hit vs midora, toriko, acacia

Can you prove that he can attack the person in the other dimension? Because he has never done so.

@emperorthanos: I think a bomb inside one stomach will hurt your haert and regardless toriko character had survived much wors like midora having half his face incinerate and he came back or ichiryu being eaten by midora hungry tongue over half his body and was able to come back due to food end

I barely understand what you are saying here.

Midora has regenerated thanks to minority world. He can't use minority world if he is dead.

Hit wins.

@emperorthanos:

Well a couple things. It doesn't matter how versatile the attack is. Because in the end it comes down to who uses it first. If they were to use it at the exact same time then Hit would edge out. Because time stop occurs instantly. While Minority world doesn't scatter your molecules instantly. We saw that with Joa and it was how Acacia had time to stop it from happeneing. Minority world has never reversed time manip, so there is reason to believe he would be able to do so.

It doesn't matter if MW doesn't scatter your molecules instantly. Midora seemingly just needs to think to activate it, and once activated it would erase Hit in a few seconds at most, or start reversing his physiology.

And just time freezing Midora is only half the job done, Hit still needs to strike him, and MW would make him miss.

MW won't reverse Time manip, but I am hoping it would reverse Hit;s effect on Midora's molecules.

Another question, can the victims think while in Hit's time freeze, because apparently that's what Midora needs to activate nearly all his moves.

Then there is second important factor. What they would do in character. Midora only used Minority world offensively once in a fight. Against Joa in their rematch. Against Acacia he never actually scattered his molecules. Just redirect attacks as a defensive measure. Acacia has no immunity to it because his attacks can be reversed. So that would mean in character he wouldn't resort to using such an attack.

He practically spammed it against Joa in their first fight, and used it as a finishing move in their second fight. And he did use it offensively against Acacia, when he vaporized Acacia's Gourmet Hand spam. My guess is that he didn't use it directly to scatter Acacia because he knew Acacia would resist it due to his incredible regeneration (I mean the dude practically no sold Hungry Space).

While it is very in character for Hit to use time manip to kill someone. It is his go to move.

Fair enough, but even if Midora doesn't start with MW (which I'd say there's a 50% chance of actually), the moment he gets frozen, he would immediately activate MW, and there goes Hit's chance of tagging him (provided he can think in this state of course).

@shirso:

It doesn't matter if MW doesn't scatter your molecules instantly. Midora seemingly just needs to think to activate it, and once activated it would erase Hit in a few seconds at most, or start reversing his physiology.

Hit would have frozen time before that would happen.That's if he resorts to using it. Midora has never started a fight with Minority world in character. regardless of who he has faced.

Another question, can the victims think while in Hit's time freeze, because apparently that's what Midora needs to activate nearly all his moves.

They are completely frozen in time. They can't think or do anything else. In fact they have no idea that time was even frozen even after it is released. That alone proves that they can't think during it.

He practically spammed it against Joa in their first fight, and used it as a finishing move in their second fight. And he did use it offensively against Acacia, when he vaporized Acacia's Gourmet Hand spam. My guess is that he didn't use it directly to scatter Acacia because he knew Acacia would resist it due to his incredible regeneration (I mean the dude practically no sold Hungry Space).

He didn't spam minority world. All we know is that he attacked 8 times which destroyed her orbs. Unless your saying he attacked her with Minority world at that time, but we dont know that for sure and he so many other attacks that could have been used. Then he blasted here with Meteor Spice.

Vaporizing the gourmet hand attack is defensive. He was stopping the attack. That's not really the same thin as using it directly on. Acacia has great reegen but he enver regenerated from his molecules being complete scattered.

Fair enough, but even if Midora doesn't start with MW (which I'd say there's a 50% chance of actually), the moment he gets frozen, he would immediately activate MW, and there goes Hit's chance of tagging him (provided he can think in this state of course).

Except he can't think at that moment. He is completely frozen in time so he won't even know what's happening. You can't think when time is frozen, you can't do anything at all.

This shit is still on? Hit stalemated someone who can destroy a universe, and then stalemated a stronger version of the same dude. Toriko tops are not even star busters. Hit can breath on them and atomize them on spot.

One dimensional punch and it all over for toriko team...

@shirso: lol...piccolo wreck them

@omriamar: lol...base vegeta is more than enough to stomp torikoverse

have you ever heard on ultimate routine????

hit handily

Hit's raw power is enough to kill anyone over here.What ever advantage Toriko team has in numbers is negated by time skip and intangibility

BUMP

@omriamar: vegeta will laugh it off

INB4 Hit dragon ball speed lowballing.

@jasonhitto: toriko vers power bypass durability and they have MFTL speed + time manipulation so he aint laughing on anyone here i don't care how strong vegeta is or his DC, this guys are the reel deel!

Hit gets overwhelmed.

Still Hit TBH.

Still Hit, no need to bumb this if Hit is getting stonger and stronger as the series progress

@emperorthanos: @thedarkpaladin:

Atleast DB toptiers have finally been confirmed FTL since the last episode.

Hit still stomps

@omriamar: hit phase their brain out

@thedarkpaladin: overwhelmed by planet buster?lol ok

@hittheassasin: Indeed. Finally some confirmation that DB characters, other than GoDs and Angels, are FTL.

@jasonhitto: Overwhelmed by guys with superior raw physicals, DC, and a wider variety of hax.

Hit still solos the verse with a pinky.

Hit stomps

Hit still stomps.

@jasonhitto: I'm not so sure about that but even if he does their is a little technique name food luck and minority world combined with some what of infinite regeneration means that it won't work, but he can BFR them if he wants he's faster and willd time manipulation asweel as dimension too

@omriamar: Hits time manipulation, phasing and speed higher than anyone in Toriko is too much.

@gaoron said:

@gaoron:that is true but toriko vers have more tools than just that and i dont see how hit can bypass food luck or minorty world or literally getting eaten alive by acacia who is highly underrated here trust he is more than capable of doing that

You can say Hit has this and that over the Toriko verse but you could never actually give a showing of him having better speed, time manipulation, phasing or dc. I mean legit on screen or page showings that surpass those in Toriko verse. You can go by exposition and A>B>C logic or outliers but the showings are not there. I love DB but it has become more about narration feats than anything actually impressive on screen.

Hit has now adapted to FTL speed as a fact and not scaling. He also is able to move as fast, so he is FTL for sure now. He can also one shot with accurate shots to vital body parts. He also has intangibility. Hit is more than a one trick pony. Hit wins this.

Lies. Yes, he adapted to Dyspo's FTL speeds, but he never suddenly became FTL himself. He simply tricked Dyspo a few times by not using Time Skip and that's how he eventually won. If it's true that Toriko, Midora and Acacia are FTL then Hit get's overwhelmed cause here's 3 opponents that has at least similar speed to Dyspo. The team also has better raw physicals. And nobody has shown a way how Hit can get past the Team's variety of hax.

@antonio_1996: Noone in Toriko has speed on Dyspo level. Dyspo is atleast trilions c. I dont remember anyone in Toriko having speed like that. And Hit at the end of the episode was as fast as Dyspo and countered his attack.

Yeah, from what I hear DBS power scaling is so inconsistent they may as well be unusable in cross-universe battles.

@antonio_1996: Champa can move, talk and perceive things while moving trilions times SoL yet he was blitzed by Dyspo. And no Dyspo wasnt worn down after one hit from Goku.

Still back Toriko's team.

@antonio_1996: I agree that Trillions of times FTL is a gross exaggeration but, Dyspo is still very much so MFTL+.

Toppo stated that Dyspo's base speed is FTL & Dyspo later went on to claim that he can move 1000s of times faster for an instant.

Again, bullshit. You keep on claiming trillions, yet give no evidence to back it up. This isn't even up for debate. Nothing in the manga or anime supports your claims so until you have something to back up your position don't tag me.

I'll have to watch that episode again to confirm this, but at least we agree on one thing.

@antonio_1996: There are multiple calcs that put Whis casual speed at trilions times SoL, Vados is his equal if not slightly faster. Champa can move, react and perceive things while traveling with Vados. Dyspo moved faster than Champa perceptions those faster than Vados casual travel speed.

what happened? I dropped the anime long ass time ago

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