Hokage Naruto vs Gotei 13

That^^^^^

I like all the different flavors of saltiness the bleach fans are throwing out.lmao

Seriously, the only non-irrelevant people on the bleach team is Yamamoto and kenpachi, and am here hearing soi fon can actually do something to naruto?smh

Remember guys bleach is "LoWbalLed".lol

lol, naruto sends some clones to deal with the fodders while he throws a bijuudama rasenshuriken to finish the job.

The sheer levels of wank and double standards in this thread is laughable

@xyzen: Byakuya has mastered Shunpo (flashstep), Kido (magic), and Bankai. Kenny is a reiatsu powerhouse able to mountain bust with ease and plenty of energy to spare. Naruto would simply be speed blitzed or overpowered. Bleach's powerscaling is far above Narutoverse.

@batmansolosall: We can CaV Naruto vs Byakuya if you want.

The only way I can possibly see Gotei 13 winning this is if Yamamoto uses bankai right of the bat, which I highly doubt. I'd like to see how gotei 13 deals with 1000+ Naruto clones, each of them with a Bijuu Dama that can wipe out entire mountain ranges. Might as well bring all of the Shinigami and they would all lose to Naruto anyway.

@weebbicboi:

Naruto has no way whatsoever of dealing with Yamamoto. His presence alone nearly destroyed all of soul society (Which is comparable to earth in size). His body itself is 15,000,000 degrees Celsius. Naruto gets burned to ash just by being near the guy.

Just by activating his Bankai all the water in soul society was evaporated, the captains even commented that If this kept up, all of soul society would be destroyed. (BTW, that was Yamamoto suppressing himself) now, imagine a blood lusted Yamamoto. Sorry, but Naruto has 0 chance of winning this. Naruto can’t survive on the sun.

@shuragam: Clones are fodder that have the durability of a piece of paper. naruto wank is outrageous

@emperormode: befor or after blitzing occurs

By the mid-point of the war Naruto's clones were capable of tanking city level attacks without popping. They get more durable the more power he puts into them, and he had A LOT of spare power to dump into them by the end of the series.

@flashingsabre: fair enough, but no one in naruto is taking a killing blow and not dying. each of the gotei 13 has a sword, and if they so much as stab a clone its for sure gonna pop

@allellujah: Sure, but they have to do that to a much faster opponent with precog and a protective energy aura, while dodging dozens of island+ super nukes that could tear most of them apart with a graze.

Not to mention that Naruto can fly much more freely than they can, so he's got the advantage in raw speed, reactions, and agility. They can't touch him without AoE hax, and if they try to charge any of their big moves up they'll slow down enough to get vaporized.

@flashingsabre: lets say all of that is true, and naruto is just blowing up everything. why wouldnt they just fly to the area where naruto is safe from his own explosions

@flashingsabre:

Naruto has no way whatsoever of dealing with Yamamoto. His presence alone nearly destroyed all of soul society (Which is comparable to earth in size). His body itself is 15,000,000 degrees Celsius. Naruto gets burned to ash just by being near the guy.

Just by activating his Bankai all the water in soul society was evaporated, the captains even commented that If this kept up, all of soul society would be destroyed. (BTW, that was Yamamoto suppressing himself) now, imagine a blood lusted Yamamoto. Sorry, but Naruto has 0 chance of winning this. Naruto can’t survive on the sun.

Naruto not winning here. Actually not even close

People keep mentioning clones. Can someone tell me when has Hokage Naruto ever used clones in combat?

The Gotei has,

• The heat of the sun.
• Absolute Zero.
• Ability nullifying ice.
• Reality warping games.
• Heart compulsion.
• Spacial Deconstruction.
• Time and space warping.
• Insta prep mechanisms.
• Sense inhibitors.
• An illusion that inverts all senses.
• An illusion that controls all senses and the sense of time.
• 100+ sealing techniques.
• An Immortal.
• The ability to crush souls.

Someone lock this mismatch already.

^^^what he said

And all of the above is ineffective because of Naruto's Six Paths Senjutsu's Yin–Yang Release. Chakra=Reiatsu.

that doesnt make sense

@kingogkings777: They'll need an additional factor to their attacks as reiatsu base attacks are equalize to chakra. Naruto's Six Paths Senjutsu's Yin–Yang Release nullifies "chakra only" attacks. The Gotei 13 will need an additional power (Like Natural Energy) so that their reiatsu base attacks could finally hurt or affect Naruto.

1. None of these attacks are simply Reiatsu.
2. Naruto can’t even do this.

You mean like Naruto is like Juubito where they could only hurt him with physical force and natural energy?

You make the bolded claim and then follow it up with complaining about Naruto wank? Jesus Christ, that's pathetic.

This is why nobody takes you seriously:

Yes, it is the power of Six Paths Senjutsu's Yin–Yang Release.

Which are all literally moot when Naruto nukes the battlefield because that's IC going by what the OP set up. But again, of course only the Bleach characters would use their best abilities while Naruto sits on his ass and does nothing because why not? That's obviously how the battle will actually go and not just how you want it to go.

That's all so that Leo can dodge trying to actually debate his points for once and keep harping on about how the Gotei will opt to use their best abilities while Naruto doesn't because reasons.

Firing out nukes willy nilly while everything is inverted is not brightest idea

He still dies passively to Yama’s heat, unless the lava in Kaguya’s dimension was 1 million degrees.

Please provide a Proof that they are not only reiatsu and which chapter in Bleach they are explained.

Why do you keep posting this nonsense?

It's not nonsense, it's a feat.

Back in the war arc, a jutsu as powerful as the collaboration jutsu of both Naruto and Sasuke's Scorch Release: Halo Hurricane Jet Black Arrow Style Zero does not even scratch Obito.

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So, what factor on their Reiatsu based attacks could make their attacks get through with him?

@requiemcross said:

@ourmanuel said:

@requiemcross said:

@kingogkings777: They'll need an additional factor to their attacks as reiatsu base attacks are equalize to chakra. Naruto's Six Paths Senjutsu's Yin–Yang Release nullifies "chakra only" attacks. The Gotei 13 will need an additional power (Like Natural Energy) so that their reiatsu base attacks could finally hurt or affect Naruto.

Why do you keep posting this nonsense?

It's not nonsense, it's a feat.

Back in the war arc, a jutsu as powerful as the collaboration jutsu of both Naruto and Sasuke's Scorch Release: Halo Hurricane Jet Black Arrow Style Zero does not even scratch Obito.

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So, what factor on their Reiatsu based attacks could make their attacks get through with him?

That's the truth seeking orb not himself

@kingogkings777: I suggest you reread the chapter again. Here is the page Tobirama stated that they hit him before Obito could even protect himself with TSB.

@requiemcross: it’s nonsense because it ignores the whole point of verse equalization.

It’d be like saying only reiatsu can hurt bleach characters.

Not quite, as chakra is equalize to reiatsu.

For other shinobi's who does not have access to Six Paths Senjutsu's Yin–Yang Release, it is equal.

but against Naruto, mismatch in naruto's favor as this ability ensured his victory.

@avatarreiko: He could accurately drop the nukes before that happens, and even though he fails to do so, the invertion of his senses wouldn't affect his additional senses

Naruto wasn't stated to be at his strongest or bloodlusted unlike the team.

I thought that was pretty clear.

But if you keep on insisting he’d start with his strongest attack which needs time to charge up then he’d just get Frozen and nulled by Toshiro within that time.

@leothegreatest said:@thevivas said: @azureus said: @leothegreatest said: @thevivas said: @wanderez: So Naruto opening with his strongest attacks is laughable and wank but it’s perfectly acceptable for the Captains to do the same thing?

More pathetic double standards. Not surprised at all!

Naruto is at “his breaking point” while the Gotei are at their strongest and bloodlusted.

Hopefully you just forgot the OPs rules and aren’t really trying to say it would make more sense for Naruto to use his strongest attacks at the start here.

I don't get what that changes...plus all feats are allowed according to the OP.

That's all so that Leo can dodge trying to actually debate his points for once and keep harping on about how the Gotei will opt to use their best abilities while Naruto doesn't because reasons.

Naruto wasn't stated to be at his strongest or bloodlusted unlike the team.

He is already in Six Paths Senjutsu

I thought that was pretty clear.

But if you keep on insisting he’d start with his strongest attack which needs time to charge up then he’d just get Frozen and nulled by Toshiro within that time.

How will Naruto get frozen and nulled if Toshiro's Bankai were nullify the moment his ice reach him?

Chakra=Reiatsu. So how will Toshiro's Ice bypass Naruto's Six Paths Senjutsu's Yin–Yang Release?

@thevivas: okay so once, against fodder. Cool.

I don't care if you don't take me seriously or not lol. You respond to this but not my post directed to you in this thread.

Naruto has no knowledge but he's just gonna nuke people and magically know who to take out 1st. Yeah right.

Gotei 13 still wins, because they are bloodlusted and have perfect teamwork. Naruto can't beat them.

I could see him going far in a gauntlet but still won't clear, against all he definitely dies. Any other answer is pure wank.

I change my vote because the Bleach side is doing a horrible job at debating. I too want to see a scan that shows them tanking a TBRS barrage.

@allellujah: Naruto's clones can tank attacks from the previous Kage, they are not that fragile AND have the same capabilities of the original Naruto. Even if they destroy the clones... so what? Naruto has chakra for days and can make another buttload of them. Again ... I'd like to see gotei 13 tanking 1000+ bijuu dama that can wipe out entire mountain ranges.

The only possible way the gotei have any chance of winning is if they fight. As long as they don't lower their reiatsu so Naruto can actually kill them, they stomp. Just reminding people who don't seem to know that they have reiatsu that can be raised to administer incredible damage potential and tank impossible attacks.

Yama erases any attack with shikai and burns him to nothingness

Soi Fon blitzes the life out of him and outskills even though she can overpower

Gin strikes from the shadows and rips Naruto into two

Unohana melts him to nothingness

Aizen trolls him then show how pointless it is to fight him

Byakuya tells him their power is as wide as the gap between heaven and earth then demonstrates

Komamura pummels him into the ground

Kyoraku offers a drink then cuts him down when he refuses

Kaname erases him with abolishing flames in the name of justice

Toshiro freezes him

Kenpachi gives him the Giriko treatment

Mayuri takes an interest in chakra and jutsu

Ukitake was ill so he didn't show up, but if he did he would stomp

The captains are too high on the power scale to lose to someone at that level. Try lower characters

@thebalance: reiatsu is equalize to chakra. One of naruto's feats is neutraling chakra only based attacks.( by utilizing his six path's senjutsu's yin yang release.) Without an additional factor to their reiatsu based attacks, how can they hurt or affect Naruto?

Naruto on the other hand does not need to over power them to win. A well place magnet release rasenshuriken or rasengan could seal off his enemies abilities and immobilized them.

@requiemcross said:

Then this thread even makes less sense as even mele attacks are reiatsu based. If this ability really acts like the sekki sekki rock, then probably only Jushiro or Mayuri can do anything. Kenpachi and Komamura still posses their brute strength but it's crap level compared to what Naruto can handle.

Can his attacks neutralize the pressure output to ignore reiatsu durability?

Naruto slaps

@thebalance: yes, Naruto could Imbued his ninjutsu and taijutsu with yin yang release nature transformation of his six path's senjutsu. Any durability provided by reiatsu is also negated.