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#1 Edited by floydfromhell97 (511 posts) - - Show Bio
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Hashirama battle

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Madara(Reanimation)

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Rinnegan Madara(Reanimation)

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with fan

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Revived/Blind Madara

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Sage mode Madara

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One Rinnegan+Sage Mode Madara

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six paths madara(one eye Rinnegan-pre God tree)

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six paths madara(one eye Rin-Post God tree)

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DR+God Tree Juudara

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Rinnesharingan Juudara

Rules

  • Full power Naruto
  • Immortality is restricted
  • Naruto is moral on;Madara is moral off
  • 10 minutes prep for Naruto
  • He can use Truth Seeking Orbs
  • After rounds, he will be fully healed
  • Wins by Death or K.O

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#2 Posted by drgnx (3952 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears it

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#3 Edited by RikuYamaha (1480 posts) - - Show Bio

clears

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#4 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 11 of clears.

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#5 Posted by hurricanefunnel (2151 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx said:

Clears it

copy that

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#6 Posted by Supermanforever (7893 posts) - - Show Bio

stops at 9. Anyone saying clears is delusional Naruto fanboy.

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#7 Posted by Regime (484 posts) - - Show Bio

I can beat a bear barehanded. Anyone saying otherwise is delusional bear fanboy.

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#8 Posted by RikuYamaha (1480 posts) - - Show Bio

stops at 9. Anyone saying clears is delusional Naruto fanboy.

when naturo even before adult blitzes one rinnegan madara, lol

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#9 Posted by Supermanforever (7893 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever said:

stops at 9. Anyone saying clears is delusional Naruto fanboy.

when naturo even before adult blitzes one rinnegan madara, lol

He never blitzed Madara?

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#10 Edited by reaverlation (25844 posts) - - Show Bio

He clears. People who say otherwise is a Madara wanker

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#11 Posted by Supermanforever (7893 posts) - - Show Bio

He clears. People who say otherwise is a Madara wanker

Yeah right. How does he resits infinite tsukuyomi. Even if we delusionaly ignore everything else.

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#12 Posted by KingZod (3919 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears. As any competent Naruto debater would know

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#13 Posted by Megafanflash (755 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingzod said:

Clears. As any competent Naruto debater would know

Think I agree. Though it should be debatable on some level.

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#14 Posted by Drew10547 (22 posts) - - Show Bio

He could get to round 10 if he gets past round 10

( which I see as high difficulty fight on either side ) he’d stop at 11 only because of infinite tsukuyomi

( which is the only difference between 10 and 11 )

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#15 Posted by Raziel2014 (1259 posts) - - Show Bio

stops at full power madara for obvious reasons, madara has the juubi meaning his susanoo is leagues stronger than sasukes who tied with naruto after naruto release his plot no jutsu.

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#16 Posted by KingZod (3919 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingzod said:

Clears. As any competent Naruto debater would know

Think I agree. Though it should be debatable on some level.

There can only be an argument for round 10/11 (Don't understand why they're separated) Madara

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#17 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

@raziel2014: Juubadara bas never shown the ability to use PS actually he doesn't even have his old EMS does he?

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#18 Posted by katanalauncher (3601 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto should clear

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#19 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@raziel2014: At best it’s on par with bps sasuke used since they are powered by the exact same thing and naruto already matched that back in the war arc with the ashura avatar

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#20 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax: madara as a juubi host has never used susanoo the last time he used susanoo was right before he stabbed sasuke

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#21 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax: what’s so important about his old ems when he’s been using susanoo with the rinnegan right before he became a host

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#23 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax: edo eyes are fake thats why they disintegrated when he was revived , again what’s so special about his ems eyes when’s he’s been using the susanoo with the rinnegan as a edo and after he’s revived he’s again shown to be able to use susanoo with the rinnegan

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#25 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

@abc_voltage: he didn't use Susanoo with Rinniegan, he switch back and forth from EMS to Rinniegan and he doesn't have those eyes anymore.

Do you even Naruto?

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#26 Posted by reaverlation (25844 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax said:

@abc_voltage: he didn't use Susanoo with Rinniegan, he switch back and forth from EMS to Rinniegan and he doesn't have those eyes anymore.

Do you even Naruto?

Madara used Susanno with no eyes

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He clears. People who say otherwise is a Madara wanker

Yeah right. How does he resits infinite tsukuyomi. Even if we delusionaly ignore everything else.

IT being something Madara would never open up with. You can delusionaly ignore Naruto being superior

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#27 Edited by Supermanforever (7893 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation:

Why would he not use if he sees trouble? One eyed Madara was holding his own against both Naruto and Sasuke. If you think current Naruto is stronger give some feats atleast instead bold claims? What has he done post war arc that makes him superior to Madara?

Madara is absolutely superior in every category.

Rinnegan, juubi jincuriki, just as good if not better fighter. Has literaly all the powers Naruto has except for sage mode and more.

What do you think that Naruto would kill him before he uses IT? give me a single reason why.

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#28 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax: revived madara using susanoo without eyes and with the rinnegan

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#30 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

@abc_voltage: ok he can have partial how about Perfect Susanoo?

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#31 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax: he already showed he could do it with the rinnegan as a edo no reason to assume he can’t do it when he’s alive

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#32 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

@abc_voltage: that's no Juudara, I'm asking about Juudara what PS feat does he have?

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#33 Edited by ikbalsingh (17 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto beat Toneri with bsm alone and fought fused Momoshiki without using tsbs. Six Paths Sage Mode Adult Naruto with tsbs clears all of them.

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#34 Posted by weebbicboi (596 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 11

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#35 Posted by Abc_voltage (74 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax: I already said in my original comment madara as the juubi host never used susanoo , you seem fixated on him not having ems and claimed he didn’t use susanoo with the rinnegan which was a lie and I posted scans of him using susanoo with the rinnegan as a edo and after he was revived

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#36 Posted by reaverlation (25844 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation:

Why would he not use if he sees trouble? One eyed Madara was holding his own against both Naruto and Sasuke. If you think current Naruto is stronger give some feats atleast instead bold claims? What has he done post war arc that makes him superior to Madara?

Madara is absolutely superior in every category.

Rinnegan, juubi jincuriki, just as good if not better fighter. Has literaly all the powers Naruto has except for sage mode and more.

What do you think that Naruto would kill him before he uses IT? give me a single reason why.

One eyed Madara wasn't holding his own against both Naruto and Sasuke. The first two jutsus Madara used via Storm Release and Light Fang were casually dealt with by Naruto and/or Sasuke. Limbo was the only thing that caught Naruto and Sasuke off guard because their newly granted abilities allowed them to perceive the Limbo clones one way or another and Naruto took a hit from Limbo with no damage whatsoever. Madara was about to be sealed by Naruto and Sasuke early in the fight through a combination of Magnet Rasengan and Onyx Chidori (unnecessary since Naruto and Sasuke casually sealed Kaguya with just Chibaku Tensei). Madara fled the fight to receive his other Rinnegan. Naruto casually held his own against Madara and this was Naruto before fighting Kaguya and Sasuke where Naruto showed better experience and power with his new Six Paths powers and obtaining the other half of Kurama during the Last and as a Hokage. If Naruto decides to use a thousand shadow clones, something more consistent and in character for Naruto to do than Madara opening up with IT, Madara will lose. Or using the power of two tails to lop Madara's head off like Kaguya's arm. Or use the five tails to increase his strength that overpowered Kaguya. Or the tailed beast rasenshuriken to make Madara go unstable like against Kaguya. Or multiple Kurama avatars like against Sasuke. Or absorb nature energy via another clone like against Pain and Sasuke. Or another Lava rasenshuriken that made Madara run away after acknowledging Naruto's sudden power increase.

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#37 Posted by DevoidRuby (291 posts) - - Show Bio

Stomps 1-7 all at once easily.

Stomps the other with similar ease.

There's no way any Version of Madara can compete with Hokage Naruto, with 10 minutes prep that just gives Naruto time to summon 1000 Shadow Clones gather Nature Chakra and form those two massive Rasenshurikens to instantly obliterate Madara.

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#38 Edited by ourmanuel (10615 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on how much I get to wank madara’s statement of “I’m completely immortal”

But should stop at 11 or clear.

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#39 Edited by LoveEveryone (1116 posts) - - Show Bio

He could beat Round 10 going all out as a Teen. Let’s not forget he still has Magnet Sealing release Rasengan. He also didn’t go all out against Full Rinnegan Madara like he did against Kaguya and Sasuke. Actually considering how much time passed since then, He Probably clears.

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#40 Posted by Undre (2622 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 7 gedo statue one shots or limbo. If not 7. 8 for sure. Madara has wayy more chakra reserves and regen hokage naruto just can compete with that. If this was 6 paths war naruto i would still say 8. But hokage naruto is shityy and feats less he scales to shin uchiha and kage.

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#41 Posted by Supermanforever (7893 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation:

One eyed Madara wasn't holding his own against both Naruto and Sasuke. The first two jutsus Madara used via Storm Release and Light Fang were casually dealt with by Naruto and/or Sasuke.

So?

Limbo was the only thing that caught Naruto and Sasuke off guard because their newly granted abilities allowed them to perceive the Limbo clones one way or another and Naruto took a hit from Limbo with no damage whatsoever

Limbo is not the strongest Naruto ability. Secondly Naruto wouldnt even have clue if Sasuke did not explain what limbo actually was. In this battle he would only be able to sense it. Thats just it.

Madara was about to be sealed by Naruto and Sasuke early in the fight through a combination of Magnet Rasengan and Onyx Chidori

Madara was only tagged because Sasuke could use his amenotejikara and literaly teleport Madara in front of them to tag him? Secondly Madara quite easly could deal with it by changing place with limbo. With double eyes he would have 4 limbo were he can switch inbetween any limbo and take himself out of harms way. Without Sasukes teleportation jutsu they would not even tag him with that jutsu. Secondly Hokage Naruto does not have Yin yang chibaku tensei anymore aswell as yin yang seal requires both shadow and light styles. So in case you didnt see it Sasuke is not in this battle.

What does "about to be sealed" even mean? He quite easy dodged his way out of the attack by subbing a limbo instead. He could have casually tanked it and flied out of the way problem was the magnet style sealed to movement.

(unnecessary since Naruto and Sasuke casually sealed Kaguya with just Chibaku Tensei

Lol casually sealed kaguya? Is that so? In case you did not know they had a chance only due to Obitos kamui, without that Kaguya would have separated them and killed both 1 vs 1. They even barely could tag her with chibaku tensei using kamui, sakuras help and she didnt have limbo ability to sub herself. Not to mention once again Naruto does not have Sasuke in this battle, nor the seal.

Madara fled the fight to receive his other Rinnegan.

Nope he didnt know their abilities yet very well, also he realised taking both at the same time might be dangerous. So he went for the second eye to make it easier for himself. Talk about tactics and intelligence in battle were he can put his big ego aside and make sure he wins the battle.

Naruto casually held his own against Madara

Casually is big overestimation. Was pretty even fight. Not to mention Naruto had Sasuke alongside him entire time.

this was Naruto before fighting Kaguya and Sasuke where Naruto showed better experience and power with his new Six Paths powers and obtaining the other half of Kurama during the Last and as a Hokage.

He has not shown better experience with six path powers. Whatever he has done Madara has done aswell. What does six path powers even include? Aside from rasengan and kyuubi stuff. Madara has done whatever he did. He could perfectly use truth seeking balls in battle, not to mention he also had rinnegan above Naruto. Sasuke with single rinnegan could hold his own against Naruto.

The other half of kurama is complete overrated factor people use. Essentially its just his other half of chakra. First of all it was never stated in the manga that Naruto gained additional chakra by having seconf half of Kurama. But even if we include that he has doubled his chakra. It still is completely tiny comparrison to the chakra level Madara has. Juubi curbstomps both half of kyuubi in absolutely every way and had faaaaaaar more chakra than Naruto. In fact it was stated that Juubi was almost like a planet and when Naruto senses Juubi in sage mode. Kyuubi literaly was an ant in comparrison. Lastly he also absorbed the shinju tree.

Not to mention He has rinnegan, which had ridiculous amount of chakra. Sasuke with single rinnegan had enough chakra to take Naruto to his limits.

When it comes to chakra, having both half of kurama is nothing in comparrision to Madara. Its even laughable to argue this.

If Naruto decides to use a thousand shadow clones

In case you did not know. Madara can tell the difference between which clones of Naruto and original one with his rinnegan. He was the only one with this ability.

something more consistent and in character for Naruto to do than Madara opening up with IT

Madara would not use IT as opening attack, but if he realises he has not chance. He wont resist using it. Madara would surely not lose. He has healing factor that wrecks Narutos healing factor in every aspect. Has a rinnegan over him, far more chakra. Just as fast, can absorb, deflect and counter any jutsu Naruto has used in the verse. If they keep fighting Madara will come on top by long mile. The chakra levels he has are ridiculous, he will exhaust Naruto and kill him.

Or using the power of two tails to lop Madara's head off like Kaguya's arm.

Kaguya has not shown the same kind of combat speed and combat skills that Madara has shown. Just because he blitzed Kaguya does not mean he will do the same to Naruto when he failed to do so all the time.

Or use the five tails to increase his strength that overpowered Kaguya.

lol at overpowering Kaguya.

Or the tailed beast rasenshuriken to make Madara go unstable like against Kaguya.

Unlike shitty combat skills that Kaguya had. Madara can protect hismelf with truth seeking balls shield. You are talking as if Madara will be standing there and letting him do whatever he wants lmao.

Or multiple Kurama avatars like against Sasuke.

Yeah Madara would easly chibaku tensei those avatars. Not to mention he can pretty casually destroy those avatars.

Or absorb nature energy via another clone like against Pain and Sasuke.

Naruto can not absorb infinite amount of nature energy. There is a limit of how much you can absorb. But again as i said Juubi dwarfs him in that regard.

Or another Lava rasenshuriken that made Madara run away after acknowledging Naruto's sudden power increase.

Madara did not run, first of all he was still healing from Night gais attack. Secondly he used a jutsu to destroy Naruto but got ofguard and tagged because he had no idea Naruto now had the ability to sense limbo. Running does not mean being a coward. Being tactical in battle is what matters.

Not to mention when Madara got his both eyes back he came back with confidence like Naruto and Sasuke were fodder to him. That literaly against both of them. 1 vs 1 he will just pummel Naruto.

Naruto even stood chance against in first place because he had Sasuke in his side and both of them had shadow and light styles. Without that, their chances of actually beating him would be tiny.

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#42 Posted by Supermanforever (7893 posts) - - Show Bio

Stomps 1-7 all at once easily.

Stomps the other with similar ease.

There's no way any Version of Madara can compete with Hokage Naruto, with 10 minutes prep that just gives Naruto time to summon 1000 Shadow Clones gather Nature Chakra and form those two massive Rasenshurikens to instantly obliterate Madara.

There is so much garbage in this post i dont know were to even begin.

Hokage Naruto being stronger than war arc is just a myth. He only got second half of kurama and has no yin yang seal, second most powerfull jutsu in the verse which gave them even glims of hope of defeating madara.

Naruto can not absorb nature energy with thousands of clones. There are limits of how much nature chakra he can absorb. Or he will turn into a frog.

Two massive rasenshurikens will do jackshit against Madara. He will shield himself with Tsb shield and no sell it. Obito being weaker than him literaly no sold 4 juubidama from point blank range. Some you have absolutely no clue what you even talk about. No wonder this thread turned into Naruto wankfest.

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#43 Posted by DevoidRuby (291 posts) - - Show Bio

There is so much garbage in this post i dont know were to even begin.

Hokage Naruto being stronger than war arc is just a myth. He only got second half of kurama and has no yin yang seal, second most powerfull jutsu in the verse which gave them even glims of hope of defeating madara.

Naruto can not absorb nature energy with thousands of clones. There are limits of how much nature chakra he can absorb. Or he will turn into a frog.

Two massive rasenshurikens will do jackshit against Madara. He will shield himself with Tsb shield and no sell it. Obito being weaker than him literaly no sold 4 juubidama from point blank range. Some you have absolutely no clue what you even talk about. No wonder this thread turned into Naruto wankfest.

Then don't.

Except literally everything proves he is? Given how Sasuke got massively stronger and better with his Rinnegan, Naruto got years of training AND a Nine Tails half and is essentially a pseudo Juubi Jinchuuriki.

I didn't say his clones would absorb the Nature Chakra, I said he'd summon 1000 Clones, gather some Nature Chakra to then nuke Madara.

Even assuming Madara can tank 2 Massive Nature powered Rasenshuriken (Even when The Last BSM Naruto could bust TSB shields with Rasengans) how will Madara then overcome the literal army before him given that Teen Naruto's army was able to hold off Kaguya for a decent time.

Inb4 Teen Naruto > Hokage Naruto

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#44 Edited by Co-Boss (434 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say 10, I don't think Sasuke or naruto could 1v1 full juubi Madara (I still think he should have been the final bad guy).

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#45 Posted by reaverlation (25844 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation:

One eyed Madara wasn't holding his own against both Naruto and Sasuke. The first two jutsus Madara used via Storm Release and Light Fang were casually dealt with by Naruto and/or Sasuke.

So?

Limbo was the only thing that caught Naruto and Sasuke off guard because their newly granted abilities allowed them to perceive the Limbo clones one way or another and Naruto took a hit from Limbo with no damage whatsoever

Limbo is not the strongest Naruto ability. Secondly Naruto wouldnt even have clue if Sasuke did not explain what limbo actually was. In this battle he would only be able to sense it. Thats just it.

Madara was about to be sealed by Naruto and Sasuke early in the fight through a combination of Magnet Rasengan and Onyx Chidori

Madara was only tagged because Sasuke could use his amenotejikara and literaly teleport Madara in front of them to tag him? Secondly Madara quite easly could deal with it by changing place with limbo. With double eyes he would have 4 limbo were he can switch inbetween any limbo and take himself out of harms way. Without Sasukes teleportation jutsu they would not even tag him with that jutsu. Secondly Hokage Naruto does not have Yin yang chibaku tensei anymore aswell as yin yang seal requires both shadow and light styles. So in case you didnt see it Sasuke is not in this battle.

What does "about to be sealed" even mean? He quite easy dodged his way out of the attack by subbing a limbo instead. He could have casually tanked it and flied out of the way problem was the magnet style sealed to movement.

(unnecessary since Naruto and Sasuke casually sealed Kaguya with just Chibaku Tensei

Lol casually sealed kaguya? Is that so? In case you did not know they had a chance only due to Obitos kamui, without that Kaguya would have separated them and killed both 1 vs 1. They even barely could tag her with chibaku tensei using kamui, sakuras help and she didnt have limbo ability to sub herself. Not to mention once again Naruto does not have Sasuke in this battle, nor the seal.

Madara fled the fight to receive his other Rinnegan.

Nope he didnt know their abilities yet very well, also he realised taking both at the same time might be dangerous. So he went for the second eye to make it easier for himself. Talk about tactics and intelligence in battle were he can put his big ego aside and make sure he wins the battle.

Naruto casually held his own against Madara

Casually is big overestimation. Was pretty even fight. Not to mention Naruto had Sasuke alongside him entire time.

this was Naruto before fighting Kaguya and Sasuke where Naruto showed better experience and power with his new Six Paths powers and obtaining the other half of Kurama during the Last and as a Hokage.

He has not shown better experience with six path powers. Whatever he has done Madara has done aswell. What does six path powers even include? Aside from rasengan and kyuubi stuff. Madara has done whatever he did. He could perfectly use truth seeking balls in battle, not to mention he also had rinnegan above Naruto. Sasuke with single rinnegan could hold his own against Naruto.

The other half of kurama is complete overrated factor people use. Essentially its just his other half of chakra. First of all it was never stated in the manga that Naruto gained additional chakra by having seconf half of Kurama. But even if we include that he has doubled his chakra. It still is completely tiny comparrison to the chakra level Madara has. Juubi curbstomps both half of kyuubi in absolutely every way and had faaaaaaar more chakra than Naruto. In fact it was stated that Juubi was almost like a planet and when Naruto senses Juubi in sage mode. Kyuubi literaly was an ant in comparrison. Lastly he also absorbed the shinju tree.

Not to mention He has rinnegan, which had ridiculous amount of chakra. Sasuke with single rinnegan had enough chakra to take Naruto to his limits.

When it comes to chakra, having both half of kurama is nothing in comparrision to Madara. Its even laughable to argue this.

If Naruto decides to use a thousand shadow clones

In case you did not know. Madara can tell the difference between which clones of Naruto and original one with his rinnegan. He was the only one with this ability.

something more consistent and in character for Naruto to do than Madara opening up with IT

Madara would not use IT as opening attack, but if he realises he has not chance. He wont resist using it. Madara would surely not lose. He has healing factor that wrecks Narutos healing factor in every aspect. Has a rinnegan over him, far more chakra. Just as fast, can absorb, deflect and counter any jutsu Naruto has used in the verse. If they keep fighting Madara will come on top by long mile. The chakra levels he has are ridiculous, he will exhaust Naruto and kill him.

Or using the power of two tails to lop Madara's head off like Kaguya's arm.

Kaguya has not shown the same kind of combat speed and combat skills that Madara has shown. Just because he blitzed Kaguya does not mean he will do the same to Naruto when he failed to do so all the time.

Or use the five tails to increase his strength that overpowered Kaguya.

lol at overpowering Kaguya.

Or the tailed beast rasenshuriken to make Madara go unstable like against Kaguya.

Unlike shitty combat skills that Kaguya had. Madara can protect hismelf with truth seeking balls shield. You are talking as if Madara will be standing there and letting him do whatever he wants lmao.

Or multiple Kurama avatars like against Sasuke.

Yeah Madara would easly chibaku tensei those avatars. Not to mention he can pretty casually destroy those avatars.

Or absorb nature energy via another clone like against Pain and Sasuke.

Naruto can not absorb infinite amount of nature energy. There is a limit of how much you can absorb. But again as i said Juubi dwarfs him in that regard.

Or another Lava rasenshuriken that made Madara run away after acknowledging Naruto's sudden power increase.

Madara did not run, first of all he was still healing from Night gais attack. Secondly he used a jutsu to destroy Naruto but got ofguard and tagged because he had no idea Naruto now had the ability to sense limbo. Running does not mean being a coward. Being tactical in battle is what matters.

Not to mention when Madara got his both eyes back he came back with confidence like Naruto and Sasuke were fodder to him. That literaly against both of them. 1 vs 1 he will just pummel Naruto.

Naruto even stood chance against in first place because he had Sasuke in his side and both of them had shadow and light styles. Without that, their chances of actually beating him would be tiny.

So what? Madara was getting treated like a child.

I never said Limbo is the strongest ability or implied it so stop bringing in irrelevant assumptions. Limbo was the only thing that actual hit Naruto that Madara threw at him and did absolutely nothing to Naruto.

Not the point I'm bringing up regarding the instance where Madara was gonna be sealed. Madara was about to LOSE to both Naruto and Sasuke very early in the fight. Regarding Amenotejikara, Naruto has actually reacted to that ability better than Madara did and Naruto matched or outmatched Amenotejikara as well with raw speed.

You're still not understanding the point of Kaguya being sealed. Read above

Actually very casually and you being blind to the wanking you do for Madara isn't allowing you to accept facts. In no point did Madara ever overwhelm either Naruto or Sasuke while both of them had Madara on the ropes every time till he received his other Rinnegan and even then Madara still didn't since his Chibaku Tensei were destroyed with ease and his limbo clones were easily stalled by Naruto's shadow clones. You agree he ran away from them both for his other rinnegan anyways so you're finally seeing the light

The fact that Naruto was able to use his chakra properly to make over a thousand shadow clones? That Naruto learned his ability of flight? To utilize the chakra of the other tailed beasts within him to actually overwhelm Kaguya, he same Kaguya who's power is far greater than Madara? How Naruto actually made multiple Kurama Avatar clones against Sasuke? Or in the Last how Naruto can casually make Rasenshurikens with one hand in base and actually direct it's path like curving it? Or shooting his Rasengan like a beam?

The other half of Kurama overrated? Why do you think Madara became more powerful than Juubito after absorbing the tailed beasts? Because he absorbed all of Gyuki and a half of Kurama. Madara literally absorbed more chakra and because of that his power increased. Naruto has his chakra increased significantly receiving all of Kurama. I don't care if Madara has more chakra reserves than Naruto. So did Kaguya by a far amount according to Sasuke and Obito when he witnessed how powerful Kaguya was when he knows how strong Madara was. And Naruto still held his own against her.

Madara can't take on a thousand shadow clones the way Kaguya did since he ain't on her level.

IT is nothing more than Tsukiyomi on a planetary scale and Madara only used it one other time when Madara saved Obito as a kid. Madara will not use period. The rest of that paragraph is pointless

Haha at Madara being as fast as Kaguya. What other comparison will you come up with to justify Madara accomplishing feats Kaguya did? Madara in no shape or form showed to be faster than either Naruto or Sasuke even when receiving his other rinnegan. When it comes to raw speed, Kaguya is only one who's shown to be faster than Naruto and possibly Sasuke. Madara doesn't unfortunately

When Naruto increased his strength using the five tails, Naruto actually overpowered her in that instance. Stop misinterpreting what I say

Kaguya is faster than anyone in the series and yet couldn't do anything against the Tailed Beast Rasenshurikens despite being aware of them

Like Chibaku Tensei would slow down Naruto when the incomplete eight tails broke through Pain's Chibaku Tensei and Naruto is leagues more powerful than the Pain Arc. Madara would be hard pressed to take down those avatars since even the Bijuu Susanno couldn't

Naruto has ten minutes prep here. Naruto can literally make clones just like in the Pain Arc to absorb nature energy.

Of course Madara ran away haha and not seeing this without bias is ridiculous. Madara's healing factor had nothing to do with it by Madara's own words when he acknowledged Naruto's sudden power increase. Even Madara says along the lines of "this is bad" when Naruto begins using the Lava Rasenshuriken. If Madara could've done something about it, he would've. If he didn't absorb the God Tree, Madara would've definitely lost. Madara had confidence when he absorbed the God Tree yet Naruto and Sasuke had no trouble taking him on and Madara ran away again to get his other Rinnegan.

There's really nothing that Madara brings that's a big threat to Naruto other than Genjutsu. Naruto has fought beings in the same realm of power as his own or greater and accumulated battle experience that will overwhelm Madara. The only threat in this round is the last round. Naruto has taken on Kaguya, Sasuke, Toneri and Momoshiki and has done exceptionally well or outright won the fight or certain situations that Madara would pose barely a threat to.

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#46 Posted by Tektonic (1101 posts) - - Show Bio

@vummax said:

Stops at 11 of clears.

This.

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#47 Posted by deactivated-5c9011bc9c6e9 (616 posts) - - Show Bio

@co-boss said:

I would say 10, I don't think Sasuke or naruto could 1v1 full juubi Madara (I still think he should have been the final bad guy).

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#48 Posted by Grinningf0x (1467 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto just goes AA and stomps

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#49 Posted by Supermanforever (7893 posts) - - Show Bio

@devoidruby:

Except literally everything proves he is? Given how Sasuke got massively stronger and better with his Rinnegan,

Sasuke uses his rinnegan more effective. How does that apply as a factor in this battle?

Naruto got years of training AND a Nine Tails half and is essentially a pseudo Juubi Jinchuuriki.

Is that why Kurama said his battle senses are crap and he is literaly sitting behind a desk all the time. Saying he is somehow miles more skilled than in his war arc state is nothing more than an asspull. This is based on pure assumptions. Also Second half of Kurama is nothing but a tiny ant compared to Juubi. If you paied attention when Naruto senses juubi. Kyuubi in comparrison was an ant.

I didn't say his clones would absorb the Nature Chakra, I said he'd summon 1000 Clones, gather some Nature Chakra to then nuke Madara.

When did he make thousand clones that could absorb Nature chakra all the same time. Give me a scan. Nuking madara wont do shit, he can pretty much no sell any ninjutsu. Naruto has to use senjutsu to harm him. Not to mention he can quite easy tank anything Naruto ever produced with his tsb shield.

Even assuming Madara can tank 2 Massive Nature powered Rasenshuriken (Even when The Last BSM Naruto could bust TSB shields with Rasengans) how will Madara then overcome the literal army before him given that Teen Naruto's army was able to hold off Kaguya for a decent time.

Unlike Kaguya Madara can see the clones from the original body with his Rinnegan. Eh so many ways to overcome. Multichibaku tensei for instance. He did not hold Kaguya, he made clones to confuse her and bought some time before Sasuke was back.

Inb4 Teen Naruto > Hokage Naruto

I never said teen naruto>adult naruto. Though difference is minimal. Not to mention they stood a chance only due to yin yang seal.

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#50 Posted by deactivated-5c531dce659a2 (1106 posts) - - Show Bio

@supermanforever: The Momo fight pretty much proves Naruto isn't rusty, and Momo should be above Madara.