Didn't see it was Dangai, it's very unfair then.
Fair
They unholy stomp him.
1. Him losing to someone else while in base doesn't make him weaker than people he has better feats then.
2. Lowballing is poor way to debate. Naruto has many many far better showings than this . He one shots all of them with bijuudama or blazing rasenshuriken
They unholy stomp him.
1. Him losing to someone else while in base doesn't make him weaker than people he has better feats then.
2. Lowballing is poor way to debate. Naruto has many many far better showings than this . He one shots all of them with bijuudama or blazing rasenshuriken
3. Momoshiki did the same thing to him.....he's in space now lol
4. Doesn't stop him from waving them goodbye......a really far goodbye
@lichvanastrea: Lol stay salty and manga visual > anime
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Continue making excuses with your blatant Bleach downplay, Mr. "Gildarts can solo everyone but Yhwach".
They unholy stomp him.
1. Him losing to someone else while in base doesn't make him weaker than people he has better feats then.
2. Lowballing is poor way to debate. Naruto has many many far better showings than this . He one shots all of them with bijuudama(1) or blazing rasenshuriken(2)
Not lowballing when they nerf Adult Naruto so much it's not funny.
1. Gets shot back at him by Ukitake
2. Sasuke isn't here
@lichvanastrea: Statements don't mean shit when the scan I posted outright shows Ichigo and Aizen are comparable to those rock formations.
The mountain was in the backdrop with trees being shown in the backdrop between them and the mountain...lol.
Ichigo said it was a mountain, going by the National Geological Survey definition it's a mountain so unless you're a credited geologist who holds a high level position where you have the power to change definitions...your semantics argument sucks and you should drop it.
Ichigo and Aizen vaped half a small mountain with a shockwave from their parry. That is easily multi mountain in AP as changing rock from a solid to a gas with no liquid state takes a stupid amount of energy.
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