Hinata Sakaguchi(TSSDK) Runs a HST villain gauntlet.

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hinata starts in her light novel/web novel form

she gets basic knowledge on every villain.

magic=reatisu=haki=charka

Round 1: One piece villains- axe guy to kaidou

round 2: bleach- That random hollow to Yhwach

round 3: naruto- that one ninja guy to kaguya

after each fight, she gets healed and is at peak condition.

does she pass?

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Looking at her VS Battles page, she is apparently MFTL, island level with a ton of obscure light novel hax.

She should clear easily based on that.

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#4  Edited By Ymirgod

@shirso said:

Looking at her VS Battles page, she is apparently MFTL, island level with a ton of obscure light novel hax.

She should clear easily based on that.

Nah.. theres this ability "Disintegration" that moves at LS, not MFTL. Her best hax is apparently only like, power sealing+prep death move.

If she uses disintegration on everyone she dies to Nanao's blade. It will be redo of the Lille fight. If Kaido and rest of Yonko scale from Kizaru + future sight then she's not even defeating One Piece.

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@ymirgod said:
@shirso said:

Looking at her VS Battles page, she is apparently MFTL, island level with a ton of obscure light novel hax.

She should clear easily based on that.

Nah.. theres this ability "Disintegration" that moves at LS, not MFTL. Her best hax is apparently only like, power sealing+prep death move.

dont spread misinformation on a verse you know nothing about. the disintegration was able to blitz shion who had thought processing, which accelerates the senses X1000000 times. this being able to blitz that while shion can already casually react to light is MFTL

If she uses disintegration on everyone she dies to Nanao's blade. It will be redo of the Lille fight. If Kaido and rest of Yonko scale from Kizaru + future sight then she's not even defeating One Piece.

firstly, this is the villains, not the heros, so nanaos blade is null(even though it would allready be due to hax), but dead end rainbow would be enough for any one piece character. with Usurper, she'll be able to copy their abilities and more. and future sight is null cause of her Mathematician ability, which allows her to observe and completely analyze everything about her opponents and With the Prediction Simulation ability of it, it can be used to predict the path of her opponents attacks. you could argue with yhwach, which im fine with, but saying someone like kizaru can solo is ludacris.

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#6  Edited By TOPAZZZ

@ymirgod said:
@shirso said:

Looking at her VS Battles page, she is apparently MFTL, island level with a ton of obscure light novel hax.

She should clear easily based on that.

Nah.. theres this ability "Disintegration" that moves at LS,

Which is faster than anything in OP barring maybe Kizaru.

not MFTL. Her best hax is apparently only like, power sealing+prep death move.

So? doesn’t mean she cant use her other hax that don’t require prep.

then she's not even defeating One Piece.

If she uses disintegration on everyone she dies to Nanao's blade.

And this will happen because...?

It will be redo of the Lille fight.

lol

If Kaido and rest of Yonko scale from Kizaru + future sight then she's not even defeating One Piece.

Her fastest attack is FTL, so this “scaling” doesn’t really matter.

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@rikuyamaha said:
@ymirgod said:
@shirso said:

Looking at her VS Battles page, she is apparently MFTL, island level with a ton of obscure light novel hax.

She should clear easily based on that.

Nah.. theres this ability "Disintegration" that moves at LS, not MFTL. Her best hax is apparently only like, power sealing+prep death move.

dont spread misinformation on a verse you know nothing about. the disintegration was able to blitz shion who had thought processing, which accelerates the senses X1000000 times. this being able to blitz that while shion can already casually react to light is MFTL

If she uses disintegration on everyone she dies to Nanao's blade. It will be redo of the Lille fight. If Kaido and rest of Yonko scale from Kizaru + future sight then she's not even defeating One Piece.

firstly, this is the villains, not the heros, so nanaos blade is null(even though it would allready be due to hax), but dead end rainbow would be enough for any one piece character. with Usurper, she'll be able to copy their abilities and more. and future sight is null cause of her Mathematician ability, which allows her to observe and completely analyze everything about her opponents and With the Prediction Simulation ability of it, it can be used to predict the path of her opponents attacks. you could argue with yhwach, which im fine with, but saying someone like kizaru can solo is ludacris.

Stop. If she can't react to LS disintegration with thought process, that simply means that x100000000000 isn't enough to amp her to LS. In thought, that is. It will never, ever, speed her movements.

So she has a worse version of Sharingan.

That's not comparable to future sight. Not in the slightest. Everyone above 1 000 000 000 bounty in One Piece should have Future Sight. Do not compare basic precog (not even that) with that.

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@ymirgod: Stop. If she can't react to LS disintegration with thought process, that simply means that x100000000000 isn't enough to amp her to LS.

what? disintegration is not a light speed move, its above it for blitzing shion. that type of thinking is ridiculous.

In thought, that is. It will never, ever, speed her movements.

yet that what thought acceleration can do. sad

So she has a worse version of Sharingan.

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thanks for your ignorance.

That's not comparable to future sight. Not in the slightest. Everyone above 1 000 000 000 bounty in One Piece should have Future Sight.

a five second future vision that can still be blitzed vs a Literal 1 million cognition and movment speed move. ok.

Do not compare basic precog (not even that) with that.

dont compare literal fodder types of precog to thought acceleration. your being super ignorant, its not even funny.

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Shion isn't LS.

There's a stated speed for disintegration.

We've already gone through this thought acceleration nonsenze. It's about 3 billion times slower than Mayri's drug (1 second into 100 years)

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@ymirgod: No we have not gone through this. Also, you are acting as if everyone in bleach is taking Mayuri drug. You say that a light novel in which statements from The System of the universe and a supercomputer whose job is to analyze all the abilities are false but when Mayuri says that he can compress 100 years into a single second to be true. You blatantly ignore all feats and abilities going so far as to claim that Madara is above rewriting the laws of the universe. If you want to wank HST so much goto VsWiki.

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I've never said Madara is "above rewriting the laws of the universe". And I don't recall any rewriting laws in Slime being brought anywhere.

For example no Slime character seem to actually have the feats or power of someone like Yukio (a villain). Note that most slime abilities are more than limited in comparison to actual hax (the hailed "probability manipulation"). All of these feats I will show next will be from Yukio alone:

Yukio's Fullbring Invaders Must Die can be thought of as a dimensional ability via playing. Think of you activating The Sims 2 and creating a new map, adding new things and new people there, and whatever you want to rule as you see fit. Invaders Must Die is basically that almost exactly.

1. Yukio can control even the humidity, wind, temperature, time and gravity in his dimensions and "save" and "load" people:

2. Yukio can give the characters in his dimension "health bars". These health bars can be equal to the health they actually have or completely different (for example he can make it so that both of the players have 6 health bars each at the start of the game):

3. Invaders Must Die can also add other absolute "rules" inside his dimension. For example he can create a forbidden regions that can't be exited or broken as rules of the game. Furthermore, he can also as a rule block all sound and voice coming from inside the forbidden region:

4. Yukio's dimensions are entirely separate time-spaces from the real one. For example Yukio can via manipulating time even speed up the flow of time:

5. The true ability of Invaders Must Die is shown when Yukio creates maany different dimensions for different characters. All of these places have different areas and times of days and entirely different worlds created for them:

Chad trained in a harsh world under a blazing hot sun, terrible weater and 4.5x gravity:

Byakuya and Tsukishima fought in a dimension with a nighttime and moon:

Ikkaku and Shishigawara fought in a dimension with a night and moon as well:

Riruka and Rukia fought inside a dimension with cute things (even the trees were toy cactuses and stuff):

Ichigo, Uryu and Ginjo fought inside a dimension in a city with a day time:

Kenpachi and Giriko fought in an empty space:

Hitsugaya and Yukio fought inside a dimension with a large laboratory in which Yukio spawned bunch of different monsters to fight:

Renji and Jackie fought in a dimension with a late evening rain:

Let's get to even more broken shit with Invaders Must Die

6. After gaining Ichigo's power, Invaders Must Die can be used outside of the dimensions. Yukio can make it so that anything that has happened to him or anyone else gets completely overwritten:

7. If Yukio so wishes, he can erase his dimension. What this does is erase the world and everything in it - this means Yukio can kill people by erasing them with the world:

8. In the final arc Yukio took control of a Valley of Screams dimension and manipulated it. Valley of Screams are dimensions that aren't Yukio's own. This means that Invaders Must Die can even reach as far as to basically hijack other dimensions. It's ridiculous that he could just control other people's dimensions:

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@ymirgod: I am tired of saying it over again. We had this discussion regarding Shion's hax and you gave me list of Madara's abilities and hax copypasted from VsWiki ranging from Water walking to gravitational manipulation. It was day before yesterday. You were using another username back then.

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damn, i can't believe Yukio is a sixth dimensional being with reality warping

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@ymirgod: I am tired of saying it over again. We had this discussion regarding Shion's hax and you gave me list of Madara's abilities and hax copypasted from VsWiki ranging from Water walking to gravitational manipulation. It was day before yesterday. You were using another username back then.

You do realize no one has ever posted anything about law manipulation. Simple claims do not constitute as feats.

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@ymirgod: Im saving that for the future. Nicely presented.

OT I am dubious to take a side because people seem to be disagreeing with the source material of wherever this Hinata comes from.

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R2 >>> Round 1+3. OT :. Wont get past round 2.

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#17  Edited By TOPAZZZ

She can definitely clear OP as long as she’s fighting everyone 1 on 1. She’s too fast and has hax that no one has an answer for.

She would also get pretty far in bleach due to her spiritual based attacks, but i don’t think she clears. She’s not strong enough to overcome the almighty so yhwach can just disable her rapier like rimuru did. For that reason i say she stops at top/god tiers in bleach.

As for naruto, still stops at high/god tiers only cause of kaguya. nardo and sauce get their souls destroyed

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@brownzeus: no one is disagreeing. its all coming from a thread of comp HST vs comp slime and after numerous posts proving ymirgod wrong, he continues to downplay, even after several sources proving otherwise.

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@brownzeus said:

@ymirgod: Im saving that for the future. Nicely presented.

OT I am dubious to take a side because people seem to be disagreeing with the source material of wherever this Hinata comes from.

Yeah. You win these debates with proof and evidence, not baseless claims.

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#21  Edited By TOPAZZZ

@ymirgod: what do you want proof of exactly?

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>baseless claims

> show feats

Ok?

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@ymirgod: what do you want proof of exactly?

Anything. Time stop (there's no such thing), probability manip being worth anything, just give me..................anything. No one has brought anything actually canonical in these Slime debates so far that would make Slime win against someone they can't hurt with energy.

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@ymirgod said:
@topazzz said:

@ymirgod: what do you want proof of exactly?

Anything. Time stop (there's no such thing), probability manip being worth anything, just give me..................anything. No one has brought anything actually canonical in these Slime debates so far that would make Slime win against someone they can't hurt with energy.

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dont make up stuff mate, i allready shown you feats but you choose to be ignorant and ignore it.

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@rikuyamaha: yes. and I asked feats for what would make them defeat the "comps" that Slime was up against. You still did not bring these feats I asked for.

1. that is NOT time stop. It's almost like you keep deliberately misleading and/or trolling people.

2. As I've already said. That's literally Sharingan. Not Haki future sight and definitely not Almighty level.

3. Fate is the future that is set in stone. Not all of these guys have that limitation. If anything that Cook ability gets countered to oblivion...

4. Infinity Prison that physical bodies can't escape from and spiritual bodies have a chance to escape from. Literally without any abilities that, for example, take control of the dimension and throw it in the garbage bin. Irrelevant ability and nothing points to even basic dimension hopping not working on it... (spatial blocking isn't a new thing btw)

4.5 You forgot the "doubling probability" stuff.

5. It literally says because his fastened perception of the world the world seems to be at halt. Not that time has been stopped.

6. creating worlds. soul circulation. so what.

7. That last feat is just Veldanava creating multiple worlds.

8. That last one like most of these is a claim sadly.

Sigh.

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@rikuyamaha: yes. and I asked feats for what would make them defeat the "comps" that Slime was up against. You still did not bring these feats I asked for.

i already shown you.

1. that is NOT time stop. It's almost like you keep deliberately misleading and/or trolling people.

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"THe world had stop moving, like it was suspended". ok thanks for that

2. As I've already said. That's literally Sharingan. Not Haki future sight and definitely not Almighty level.

love your trolling on it. unless haki future sight or almighty or hell even the sharingan in that matter can increase your cog by X1000000 times, then your trolling from your ignorance.

3. Fate is the future that is set in stone. Not all of these guys have that limitation. If anything that Cook ability gets countered to oblivion...

how? cook literally manipulates fate and casualty

4. Infinity Prison that physical bodies can't escape from and spiritual bodies have a chance to escape from.

physical body is zero percent, spiritual body is 3%

Literally without any abilities that, for example, take control of the dimension and throw it in the garbage bin.

resisted all of veldoras powers, including multiversal probability manipulation.

Irrelevant ability and nothing points to even basic dimension hopping not working on it... (spatial blocking isn't a new thing btw)

veldora has dimensional hopping, but that didnt help. your ignorance knows no bounds on this as you make assumptions upon each power without knowing what is put into it.

4.5 You forgot the "doubling probability" stuff.

thats the sun making stuff.

5. It literally says because his fastened perception of the world the world seems to be at halt. Not that time has been stopped.

not that one, but the one above.

6. creating worlds. soul circulation. so what.

can anyone make thousands of universes causally in the HST? if so, post feats.

7. That last feat is just Veldanava creating multiple worlds.

yeah, as in universes. your point?

8. That last one like most of these is a claim sadly.

LMAO!!!! how is the literal description of whats going on a claim? you literally do not understand what a claim vs a feat is. a claim is- state or assert that something is the case, typically without providing evidence or proof. a feat is- an achievement. you said in your previous that veldora made multiple worlds, but this one proving it more is a claim? yikes your terrible.

Sigh.

i should be sighing. your ignorance and stupidity is out of this world. you have not yet read slime or even begun to understand the verse but yet you are inclined to make outrageous comments on something you know little to nothing about.

now unless you got some more outrageous wank or low ball, please stop commenting on slime vs battles, as you have already proven you have no idea what your talking about.

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-That's not TS.

-Accelerated cognition isn't future sight.

-Cook: "it can be described as a slash that brings the results Shion wishes for." That is the core idea behind it. Izanami was stated to be fate manipulation multiple times as well. Neither of these actually matter in the grand scheme of things when there are something like Minority World, or even beyond that, Food Luck. For example Book of the End and Antithesis are counters to fate manip. arm of stagnation negates future sight even

-It says that they watch over the world and the living beings, not universes, for one.

-Nowhere has it been stated Veldora has dimensional hopping or even that he used it in that situation.

-It says several worlds in that scan, not "thousands of universes." The next scan with the stored energy for "tens of thousands of times over" claim is the only thing you can try to stick to for Slime not to get stomped immediately.

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@ymirgod said:

-That's not TS.

but it was

-Accelerated cognition isn't future sight.

ok? that means something how? your acting as if a five second future sight is impressive to literal X100000 perception.

-Cook: "it can be described as a slash that brings the results Shion wishes for." That is the core idea behind it.It manipulates Fate and Reality. This is without counting

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It manipulates Fate and Reality, along with causality

Izanami was stated to be fate manipulation multiple times as well.

which requires set up, and is not nearly as potent as cook

Neither of these actually matter in the grand scheme of things when there are something like Minority World

minority world changes the probility of something. which is lower then veldoras

, or even beyond that, Food Luck. For example Book of the End and Antithesis are counters to fate manip.

book of the end changes the past, antithesis changes the effects between two characters. how is that higher then a reality warping, cauality warping and fate warping power?

-It says that they watch over the world and the living beings, not universes, for one.

which RIMURU AND VELDORA created. this is literally you taking stuff out of context now.

-Nowhere has it been stated Veldora has dimensional hopping or even that he used it in that situation.

oho, but it has. via his Chaos King Nyarlathotep, and his Investigation King Faust

-It says several worlds in that scan, not "thousands of universes."

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the kajin for world in japanese can allso mean universe. which this is it.

The next scan with the stored energy for "tens of thousands of times over" claim

its a damn feat, not a claim. honestly, are you dense?

is the only thing you can try to stick to for Slime not to get stomped immediately.

the only thing you can stick with is ignoring scans and being ignorant and taking stuff out of context without the original source. the only thread your hanging onto is Minority World, and that is below veldoras power.

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@ymirgod: also, next time tag me if your gonna attempt to make theses outrageous comments. i love schooling you. hell, im even tempted to cav you with Veldora or even Rimuru.

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@topazzz apparently veldora doesn't have space or even dimensional hops XD

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Should clear

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@rikuyamaha:

-Not TS, not future sight

-That "fate manipulation" is slashing things to make a desired effect. When it cut a person it made it so that the person's state of being was being limbless. It couldn't be healed.

Yhwach has a superior fate manipulation to this. When he destroyed Tensa Zangetsu it couldn't be brought back with an ability that negates events. Book of the End was used to create an entirely new past.

Antithesis is also event manip. Just imagine using cook on someone who has Antithesis.:

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- Veldora doesn't have feats on par with Minority World or Food Luck with his "probability manipulation".

-Investigation King Faust has no spatial abilities and Veldora gains it after escaping Infinity Prison. Chaos King is an upgraded version of Investigation King. Veldora thus had zero abilities to dimension hop during that scene.

-Feat. Or so you claim.

-Veldora's probability manipulation can't make him do this against Cook, or anything close to it in general, for example (Redirection via Food Luck and Minority World):

Gourmet Gods survived the multiversal Gourmet Big Bang btw:

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@ymirgod said:

@rikuyamaha:

-Not TS, not future sight

allready disproved you on it while you didn't counter it once. gg

-That "fate manipulation" is slashing things to make a desired effect.

wrong, i already shown you otherwise.

When it cut a person it made it so that the person's state of being was being limbless. It couldn't be healed

that's one of the uses of it, but if you read it, it "rewrites a outcome"

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Yhwach has a superior fate manipulation to this.

yhwach does not have fate manp, he has future manp.

When he destroyed Tensa Zangetsu it couldn't be brought back with an ability that negates events. Book of the End was used to create an entirely new past.

ok? book of the end manipulates the past

Antithesis is also event manip. Just imagine using cook on someone who has Antithesis.:

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shions cook has been shown to work on more powerful people then uyru with a lot higher hax then him as well

Veldora doesn't have feats on par with Minority World or Food Luck with his "probability manipulation".

allready disproved you on that.

-Investigation King Faust has no spatial abilities

damn, gotta hate when you ignore literal spatial manipulation on it.

and Veldora gains it after escaping Infinity Prison.

yeah, why does that matter?

Chaos King is an upgraded version of Investigation King. Veldora thus had zero abilities to dimension hop during that scene.

allready disproved you on that.

-Feat. Or so you claim.

you say this after i posted feats. damn, i love your ignorance and blatant stupidity

-Veldora's probability manipulation can't make him do this against Cook

why do you even think that? shion and veldora haven't fought, so of course we don't know which ability would be superior.

, or anything close to it in general, for example (Redirection via Food Luck and Minority World):

your assumptions are amazing, but i allready posted feats about veldora and im not gonna post more until you actually acknowledge them besides saying "LoL So WeAk"

Gourmet Gods survived the multiversal Gourmet Big Bang btw:

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unless you truely believe the gourmet gods are multiversal, they still far short to rimuru

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Ymirgod still grasping at straws and failing to effectively counter points i see. I’d have thought he‘d stopped lowballing Tensei slime after all those other threads but i guess i was wrong

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@topazzz said:

Ymirgod still grasping at straws and failing to effectively counter points i see. I’d have thought he‘d stopped lowballing Tensei slime after all those other threads but i guess i was wrong

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#37  Edited By Ymirgod

@rikuyamaha: Nothing you posted debunked or challenged a single thing I said.

Concession accepted.

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#38  Edited By RikuYamaha

@ymirgod said:

@rikuyamaha: Nothing you posted debunked or challenged a single thing I said.

Concession accepted.

when have i conceded? and ask anyone here and they'll tell you who debunked who mate.

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Still you have nothing new I see.

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@ymirgod: mate, you came into where with no knowledge on the verse and you expect to be right?

its like saying " i heard of a elephant but i never seen it in real life. so facts about the elephant is null unless i see him". even after being presented with several evidence debunking your claims, you whine and say "Hehe, didnt debunk me". its childish and shows your ignorance.

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@rikuyamaha: Are you joking? From this thread and the past one anyone can clearly tell that you have no idea about the abilities of these shounen verses.

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@ymirgod said:

@rikuyamaha: Are you joking? From this thread and the past one anyone can clearly tell that you have no idea about the abilities of these shounen verses.

i literally debate naruto, bleach and one piece so much its unhealthy. i know everyone's abilities in the HST, but i neither wank or low ball them. you on the other hand, wank so much and shit on other verses you know nothing about.

ask anyone here, they know i been debating HST more then the slime verse

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#49  Edited By Ymirgod

@rikuyamaha:

I literally haven't wanked anything. Just look at you wanking that cook ability or the so-called "probability manipulation" like it's anything special. All I do is bring the facts loud and clear and you can't seem to handle it.

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@ymirgod said:

@rikuyamaha:

I literally haven't wanked anything. Just look at you wanking that cook ability or the so-called "probability manipulation" like it's anything special.

you wanked yhwachs future manipulation, saying its better then a multiversal probability manipulation move and wanked future haki, saying its better then X100000 cog. i didn't wank anything besides giving you actual dead set facts upon said verse, but you choose to cry over the fact that one said of ability is stronger and more potent then the HST powerset, that you throw out outliers, false informations and head cannon upon the other verse to prove a point.