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#51 Posted by DevoidRuby (290 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke uses his rinnegan more effective. How does that apply as a factor in this battle?

Keep up. Sasuke got stronger, so Naruto who is confirmed his equal must have also gotten stronger.

Is that why Kurama said his battle senses are crap and he is literaly sitting behind a desk all the time. Saying he is somehow miles more skilled than in his war arc state is nothing more than an asspull. This is based on pure assumptions. Also Second half of Kurama is nothing but a tiny ant compared to Juubi. If you paied attention when Naruto senses juubi. Kyuubi in comparrison was an ant.

Kurama simply said he was a little rusty in the arc, which going by the Momoshiki fight where he and Sasuke practically ragdolled somebody way above Madara despite being weakened, shows the difference isn't anything major. Not to mention Naruto is obviously more skilled given how we know for a fact he mastered his Six Paths Powers better given how he could fly in BSM, Naruto has better skill feats vs Momoshiki than he has through the whole war and we know for a fact he has learned more Jutsu.

When did he make thousand clones that could absorb Nature chakra all the same time. Give me a scan. Nuking madara wont do shit, he can pretty much no sell any ninjutsu. Naruto has to use senjutsu to harm him. Not to mention he can quite easy tank anything Naruto ever produced with his tsb shield.

I'll make this easier for you.

  1. Naruto makes 1000 Shadow Clones
  2. The actual Naruto absorbs as much Nature Energy as he needs
  3. The actual Naruto then flies into the air
  4. Madara appears for the fight
  5. Madara gets swamped by Thousands of Clones
  6. Madara gets nuked

There. So how will Madara counter when Naruto uses his Senjutsu powered Rasenshurikens from the Kyuubi Avatar? The same type of TSB shield that Naruto casually broke vs Toneri with a couple Rasengans? The same TSB Shield that Guy could break without even using his fists by just slamming Madara into it like a ragdoll?

Unlike Kaguya Madara can see the clones from the original body with his Rinnegan. Eh so many ways to overcome. Multichibaku tensei for instance. He did not hold Kaguya, he made clones to confuse her and bought some time before Sasuke was back.

Yes, that will help him so much. Now he knows which Naruto to scream angrily at while he gets bodied by 1000 Shadow Clones. Scans of Madara using 1000s of Chibaku Tensei Meteors? So, Naruto's clones held off Kaguya until Sasuke returned?

I never said teen naruto>adult naruto. Though difference is minimal. Not to mention they stood a chance only due to yin yang seal.

Your acting as if Naruto and Sasuke had no chance vs Madara despite the fact everytime Madara brought something out, Naruto and Sasuke easily countered it.

Light Fang? Naruto dodged it

Meteors? Naruto blowed them to bits

Limbo? Naruto dealt with it via Clones

TSOs? Naruto has Senjutsu

'Immortality'? Naruto has sealing

How can Madara possibly counter Naruto when he wasn't even able to beat far weaker versions of Naruto and Sasuke despite the 2 of them only having their abilities for about 3 minutes before they fought him.

He can't counter Rasenshurikens because his TSB shield will just get ripped through, he can't counter clones because he only has a few Limbo vs Naruto's literal army, he can't rely on Immortality because Naruto will just hit him with Magnet Release, he can't use his Senjutsu to catch Naruto off guard due to his Danger Sense, he can't use Chibaku tensei because Naruto can just have his clones free him.

Madara has no chance vs Hokage Naruto.

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#52 Posted by Supermanforever (7889 posts) - - Show Bio

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Keep up. Sasuke got stronger, so Naruto who is confirmed his equal must have also gotten stronger.

Sasuke did not get stronger, he just learned to use the ability better. That does not mean Naruto somehow got stronger too.

Kurama simply said he was a little rusty in the arc, which going by the Momoshiki fight where he and Sasuke practically ragdolled somebody way above Madara despite being weakened, shows the difference isn't anything major. Not to mention Naruto is obviously more skilled given how we know forlearned more Jutsu.

Momoshiki has literaly no feats that come even remotely close to Madara. Madara is juubi jinchuriki and has far more chakra. Double rinnegan, limbo abilities, rokudou senjutsu. Madara would outright slaugter momoshiki.

a fact he mastered his Six Paths Powers better given how he could fly in BSM, Naruto has better skill feats vs Momoshiki than he has through the whole war and we know for a fact he has

This is not a fact, this is asspull. Also Momoshiki is not someone that has shown great skills. Incase you didnt know he stated multiple times that he considers absorbing chakra the real power not the skills.

Also Naruto could stand a chance against Momoshiki because he was fighting alongside Sasuke and 4 kage. You are shitting all over the place trying to make Naruto could do something against Momoshiki.

I'll make this easier for you.

  1. Naruto makes 1000 Shadow Clones
  2. The actual Naruto absorbs as much Nature Energy as he needs
  3. The actual Naruto then flies into the air
  4. Madara appears for the fight
  5. Madara gets swamped by Thousands of Clones
  6. Madara gets nuked

1. In case you dont see well and can not read. Ill repeat to make it easier. Prove that Naruto can make 1000 shadow clones. actual scan

2. Madara can see the original one.

3. Because Madara will be standing there and letting him do all that.

4. Madara again incase you are blint can see the clones from the original one.

5- Yea chibaki tenseis and one shots all of the clones like trash.

6. Madara can easly tank any nuke Naruto produces with his tsb shield in case you can not read, deflect it with deva path, substiute himself with limbo and avoid the damage. Absorb the jutsu with his rinnegan.

You are talking as if Madara is standing there and Naruto does whatever he wants.

There. So how will Madara counter when Naruto uses his Senjutsu powered Rasenshurikens from the Kyuubi Avatar? The same type of TSB shield that Naruto casually broke vs Toneri with a couple Rasengans? The same TSB Shield that Guy could break without even using his fists by just slamming Madara into it like a ragdoll?

Uses tsb shield and shields himself. Tsb shield can no sell 4x bijudama from pointblank range which in size dwarfs yin yang rasenshuriken. Toneri does not use rikudou senjutsu. Gets your facts before you write something.

same TSB Shield that Guy could break without even using his fists by just slamming Madara into it like a ragdoll?

Gai never broke the shield, They actually used kamui to open the shield and make an opener for Gai to hit Madara. Also im repeating get your facts before you write something. Gai uses taijutsu, which is one of the vulnerabilities that Madara has.

Yes, that will help him so much. Now he knows which Naruto to scream angrily at while he gets bodied by 1000 Shadow Clones. Scans of Madara using 1000s of Chibaku Tensei Meteors? So, Naruto's clones held off Kaguya until Sasuke returned?

I will post scans of 1000 madara chibaku tenseis when you actually show Naruto making that many clones.

Naruto clones did not hold Kaguya, they bought time by literaly confusing Kaguya, because she can not tell the difference between the clone and the original one. If she had that same ability as Madara she would have curbstomped Naruto.

Your acting as if Naruto and Sasuke had no chance vs Madara despite the fact everytime Madara brought something out, Naruto and Sasuke easily countered it.

I never said they did not have chance against Madara. Again in case you can not read Naruto is fighting alone in this fight. Also incase you have no clue and did not read manga they had a chance against Madara for simple fact of possesing yin yan seal which required both shadow and light styles. Naruto does not have the seal here. Nor Sasuke who was the main reason of why they could even tag Madara.

Light Fang? Naruto dodged it

Yes and?

Meteors? Naruto blowed them to bits

Literaly side show. Madara at that point was not even interested in Sasuke and Naruto and went to complete IT. It took shit ton of times, Perfect susanoo, multiple rasengans and alot of time to destroy them. While Madara casually made them like it was nothing.

Limbo? Naruto dealt with it via Clones

Limbo could still tag him twice. Also limbo is not only usable in offensive capabilties. It can be used in defense to avoid any attack by subbing the limbo into the attack with original body.

TSOs? Naruto has Senjutsu

Madara has more orbs and can use it none stop. Naruto gradually lost the orbs as the fight was going on. If the fights goes longer, he will outlast Naruto by long mile.

'Immortality'? Naruto has sealing

What sealing? they lost shadow and light styles after Kaguya was sealed. And the seal requires both shadow and lightstyles. You literaly dont even know what you are talking about.

How can Madara possibly counter Naruto when he wasn't even able to beat far weaker versions of Naruto and Sasuke despite the 2 of them only having their abilities for about 3 minutes before they fought him.

In case you can not read your sentence. He was fighting both Sasuke and Naruto. Also they were not much weaker and they had the seal. Like if Madara had his abilties for ages. They could not defeat Madara either. Atleast Madara achived his goals and Naruto/Sasuke could not do a shit about it. Then he was going to crush both of them as he came down after IT and with full confidence stated. "I wont let you do anything further". While Naruto was shitting his pants.

He can't counter Rasenshurikens because his TSB shield will just get ripped through, he can't counter clones because he only has a few Limbo vs Naruto's literal army, he can't rely on Immortality because Naruto will just hit him with Magnet Release, he can't use his Senjutsu to catch Naruto off guard due to his Danger Sense, he can't use Chibaku tensei because Naruto can just have his clones free him.

Prove rasenshurkens are more destructive than 4x Juubidama. Ill be waiting. Single juubidama created an explosion that continental level. Shitty rasenshurikens the size of multiomountain at best wont do a shit.

Limbo>Naruto clones in useability, because they will help him dodge the attacks that he gets tagged with. Magnet release was outright dodged on panel like it was nothing. Im suprized you even argue this, when you have bare minimum knowledge about the verse.

Naruto has been tagged multiple times despite sage mode precognition. That not something invinsible like Ultra instinct...

You can not get freed from chibaku tensei from the magnitude that Madara has. Even half of the power that Kurama had barely broke out of tiny weakened Nagato chibaku tensei. Sasukes tiny chibaku tensei sealed all tailed beasts easy. Momoshiki who was powerfull on his own, barely broke out of Sasukes tiny chibaku tensei. Naruto might break out, but might not.

Madara has no chance vs Hokage Naruto.

Only in the Naruto wankfest party members eyes. Even if we absolutely ignore everything. Madara one shots with Infinite tsukuyomi. Explan to me how he will avoid this one? Im sure your delusion lets you think Naruto clone will shield him from the light lmao.

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#53 Edited by ourmanuel (10541 posts) - - Show Bio

He stops at god tree Madara, who he literally can’t beat.

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#54 Posted by DevoidRuby (290 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke did not get stronger, he just learned to use the ability better. That does not mean Naruto somehow got stronger too.

Of course, we all know Teen Sasuke could blow apart Konoha sized meteors with a casual Chidori.

Momoshiki has literaly no feats that come even remotely close to Madara. Madara is juubi jinchuriki and has far more chakra. Double rinnegan, limbo abilities, rokudou senjutsu. Madara would outright slaugter momoshiki.

Momoshiki has Jutsu Absorption, Superior Physicals, Energy Weapons and his own Jutsu. Madara could do literally nothing to him.

This is not a fact, this is asspull. Also Momoshiki is not someone that has shown great skills. Incase you didnt know he stated multiple times that he considers absorbing chakra the real power not the skills.

Also Naruto could stand a chance against Momoshiki because he was fighting alongside Sasuke and 4 kage. You are shitting all over the place trying to make Naruto could do something against Momoshiki.

This is canon, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it doesn't count. Momoshiki literally displayed skill with weapons and Taijutsu on screen.

The Kage didn't do anything other than get one shotted vs Fused Momoshiki and Sasuke was out of the fight most of the time. Naruto was still the one who held his own in a 1 v 1 Taijutsu battle, sent Momoshiki flying into the stump with a punch and was able to match him in speed.

1. In case you dont see well and can not read. Ill repeat to make it easier. Prove that Naruto can make 1000 shadow clones. actual scan

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2. Madara can see the original one.

Which helps how?

3. Because Madara will be standing there and letting him do all that.

Yes he will given how you have shown no feats of Madara being able to apparently deal with being surrounded by an army of Clones with comparable stats to his.

4. Madara again incase you are blint can see the clones from the original one.

Wow, how amazing, this helps in literally no way.

5- Yea chibaki tenseis and one shots all of the clones like trash.

The same Chibaku Tensei that Naruto can casually break out of by going into his Kyuubi Avatar or by just having clones free him?

6. Madara can easly tank any nuke Naruto produces with his tsb shield in case you can not read, deflect it with deva path, substiute himself with limbo and avoid the damage. Absorb the jutsu with his rinnegan.

Provide feats. Naruto in the Last already destroyed Truth Seeking orbs with Rasengans.

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You are talking as if Madara is standing there and Naruto does whatever he wants.

He won't be standing there, he'll be getting swarmed from every direction by clones.

Uses tsb shield and shields himself. Tsb shield can no sell 4x bijudama from pointblank range which in size dwarfs yin yang rasenshuriken. Toneri does not use rikudou senjutsu. Gets your facts before you write something.

Juubidama haven't got any Senjutsu in them, why would they affect the TSBs. Not to mention the Orbs have been broken by far less.

Gai never broke the shield, They actually used kamui to open the shield and make an opener for Gai to hit Madara. Also im repeating get your facts before you write something. Gai uses taijutsu, which is one of the vulnerabilities that Madara has.

Wrong.

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I will post scans of 1000 madara chibaku tenseis when you actually show Naruto making that many clones.

Go ahead then.

Naruto clones did not hold Kaguya, they bought time by literaly confusing Kaguya, because she can not tell the difference between the clone and the original one. If she had that same ability as Madara she would have curbstomped Naruto.

Madara being able to tell the difference doesn't help him. Him knowing which Naruto is real doesn't suddenly mean every other clone disappears or stops attacking him.

I never said they did not have chance against Madara. Again in case you can not read Naruto is fighting alone in this fight. Also incase you have no clue and did not read manga they had a chance against Madara for simple fact of possesing yin yan seal which required both shadow and light styles. Naruto does not have the seal here. Nor Sasuke who was the main reason of why they could even tag Madara.

Naruto and Sasuke didn't have a chance? Madara could literally do nothing to them and they would have eventually won via Teleport into Magnet Release and Chidori.

Yes and?

So his fastest technique is useless.

Literaly side show. Madara at that point was not even interested in Sasuke and Naruto and went to complete IT. It took shit ton of times, Perfect susanoo, multiple rasengans and alot of time to destroy them. While Madara casually made them like it was nothing.

So now Madara has no real offensive measures.

Limbo could still tag him twice. Also limbo is not only usable in offensive capabilties. It can be used in defense to avoid any attack by subbing the limbo into the attack with original body.

Which won't help due to the fact Madara will have to constantly spam his Limbo to avoid get out of clone spams and magnet release spams.

Madara has more orbs and can use it none stop. Naruto gradually lost the orbs as the fight was going on. If the fights goes longer, he will outlast Naruto by long mile.

Senjutsu = Sage Stuff aka 'Your Truth Seeking Orbs are practically useless' Chakra

What sealing? they lost shadow and light styles after Kaguya was sealed. And the seal requires both shadow and lightstyles. You literaly dont even know what you are talking about.

Magnet Release? The Seal Madara had to sacrifice his Limbo to avoid.

In case you can not read your sentence. He was fighting both Sasuke and Naruto. Also they were not much weaker and they had the seal. Like if Madara had his abilties for ages. They could not defeat Madara either. Atleast Madara achived his goals and Naruto/Sasuke could not do a shit about it. Then he was going to crush both of them as he came down after IT and with full confidence stated. "I wont let you do anything further". While Naruto was shitting his pants.

Instead of fighting weaker versions of Naruto and Sasuke, he's fighting hundreds of Stronger Hokage Naruto's. If Madara tries to cast IT then Naruto can easily just shoot him out of the sky or go up to the sky and attack him via flight, an ability he didn't know he could use Vs Madara before.

Prove rasenshurkens are more destructive than 4x Juubidama. Ill be waiting. Single juubidama created an explosion that continental level. Shitty rasenshurikens the size of multiomountain at best wont do a shit.

I guess in your world BSM Naruto Rasengan and Guy (Without Night Guy) can bust multiple continents since they treated TSBs like trash.

Limbo>Naruto clones in useability, because they will help him dodge the attacks that he gets tagged with. Magnet release was outright dodged on panel like it was nothing. Im suprized you even argue this, when you have bare minimum knowledge about the verse.

I'd rather have hundreds of Clones that can fight rather than several clones that will be essentially useless.

I love how you say I have bare minimum knowledge when you've not even posted scans and have outright said things didn't happen in the manga only to get proven wrong with actual scans. Lmao.

Naruto has been tagged multiple times despite sage mode precognition. That not something invinsible like Ultra instinct...

He has been tagged by stronger opponents than Madara (Kaguya, Momoshiki, Toneri) or when he was caught off guard (Limbo Clones)

You can not get freed from chibaku tensei from the magnitude that Madara has. Even half of the power that Kurama had barely broke out of tiny weakened Nagato chibaku tensei. Sasukes tiny chibaku tensei sealed all tailed beasts easy. Momoshiki who was powerfull on his own, barely broke out of Sasukes tiny chibaku tensei. Naruto might break out, but might not.

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Pain's meteors look pretty similar in size, around the same size as several mountains just like Madara's.

Only in the Naruto wankfest party members eyes. Even if we absolutely ignore everything. Madara one shots with Infinite tsukuyomi. Explan to me how he will avoid this one? Im sure your delusion lets you think Naruto clone will shield him from the light lmao.

Madara.

More like

Foddara.

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#55 Posted by reaverlation (25839 posts) - - Show Bio

Proof that Madara can make 1,000 chibaku tensei meteors or that he can make somebody the core of a Chibaku Tensei like Sasuke can? Madara still loses

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#57 Edited by KingZod (3915 posts) - - Show Bio

The fallacious Naruto downplay is truly hilarious.

Edit: Naruto still clears

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#58 Posted by Standardized (1192 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingzod said:

The fallacious Naruto downplay is truly hilarious.

Edit: Naruto still clears

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#59 Edited by FullMetalEmprah (4022 posts) - - Show Bio

Under these conditions he stops at 11 or clears.

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#61 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: you do know immortality is restricted in this right

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#62 Edited by ourmanuel (10541 posts) - - Show Bio

@abc_voltage: it is?

ok, then naruto should beat round 11, like 6.5/10

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#63 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: yeah

Rules

Full power Naruto

Immortality is restricted

Naruto is moral on;Madara is moral off

10 minutes prep for Naruto

After rounds, he will be fully healed

Wins by Death or K.O

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#64 Posted by Revold (720 posts) - - Show Bio
@kingzod said:

The fallacious Naruto downplay is truly hilarious.

Edit: Naruto still clears

Even with immortality restricted, Madara literally has everything Naruto has AND MORE. So I can't see any argument for Naruto that couldn't apply to Madara as well. The only thing that you might argue is gaining the other half Kurama, but Madara not only has a half Kurama and every other Bijuu, so much so that the Bijuu chakra Obito ripped out for Naruto is nothing.

And I could go on about Naruto no longer capable of Six Paths Senjutsu, but the issue here is that I don't even need to resort to a theory as high level as that. Madara has things like TSB and Rinnegan which Naruto don't, which makes me wonder how half the people on this thread could even think that Naruto clears.

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#65 Posted by Standardized (1192 posts) - - Show Bio

@revold said:
@standardized said:
@kingzod said:

The fallacious Naruto downplay is truly hilarious.

Edit: Naruto still clears

Even with immortality restricted, Madara literally has everything Naruto has AND MORE. So I can't see any argument for Naruto that couldn't apply to Madara as well. The only thing that you might argue is gaining the other half Kurama, but Madara not only has a half Kurama and every other Bijuu, so much so that the Bijuu chakra Obito ripped out for Naruto is nothing.

And I could go on about Naruto no longer capable of Six Paths Senjutsu, but the issue here is that I don't even need to resort to a theory as high level as that. Madara has things like TSB and Rinnegan which Naruto don't, which makes me wonder how half the people on this thread could even think that Naruto clears.

Naruto is still capable of using six paths senjutsu.

Naruto has already kicked away TSB's that's nothing to him.

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#66 Posted by Undre (2550 posts) - - Show Bio

@standardized: Madara has wayy more chakra reserves than naruto. Way more abilities with his reinngan like CT and it. Their is no proof adult naruto is stronger than war arc naruto if anything war is stronger ,has much better feats. Clones and his kurama avatar get bodied massively by the jubi madara can summon. Litterly nothing naruto can do

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#67 Posted by Standardized (1192 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre said:

@standardized: Madara has wayy more chakra reserves than naruto. Way more abilities with his reinngan like CT and it. Their is no proof adult naruto is stronger than war arc naruto if anything war is stronger ,has much better feats. Clones and his kurama avatar get bodied massively by the jubi madara can summon. Litterly nothing naruto can do

He doesn't.

Naruto can destroy madaras ct's with clones.

Naruto still wins.

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#68 Edited by Undre (2550 posts) - - Show Bio

@standardized: so naruto can spamm 1000 bijushirkins. Umm no he doesn't have the chakra reserves to do that. The most we seen him do is 10. And since when does naruto have more chakra than the jubi? When ever madara used CT naruto was shocked at his power.

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#69 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre: all naruto says is the ct was bigger than before then casually chucks some bijuu rasenshuikens to destroy them

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#70 Posted by Undre (2550 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre: all naruto says is the ct was bigger than before then casually chucks some bijuu rasenshuikens to destroy them

Hes clearly amazed by madaras power

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#71 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre: like I said all was the ct were bigger than before narutos statement is pure observation in the next couple pages of that chapter he casually chucks bijuu rasenshurikens to destroy the ct

The only person in awe/amazed by madaras ct in that panel is Sakura

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#72 Posted by Undre (2550 posts) - - Show Bio

@abc_voltage: he litterly said"is this the six paths power" implying hes amazed by his power. And he only destroyed the ones in his area

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#73 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre: the one who said “I-is this the six paths power “ was Sakura not naruto the dialogue box that said this points directly to Sakura

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#74 Posted by Undre (2550 posts) - - Show Bio

@abc_voltage: doesnt really matter because at that madara sages level if not steonger

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With one rinnegan hes alreay close to hagroomos level. With 2 hes hagroomos level easy and with the 3rd eye hes comparable to kaguya

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#75 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre: it does matter to an extent you are trying to claim a character said something that was said by different character

And naruto Is close to Hagoromos lvl as well since he put that madara on his back and had him running then matched the version that came after that , and before you try and say madara just fought guy no madara himself denied that reason and gave it to naruto getting stronger,

The only person that madara could be comparable to is Hagoromo and that’s only assuming he reached that lvl he’s not comparable to kaguya at all

Kaguya is > the juubi that was powering madara , madaras body was going to explode because it couldn’t hold all of the chakra that was forming kaguya, sasuke straight up says her chakra is on a completely different lvl compared to madara and he couldn’t believe someone like her could exist because of her power

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#76 Edited by Supermanthor (16359 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax said:

@supermanforever: The Momo fight pretty much proves Naruto isn't rusty, and Momo should be above Madara.

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#77 Edited by uchihaghost (716 posts) - - Show Bio

He stops at round 10, dual rinnegan juudara will beat the shit out of naruto, madara can pretty much do anything naruto can but more;

- naruto can shoot Bijuu damas? Madara can shoot juubi damas (juubi is stronger than bijuu)

- naruto has Rikudou senjutsu chakra? Madara has more rikudou senjutsu chakra

- Naruto has shadow clones?? Madara has limbo/wood/shadow clones

- Naruto has regeneration??? Madara has better regeneration.

- Naruto has kurama avatar?? Madara can use a juubi enhanced PS which will be much stronger than sasuke's BPS.

Add in the fact that he has planetary control of wood release (yea wood release suppressing energy is bad news for naruto because his power stems from kurama and we all know kurama hates that wood). And also the rinnegan techniques.

Madara is just flat out superior in everything.

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#78 Posted by Undre (2550 posts) - - Show Bio

@abc_voltage: madara litterly healing half dead and he didnt expect naruto to be that strong so he was caught of Guard. After that naruto couldn't touch. Are u suggesting base 6 paths naruto is stronger madara pre god tree. Even tho the sage said he was already close to his power. Yeah makes no sense. Buy your logic base 6 paths naruto>hagroomo>one rinnegan sage madara

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Clearly healing and half dead

Naruto or sasuke wasnt on hagrooms level till the end war when the got temporary amps. This was backed up by kurama. Madara mostly surpassed hagaroomo when he got his 3 eyes. Kaguya only had more chakra than madara but in overall stats madara takes it. She almost got blitzed sealed by naruto and sasuke at the beginning of their fight if not he teleportation. She had complete field advantage over naruto and sasuke and was still having trouble. She even had to separate them. Madara fought both of them on equal ground. Anyway she had to summon the jubi because she was getting wrecked so bad lol. If she was on different level she should have blized them both.

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#79 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@undre: when did I say naruto was > Hagoromo

I said naruto was also close to Hagoromos power after his amp since he put the version of madara that hagoromo said was close to him on his back then had him running and despite the claim you are trying to make madara himself denies , nothing suggests madara surpassed Hagoromo the most you could say is he reached his lvl , naruto and sasukes feats against kaguya does not magically downgrade her to be below madara , the only thing madara has that’s > kaguya is intelligence and combat ability other than that he’s just a watered down version of her , kaguya the majority of the fight wasn’t even trying kill them she wanted her chakra back , madara ran away from them to get his other eye because he couldn’t deal with them everything he did was either countered , dodged or blocked by either naruto or sasuke and even then after he got his other eye his ct were destroyed , his limbo were countered by narutos clones , his it was countered by sasukes rinnegan

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#80 Edited by ourmanuel (10541 posts) - - Show Bio

Momo isn’t above Madara by feats, only fanboyism and bad in-universe logic

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#81 Posted by UltimateSage (2030 posts) - - Show Bio

Mega BUMP!

Stops at 11 of clears.

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#82 Posted by uchihaghost (716 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto stops at round 10, he isn't beating 2 eyed shinjuu absorbed juudara due to various reasons, round 11 is spite because naruto has zero counters to IT which will oneshot him.