Hit vs Golden Frieza

When did vegeta say golden freeza is weaker than them?

Golden freeza completely stomped goku and was playing with him.

Vegeta said that they are near their limit and won't increase that much so training in RoSaT is useless. He even denied using RoSaT, but when goku insisted, he agreed.

They have said they reached their limits before in z, I doubt they really did tbh seeing as how they have always managed to get stronger. Plus I believe Toriyama is likely to make the stronger before the show ends.

Well its possible they could get stronger....I would prefer to believe they don't have limits to the levels they can reach. But they don't really have any feats that exceed there previous showings within this arc. So there really isn't any proof they became much stronger from what I have seen. All though we'll wait and see Goku's new technique.

@apex_pretador said:

@never_give_up said:

Hit obviously he owned Vegeta after 2 years in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

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@poeticwarrior said:

@sirfizzwhizz said:

Why do so many beings look like Frieza?

Toriyama can't draw different faces. Frieza looks like Piccolo, the facial structure, eye shapes. He has around 3-4 faces he based all of his characters on.

@frocharocha said:

@sirfizzwhizz said:

Why do so many beings look like Frieza?

excelent question

@julyiscool said:

Golden Frieza blows up the planet...

I think it is very likely that hit can survive in space, he's so badass I mean.

However, he won't be able to. Hit was able to blitz vegeta before he could shoot a (BBA??) attack or land a punch thanks to his time-skip.

And OP says hit is serious, not bound by tournament rules - kills golden freeza before he can do anything to planet.

@sun-wukong said:

Hit destroys him with ease

Hit somewhat equals SSjB in the universe 6 arc. And SSJB in the universe 6 arc >>>> SSJB who fought Frieza since they trained for 3 more years.

Proof? DBS vegeta says otherwise.

@irhp87 said:

There was a scene where he does some significant damage to Vegeta in the ending spoilers (or whatever they are called) of last week's DBS. Vegeta is above Golden Frieza, so if Hit can go toe-to-toe with Vegeta, then I believe Hit can also take Golden Frieza.

However, being based on a few clips, I have only minor faith in this assessment, but I think I am right.

No, he isn't.

He only won because freeza was completely exhausted.

I doubt hit would be able to survive in space

Also, Golden Freeza was definitely stronger than SSJB Goku/Vegeta

@drew6670:How would he survive the planet busting

I have no idea. Never seen him be on an exploding planet. May never see that cause the whole champa arc is gonna end but I doubt he'd simply lose because of an exploding planet. If he can fly and breathe in space then I think he'll be fine.

The amount of times I was tagged in this lol.

Unless Frieza destroys the planet (which would be another debate about if Hitto could survive) Hitto should win. Time Stop for a tenth of a second might not sound like alot of time, but for someone already as fast as hitto combined with Vital Attacks that should give him the win.

@drew6670 said:

@julyiscool said:

@apex_pretador said:

@never_give_up said:

Hit obviously he owned Vegeta after 2 years in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

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@poeticwarrior said:

@sirfizzwhizz said:

Why do so many beings look like Frieza?

Toriyama can't draw different faces. Frieza looks like Piccolo, the facial structure, eye shapes. He has around 3-4 faces he based all of his characters on.

@frocharocha said:

@sirfizzwhizz said:

Why do so many beings look like Frieza?

excelent question

@julyiscool said:

Golden Frieza blows up the planet...

I think it is very likely that hit can survive in space, he's so badass I mean.

However, he won't be able to. Hit was able to blitz vegeta before he could shoot a (BBA??) attack or land a punch thanks to his time-skip.

And OP says hit is serious, not bound by tournament rules - kills golden freeza before he can do anything to planet.

@sun-wukong said:

Hit destroys him with ease

Hit somewhat equals SSjB in the universe 6 arc. And SSJB in the universe 6 arc >>>> SSJB who fought Frieza since they trained for 3 more years.

Proof? DBS vegeta says otherwise.

@irhp87 said:

There was a scene where he does some significant damage to Vegeta in the ending spoilers (or whatever they are called) of last week's DBS. Vegeta is above Golden Frieza, so if Hit can go toe-to-toe with Vegeta, then I believe Hit can also take Golden Frieza.

However, being based on a few clips, I have only minor faith in this assessment, but I think I am right.

No, he isn't.

He only won because freeza was completely exhausted.

I doubt hit would be able to survive in space

Hit and Frost both went outside of the atmosphere barrier Vados made so that everyone could breathe. This likely proves that Hit can indeed survive in a vacuum without air.

@omni_troll said:

@apex_pretador:

When did vegeta say golden freeza was still stronger than them? Golden freeza was barely stronger than them back when Goku fought him. The fight was near even. 3 years of training in ROSAT is more than enough to usurp that small gap. Golden Freeza is a none factor now just like ever previous villain.

Hit and Za Warudo

Also, Golden Freeza was definitely stronger than SSJB Goku/Vegeta

Yes, Golden Frieza in Super was stronger than SSGSS Goku, but not by a large margin. Betwew Hit is confirmed to be weaker in strenght and durability then SSGSS Vegeta and Goku.

While suppressed he was able to compete against Vegeta in his Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form and swiftly defeat him without much effort thanks to his utilization of time skip and vital point attacks, though it should also be noted that Vegeta was probably not at his peak due to fighting three fighters in a row. Vegeta notes that Hit is not focusing on defense, and a single blow from Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta would be enough to take him down. It is noted by Beerus that in his suppressed state, his strength is as below the godly transformation, as seen when Goku in base form was able to block his attacks (after a series of trial-and-error).

Way to much hax in universe 6....

god damn super power scaling. Base Goku doing better against Hit than God Vegeta makes no sense, lol.

If Golden Frieza knows Hit's power then he would beat Hit as of ep 38, however Hit hasn't gone all out yet. We'll have to see next weak how strong full power Hit is.

@apex_pretador said:

@never_give_up said:

Hit obviously he owned Vegeta after 2 years in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

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@poeticwarrior said:

@sirfizzwhizz said:

Why do so many beings look like Frieza?

Toriyama can't draw different faces. Frieza looks like Piccolo, the facial structure, eye shapes. He has around 3-4 faces he based all of his characters on.

@frocharocha said:

@sirfizzwhizz said:

Why do so many beings look like Frieza?

excelent question

@julyiscool said:

Golden Frieza blows up the planet...

I think it is very likely that hit can survive in space, he's so badass I mean.

However, he won't be able to. Hit was able to blitz vegeta before he could shoot a (BBA??) attack or land a punch thanks to his time-skip.

And OP says hit is serious, not bound by tournament rules - kills golden freeza before he can do anything to planet.

@sun-wukong said:

Hit destroys him with ease

Hit somewhat equals SSjB in the universe 6 arc. And SSJB in the universe 6 arc >>>> SSJB who fought Frieza since they trained for 3 more years.

Proof? DBS vegeta says otherwise.

@irhp87 said:

There was a scene where he does some significant damage to Vegeta in the ending spoilers (or whatever they are called) of last week's DBS. Vegeta is above Golden Frieza, so if Hit can go toe-to-toe with Vegeta, then I believe Hit can also take Golden Frieza.

However, being based on a few clips, I have only minor faith in this assessment, but I think I am right.

No, he isn't.

He only won because freeza was completely exhausted.

You're clearly not understanding why Vegeta is stronger than Golden Frieza. Goku was below Golden Frieza during the time he fought with him but was able to hold his own a bit even before Golden Frieza weakened. Vegeta is close to Goku's PL, too. Consider now that Vegeta has received even more years of training since then and we know for a fact that Vegeta is at least, bare minimum lowball, on par with Golden Frieza. You could argue that there is no proof and to that I'll concede, but that'd be a copout.

Hit stomps......... why wouldn't he? His time skip and his skills as a combatant were easily enough to beat Vegeta......so why would Frieza beat him?

Wasn't Golden Frieza stronger than SSB Goku, until he lost control of his powers?

@irhp87: In DBS, freeza COMPLETELY dominated SSB goku.

I'll have to watch it again, but I don't recall it being much different than the film, just longer so maybe it seems like more of a domination. Or perhaps your definition of "complete domination" is different than mine; some say Vegeta completely dominated Jeice in the anime but I disagree, for example.

Hit wins via lag switch.

Yeah he was, but Goku and Vegeta trained together in the RoSaT before the universe 6 tournament. They're no doubt stronger than Golden Frieza now.

Hit IMO.

Hit IMO.

Hit lolstomps

Hit murders him.

Frieza won't get the chance to destroy the planet.

This^^^

Does Frieza even have vitals?

Hit is doing better than Frieza did. The winner is obvious.

He should. Don't think it was ever explicit if he did or did not though, but granted Hitto surgically took down Frost I'd say he had something to work with lol.

@micah007123: Well Frieza is able to survive in multiple pieces. He was even alive when he was completely chopped up after he was revived in RoF.

Yeah I can't really explain that. Mutants like him are extremely hard to kill permanently, he could have vitals it's just that even chopping him to pieces won't kill him permanently. Kinda functioning like Deadpool.

The timestop hax 2 OP

Plus Hit survived hits from Kaioken x fudging 10 SSB Goku so he stomps

Hit in a massive stomp.

This isn't even a matter of power. Frieza has absolutely no answer for timeleap; he has neither the tactical understanding to figure it out, nor the martial ability to predict his movements like Goku did, even if he could.

Hit ends this in no more than 3 moves.

Seeing as how Frost and Frieza are 1 in the same in regards to race, he should be dismantled very easily...

monaka is able to defeat hit, because monaka is powerless. you can say if opponent punch strong then hit able to handle that. but if punch is very light then he don't have power to handle the light attack. you can watch db super episode here animoblast.net

@shivang56: lol wut?Hit lost on purpose bro...

Hit stomps. Dunno why people say Frieza was winning against SSB Goku. If he was, it definitely wasn't apparent and if further analysis of the fight is required whereas Hit clearly beat Vegeta, Hit wins.

Hit effortlessly

Hit

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Hit still Godstomps

Considering Hit beat SSB Kaioken Goku, he godstomps Frieza into oblivion with little effort. This post was decent at the time it was created, but at this point it's ridiculous.

Hit. His time skipping alone makes him nearly unbeatable, add his focus to vitals and his endless improvement which seems to rival even the Saiyan counterpart.

Hit zero shoots. He kills Frieza with shockwave from his punch.

Hit

the gap between pre champa tournament goku and tournament goku is ocean wide, due to the 3 years of training done in the ROSAT with vegeta. hit godstomps

Frieza bas gotten much stronger as seen in episode 94 & 95 where he has mastered his golden form. I can't say for sure who though because tee haven't seen Hit or Frieza be defeated at their best (in ROF, Frieza still hasn't mastered his golden form, but when he had stamina he was above Goku. Both have gotten much better though)

Frieza could prolly take a couple but I think Hit could take a majority. Resisting Destruction Energy of any kind with raw power is very impressive. Also not sure if Frieza his typical vitals.

Hit because frieza isn't a tactical fighter or as skilled as goku in martial arts so he would never understand whats happening.

But he is probably stronger.