I felt like laughing and cringing
So Naruto and Hit have equal stats and full knowledge of each others abilities.
Let the games begin
I felt like laughing and cringing
So Naruto and Hit have equal stats and full knowledge of each others abilities.
Let the games begin
@mainjp: yeah. Anything with Dragon ball and Naruto in the same sentence is bait
Hit prob. One shots unless Naruto can sense him in the other dimension like he did with Madara's limbo which I doubt.
Stats equalized but Chakra is still =/= Ki
And the only way to overpower hit is to have a ki stronger or as strong as him.
So Hit wins
Hit
Better fighter in terms of hand to hand
Much more experience as he’s over 1,000 years old
More hax techniques
Smarter
Also naruto was losing horribly to obito before kakashi came in and hit can actually attack while he’s in his dimension unlike obito
Hit
Better fighter in terms of hand to hand
Much more experience as he’s over 1,000 years old
More hax techniques
Smarter
Also naruto was losing horribly to obito before kakashi came in and hit can actually attack while he’s in his dimension unlike obito
rasengan wreck hit
go back to ur dB cult
@daysinthewest: Lol, this guy. Rasengan aint doing shit
@daysinthewest: nope hit has tanked far more than naruto can dish out
lol what even is this thread, hit can already contend and beat people who heavily outstat him
naruto doesnt even know what to do with multi-galaxy level+ potency or mftl movement, he's never even been that strong before so this thread is pratically agaisnt the rules because you're giving one character unreasonable buffs.
little girl spiderman saved from a fire from issue 12 of spiderman with hulk stats vs pre retcon beyonder with mouse stats
@daysinthewest: nope hit has tanked far more than naruto can dish out
fanon , why your always trolling
@daysinthewest: Lol, this guy. Rasengan aint doing shit
kabuto almost died from rasengan
Hit has by far superior hax.
1. Invisible, selectivelly intangible energy attacks that can cause precise damage even on pressure-point scale.
2. Stopping time and trapping people within time.
3. Crossing dimesions and leaving independently acting afterimages at will, attacking from another dimensions
4. Absurdly high adaptabiity skills
5. over 1000 years of fighting experience.
Compared to that, Naruto's skills sound like a joke, no matter the stats.
So Hit is put down to Base Naruto?
Wouldn't Naruto just go sage mode + Kurama + EOS and have an advantage in addition to his extreme healing factor and greater endurance?
He can also hurt Hit with chakra arms that can change direction and Frog Katas, which he doesn't need to touch hit to hurt him.
They both have Hax.
Hit stomps 10/10. Naruto can't handle time skip, being phased, or intagibility.
Hit doesn't know about Naruto's chakra arms and frog katas. Naruto has a healing factor too, he can have a hole blown in his stomach and heal instantly.
Honestly, if Hit is put down to Naruto's base level, Naruto has a huge advantage going EOS mode where he goes from a few tonner to a 100+ tonner.
In addition, he can create 100s of EOS clones with the same stats because of his giant pool of chakra.
I think this fight is more even than you're making it out to be.
I'm not saying Naruto wins. I'm just playing devils advocate.
Hit stomps 10/10. Naruto can't handle time skip, being phased, or intagibility.
Hit doesn't know about Naruto's chakra arms and frog katas. Naruto has a healing factor too, he can have a hole blown in his stomach and heal instantly.
Honestly, if Hit is put down to Naruto's base level, Naruto has a huge advantage going EOS mode where he goes from a few tonner to a 100+ tonner.
In addition, he can create 100s of EOS clones with the same stats because of his giant pool of chakra.
I think this fight is more even than you're making it out to be.
I'm not saying Naruto wins. I'm just playing devils advocate.
Hit in character always goes with the time stop. Lifting feat has nothing to do with strikes or blunt attacks. Even without Timeskip Hit can stay in his temporal dimension and attack from there without being touched or phased by anything while Naruto would only get one shot each time hit uses his intangible ki or Assassination moves.
Naruto would eventually run out of chakra even if he survives the beating somehow.
Hit stomps 10/10. Naruto can't handle time skip, being phased, or intagibility.
Hit doesn't know about Naruto's chakra arms and frog katas. Naruto has a healing factor too, he can have a hole blown in his stomach and heal instantly.
Honestly, if Hit is put down to Naruto's base level, Naruto has a huge advantage going EOS mode where he goes from a few tonner to a 100+ tonner.
In addition, he can create 100s of EOS clones with the same stats because of his giant pool of chakra.
I think this fight is more even than you're making it out to be.
I'm not saying Naruto wins. I'm just playing devils advocate.
Hit in character always goes with the time stop. Lifting feat has nothing to do with strikes or blunt attacks. Even without Timeskip Hit can stay in his temporal dimension and attack from there without being touched or phased by anything while Naruto would only get one shot each time hit uses his intangible ki or Assassination moves.
Naruto would eventually run out of chakra even if he survives the beating somehow.
The lifting and striking was a representation of his durability as well. The fact that he can lift 100 tons means his skeletal structure, etc have greatly increased to support these types of physicals. He is as durable as he is strong. Otherwise, the force of him lifting and throwing a building size Rhino sky high into the air should have shattered his own bones. Even with Hit's time skip, where has he used it on someone that has become 100 times stronger than himself? I can think of Jiren. That sounds silly right? Bringing up Jiren? Well think of it this way. If Hit = Base Naruto, and Naruto becomes 100s of times stronger in his EOS form, then do the math. Hit is fighting someone that is 100X his physicals now.
That's like making Hit's stats equal to base Goku, but then Goku can access SS2.
Hit and Naruto are at the same levels. Naruto has an ability that can increase his strength 100 fold, that's not accounting Kurama mode and EOS.
Also, Naruto has a healing factor, he can heal organs instantly. Heck, he can heal other peoples organs instantly also. With kurama alone, he can have giant holes ripped into his organs and he'll heal.
So I see a few things here.
1. First off, Hit would have to be strong enough to hurt EOS Naruto in the first place. Hit needs feats and showings of himself hurting someone that is become 100s of times stronger than himself.
2. Assuming if Hit can even hurt someone that has become 100s of times stronger, this person can also heal near instantly.
If Hit's physicals are equal to EOS Naruto, then he should win. But if his physicals are equal to Base Naruto, I'm starting to believe he loses. He can't damage or permanently put EOS Naruto down.
Hit stomps.
Hit stomps 10/10. Naruto can't handle time skip, being phased, or intagibility.
Hit doesn't know about Naruto's chakra arms and frog katas. Naruto has a healing factor too, he can have a hole blown in his stomach and heal instantly.
Honestly, if Hit is put down to Naruto's base level, Naruto has a huge advantage going EOS mode where he goes from a few tonner to a 100+ tonner.
In addition, he can create 100s of EOS clones with the same stats because of his giant pool of chakra.
I think this fight is more even than you're making it out to be.
I'm not saying Naruto wins. I'm just playing devils advocate.
Hit in character always goes with the time stop. Lifting feat has nothing to do with strikes or blunt attacks. Even without Timeskip Hit can stay in his temporal dimension and attack from there without being touched or phased by anything while Naruto would only get one shot each time hit uses his intangible ki or Assassination moves.
Naruto would eventually run out of chakra even if he survives the beating somehow.
The lifting and striking was a representation of his durability as well. The fact that he can lift 100 tons means his skeletal structure, etc have greatly increased to support these types of physicals. He is as durable as he is strong. Otherwise, the force of him lifting and throwing a building size Rhino sky high into the air should have shattered his own bones. Even with Hit's time skip, where has he used it on someone that has become 100 times stronger than himself? I can think if Jiren, and yes this is an acceptable comparison.
Hit and Naruto are at the same levels. Naruto has an ability that can increase his strength 100 fold, that's not accounting Kurama mode and EOS.
Also, Naruto has a healing factor, he can heal organs instantly. Heck, he can heal other peoples organs instantly also. With kurama alone, he can have giant holes ripped into his organs and he'll heal.
So I see a few things here.
1. First off, Hit would have to be strong enough to hurt EOS Naruto in the first place. Hit needs feats and showings of himself hurting someone that is become 100s of times stronger than himself.
2. Assuming if Hit can even hurt someone that has become 100s of times stronger, this person can also heal near instantly.
If Hit's physicals are equal to EOS Naruto, then he should win. But if his physicals are equal to Base Naruto, I'm starting to believe he loses. He can't damage or permanently put EOS Naruto down.
This is equal stat match, Hit through scaling alone would lift a lot more than few 100s of tons.
Secondly, it's not mentioned its base Naruto so you are assuming I am not. The OP clearly meant they are equal in stat no one is overcoming anything with stat here.
By the time Naruto figures out Hit's timeskip he's dead. There aren't a lot of space-time users in the Narutoverse. Make mine Hit.
EDIT: Equaling the stats seals Naruto's fate. Because you have to have more ki for strength and speed to overcome Hit's timeskip; that is literallyhow Goku did it. Even if we're going to say Naruto is as skilled as Goku (spoiler alert: he's not), not having a stat advantage makes it impossible for Naruto to counter effectively.
@sy8008: @slimj87d: you can’t amp yourself in equal stats unless the op says it works, as soon as he powers up, it equalizes his stats back to what hit was put at.
So hit fodderizes naruto by blitzing him with timeskip, or using nerve strikes to take out his chakra, or killing him in stepped time, or killing him while in a separate space time dimension...
Hit has every single advantage possible.
1. Hit has better speed with time skip or stop.
2. Hit can block naruto’s chakra, but naruto can’t block hit’s ki( nerve strikes do that in naruto).
3. Hit can make every attack of his completely impossible to dodge, and impossible to block, as well as being a one hit kill.
4. Hit can dodge any attack of naruto’s, and naruto can do nothing about it.
5. Hit can hide in a separate space/time, while still attacking naruto...
6. Hit has a thousand years of experience on naruto
7. Hit can adapt to abilities, fighting styles, or even stat advantages, countering them in seconds, while constantly upgrading his own abilities mid fight.
@kingfrieza: I almost forgot how Hit hit multiple vital points on Vegeta making him unable to use any ki and being put down, he can do the same to Naruto without needing to make noticeable holes or damages.
@kingfrieza: Nerve strikes would be useless. What Neji did was disrupt Naruto's chakra flow which Hit can't do. Normal nerve strikes would be useless against healing.
Hit doesn't know about Naruto's chakra arms and frog katas. Naruto has a healing factor too, he can have a hole blown in his stomach and heal instantly.
Honestly, if Hit is put down to Naruto's base level, Naruto has a huge advantage going EOS mode where he goes from a few tonner to a 100+ tonner.
In addition, he can create 100s of EOS clones with the same stats because of his giant pool of chakra.
I think this fight is more even than you're making it out to be.
I'm not saying Naruto wins. I'm just playing devils advocate.
Hit in character always goes with the time stop. Lifting feat has nothing to do with strikes or blunt attacks. Even without Timeskip Hit can stay in his temporal dimension and attack from there without being touched or phased by anything while Naruto would only get one shot each time hit uses his intangible ki or Assassination moves.
Naruto would eventually run out of chakra even if he survives the beating somehow.
The lifting and striking was a representation of his durability as well. The fact that he can lift 100 tons means his skeletal structure, etc have greatly increased to support these types of physicals. He is as durable as he is strong. Otherwise, the force of him lifting and throwing a building size Rhino sky high into the air should have shattered his own bones. Even with Hit's time skip, where has he used it on someone that has become 100 times stronger than himself? I can think if Jiren, and yes this is an acceptable comparison.
Hit and Naruto are at the same levels. Naruto has an ability that can increase his strength 100 fold, that's not accounting Kurama mode and EOS.
Also, Naruto has a healing factor, he can heal organs instantly. Heck, he can heal other peoples organs instantly also. With kurama alone, he can have giant holes ripped into his organs and he'll heal.
So I see a few things here.
1. First off, Hit would have to be strong enough to hurt EOS Naruto in the first place. Hit needs feats and showings of himself hurting someone that is become 100s of times stronger than himself.
2. Assuming if Hit can even hurt someone that has become 100s of times stronger, this person can also heal near instantly.
If Hit's physicals are equal to EOS Naruto, then he should win. But if his physicals are equal to Base Naruto, I'm starting to believe he loses. He can't damage or permanently put EOS Naruto down.
This is equal stat match, Hit through scaling alone would lift a lot more than few 100s of tons.
Secondly, it's not mentioned its base Naruto so you are assuming I am not. The OP clearly meant they are equal in stat no one is overcoming anything with stat here.
I didn't assume anything. OP did not clarify, so I stated my opinion in both scenarios. It's what you do instead of "making a new thread" with just minor changes.
We should discuss all scenarios and rule out all possibilities.
He amps his stats then blitzes
Because that worked so well for Goku LMAOOOOOO.
@sy8008: @slimj87d: you can’t amp yourself in equal stats unless the op says it works, as soon as he powers up, it equalizes his stats back to what hit was put at.
So hit fodderizes naruto by blitzing him with timeskip, or using nerve strikes to take out his chakra, or killing him in stepped time, or killing him while in a separate space time dimension...
Hit has every single advantage possible.
1. Hit has better speed with time skip or stop.
2. Hit can block naruto’s chakra, but naruto can’t block hit’s ki( nerve strikes do that in naruto).
3. Hit can make every attack of his completely impossible to dodge, and impossible to block, as well as being a one hit kill.
4. Hit can dodge any attack of naruto’s, and naruto can do nothing about it.
5. Hit can hide in a separate space/time, while still attacking naruto...
6. Hit has a thousand years of experience on naruto
7. Hit can adapt to abilities, fighting styles, or even stat advantages, countering them in seconds, while constantly upgrading his own abilities mid fight.
That's not true. Somewhere in the rule book, instead of making duplicate or similar threads, you can bump a thread and discuss your own scenarios.
In this case, I have presented 2 of my own.
Base Naruto = Hit in stats
EOS Naruto = Hit in stats.
We should discuss all scenarios and rule out or come to a conclusion on them all.
Even if naruto would amp himself 100's of times stronger, hit adapts FAST. As in, he went from below ssb, to stronger than ssbkk TIMES 10 in less than a minute -- each episode is about a minute going with tournament of power 48 minutes. Hit would adapt to naruto and one shot blitz... That's if he doesn't do it in the beginning.
He amps his stats then blitzes
Because that worked so well for Goku LMAOOOOOO.
The gap between base and Kurama Naruto is well above 10X.
He amps his stats then blitzes
Because that worked so well for Goku LMAOOOOOO.
The gap between base and Kurama Naruto is well above 10X.
Unsubstantiated. Prove that current Naruto's base is 10 times slower than Moded Naruto linearly, this entire discussion is irrelevant as the OP likely didn't intend for the buffs to be applied anyways, but I want to see you try and argue that Naruto in his modes moves 10 entire times faster than he does in base.
Unsubstantiated. Prove that current Naruto's base is 10 times slower than Moded Naruto linearly, this entire discussion is irrelevant as the OP likely didn't intend for the buffs to be applied anyways, but I want to see you try and argue that Naruto in his modes moves 10 entire times faster than he does in base.
Naruto has almost no speed feats in base. He's not even close to Hebi Sasuke's level of speed. Even if he's gotten faster since then, upgraded forms would gain a proportionate increase.
@sy8008: can you prove it’s different then normal nerve strikes?
It was done in naruto by hitting chakra points causing them to temporarily stop the flow of chakra, didn’t seem much different then hit using nerve strikes on vegeta, or presumably frost( really looked like it...)
Seems like the only difference is that ki doesn’t run through the body physically in the same way chakra does...
@slimj87d: to a certain extent, yes. But the op literally says equalized stats, by rules of equalized stats, they stay at the same stats...
also since the op never said base, and the default would be fighting to the best of their abilities, that would mean he starts in strongest form unless specified by the op...
Naruto has almost no speed feats in base. He's not even close to Hebi Sasuke's level of speed. Even if he's gotten faster since then, upgraded forms would gain a proportionate increase.
Unsubstantiated. All of it.
In his base form he was matching Sasuke throughout their entire fight and even at the end gained the upper hand and blitzed Sasuke, implying the only reason Naruto is even seen at all by Sasuke is because of Sasuke's sharingan, and we already know Sharingan doesn't increase foot speed unless you're suggesting that Sasuke somehow gets a 10x buff to his speed when his Sharingan is active.
In his base form he was still reacting the same exact way to all of Toneri's moves including the one that crossed the moon in seconds which is a better speed feat than Sasuke has at all period.
I'd be hard pressed to say that the speed difference between his base form and his newest forms are even 3 times. Let alone a linear 10 times like you're implying. "hE's NoT eVeN cLoSe To HeBi SaSuKe"
No where in the entire manga does it ever state that Naruto is moving ten times faster than he normally does.
Also, Hit stomps. And this thread is borderline agaisnt the rules as Naruto has never been this strong before in his entire life.
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