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This is a new idea I'm trying out which is based of the Gang Wars. The basic idea here is that you have a set of classes. Each class has it's own set of limitations and a worth. You have a certain amount of points to spend and you can only get one character per class. This is attempt to do something that could be a bit more balanced than my usual pyp

Rules

  1. 8 participants total.
  2. Participants must have 500 post or must have completed atleast 1 CAV or Tourney Match
  3. 10 points for characters
  4. Only 1 character per type. So you can only get one brick, one energy manipulator etc.
  5. 15 points for perks
  6. Win by Death, Incap or KO.
  7. Standard Gear.
  8. No BFR.
  9. No reality warping
  10. No Speed Steal
  11. No Power Copying/stealing.
  12. Standard Summons, constructs or any other fodder can be no stronger than 616 Bleeding Edge Iron Man. They cannot be amped either.
  13. Summons, constructs or other fodder are limited to 200
  14. Cloning is limited to 10
  15. Time Jumping, remnants, speeding up ones own time is allowed. Other forms of time manip is banned.

Character 10 Points

So here I have provided several different limitations for different kinds of characters that are usually used in these tourneys. You build your team picking various characters that fit one of the limits. I may ask you to provide feats for characters to see whether they fit said limits. As already stated only one character from a class.

Important notes:

  • Physicals refers to both Striking strength and durability. Lifting is not limited.
  • Speed refers to combat and reaction speed. Travel Speed is not limited.
  • Hax would be an ability that bypasses durability. Common Hax would be TP, Intangibility, transmutation etc.
  • Versatility would just be power that don't ignore durability.
  • Moon is our moon sized, planet would be Earth Sized, Large Planet is Jupiter Sized, Star is Sun size.

Brawlers

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Characters who are mostly reliant on physicals attack with minimum versatility. Someone like Hulk or Superman

1 Pointers

  • Physicals: Moon busting
  • Speed: Light Speed
  • Versatility: Around 2-3 abilities max
  • Hax: max 1

3 Pointers

  • Physicals: Planet busting
  • Speed: FTL or Nanosecond timing
  • Versatility Around 2-3 abilities max
  • Hax: max 1

6 Pointers

  • Physicals: Large Planet Busting
  • Speed: MFTL or Picosecond timing
  • Versatility: Around 2-3 abilities max
  • Hax: max 1

Gear Users

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Characters that rely a lot on the use of their gear. Characters like Wonder Woman or Worthy Thor

2 Pointers

  • Physicals: Moon busting
  • Speed: Light Speed
  • Gear: 4 to 5 pieces.

4 Pointers

  • Physicals: Planet busting
  • Speed: FTL or Nanosecond timing
  • Gear: 4 to 5 pieces.

7 Pointers

  • Physicals: Large Planet Busting
  • Speed: MFTL or Picosecond timing
  • Gear: 4 to 5 pieces.

Gear is allowed to do anything that is within limits and doesn't amp their stats above the stated level.

Energy Manipulators

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Characters who are primarily energy users. It can be energy attacks or stuff like energy draining. Such as Hal Jordan or Quasar

2 Pointers

  • Physicals: Moon busting
  • Speed: Light Speed
  • Energy Manipulation: Moon to Planet
  • Hax/Versatility: Draining, intangibility, and other energy based hax.

4 Pointers

  • Physicals: Planet busting
  • Speed: FTL or Nanosecond timing
  • Energy Manipulation: Planet to Large planet
  • Hax/Versatility: Draining, intangibility, and other energy based hax.

7 Pointers

  • Physicals: Large Planet Busting
  • Speed: MFTL or Picosecond timing
  • Energy Manipulation: Large Planet to star level.
  • Hax/Versatility: Draining, Intangibility, and other energy based hax.

Psychics

Characters who primarily use telepathy and/or telekinesis. Someone like Jean Grey.

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2 Pointers

  • Speed: Light speed
  • TP or TK: Planet Level
  • Common Hax

4 Pointers

  • Speed: FTL or Nanosecond timing
  • TP or TK: Multi Planet Level
  • Common Hax

6 Pointers

  • Speed: MFTL or Picosecond Timing
  • TP or TK: Large Planet Level
  • Common Hax

9 Pointers

  • Speed: MFTL or Picosecond Timing
  • TP or TK: Star Level
  • Common Hax

Versatile Fighters

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Character with a vast array of abilities, that aren't necessarily hax but allows the characters do a lot more. Thinking of characters like Hank Henshaw

2 Pointers

  • Physicals: Moon busting
  • Speed: Light Speed
  • DC: Moon
  • Versatility: Any number of abilities
  • Common Hax: Max 2

4 Pointers

  • Physicals: Planet busting
  • Speed: FTL or Nanosecond timing
  • DC: Planet Busting
  • Versatility: Any number of abilities
  • Common Hax: Max 2

7 Pointers

  • Physicals: Large Planet Busting
  • Speed: MFTL or Picosecond timing
  • DC: Large Planet
  • Versatility: Any number of abilities
  • Common Hax: Max 2

Hax Lords

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Characters will a lot of abilities several of which can simply one shot an opponent regardless of durability. They encompass several of the other builds into one. Like Silver Surfer.

1 Pointers

  • Physicals: Continent busting
  • Speed: Upward Stroke Lightning
  • DC: Continent Busting
  • Hax: Anything within the rules

3 Pointers

  • Physicals: Moon busting
  • Speed: Light speed
  • DC: Moon Busting
  • Hax: Anything within the rules

5 Pointers

  • Physicals: Planet busting
  • Speed: FTL or Nanosecond timing
  • DC: Planet Busting
  • Hax: Anything within the rules

8 Pointers

  • Physicals: Large Planet busting
  • Speed: MFTL or Picosecond timing
  • DC: Large planet Busting
  • Hax: Anything within the rules

Preppers

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Characters who are usually not that strong but are able to amp themselves further prep. If you pick a prepper you get a free 30 mins of prep anywhere before the battle. As such your characters will be valued based on their prep feats. Characters like Batman or Reed Richards work here.

1 Pointers

Cannot amp themselves higher than

  • Speed: Upward Stroke Lightning
  • DC: Continent Busting
  • Constructs and summons max at island level and downward stroke lightning speed and are limited to 5
  • Can not amp teammates above bricks

3 Points

Cannot amp themselves higher than

  • Speed: Light Speed
  • DC: Moon Busting
  • Constructs and summons max at country level and Updward Stroke Lightning and are limited to 5
  • Can not amp teammates above 1 Point bricks

5 Points

Cannot amp themselves higher than

  • Speed: FTL or Nanosecond timing
  • DC: Planet Busting
  • Not allowed to physically fight
  • Constructs and summons max at 1 Point bricks and are limited to 5
  • Can not amp teammates above 3 Point bricks

8 Points

Cannot amp themselves higher than

  • Speed: MFTL or Picosecond timing
  • DC: Large planet Busting
  • Constructs and summons max at 3 Point bricks and are limited to 5
  • Can not amp teammates above 6 Point bricks

Squadbusters 10 Points

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A character capable of taking out an entire squad

  • Physicals: Star Busting
  • Speed: MFTL++ or Femptosecond timing
  • DC: Star Busting
  • Hax/Versatlity: Within reason

Now not all characters will perfectly fit these limitations. If your characters meets all the requirements of a certain level except for being lower or higher in 1 aspect I will simply price them inbetween. E.g Someone with planet level durability and FTL speed but only moon busting striking would be 2.

Also some characters may with more than one archetype, you can decide which you would like to said character to be in, and I will decide whether that is valid or not.

Perk 15 points

Perks are mostly the same as previous tourneys

Prep Rules

  • All prep takes place on the battle field unless otherwise specified
  • You can't amplify yourself over Star Busting.
  • Time Manip is not allowed during Prep. Even if the abilities allowed in the match they aren't for prep
  • Time is relative to you. So going into Places where time is slowed down(E.g the ROSAT) doesn't increase your prep time.
  • For Prep anywhere, you have ti pick a single location. You can move between that location and the battlefield. But no where else.

Prep

  • 1 hour of prep 1
  • 1 hour of prep anywhere 5
  • 1 day of prep 10
  • 5 hours of prep anywhere 15
  • 1 week of prep 15

Team Perks

  • Mind Link 2
  • Basic Knowledge(Wikipedia page) 5
  • No Friendly Fire 5
  • Perfect team work 5
  • Molecular Manip immunity 6
  • Mind/Soul Immunity 7
  • Morals Off 8
  • Full Knowledge(Complete knowledge on all feats) 8

Character perks(for one character only)

  • Spider sense 1
  • light saber 1
  • Flight 1
  • Batman Martial art 1
  • Sherlock Holmes brain 2
  • Adamantium weapons 2
  • Invisibility 2
  • Night Crawler's Teleportation 3
  • 4 Senzu Bean 4
  • Wolverine' Healing 5
  • Reed Richard's Brain Power 5
  • Deadpool's healing 7
  • Lightspeed (travel, combat and reaction speed) 7
  • 1 injustice pill 8
  • Creation Blade 10
  • 1 motherbox 10
  • 1 fatherbox 10
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Participants

1.@higherpower

Characters

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  • Energy Manipulator: Doctor Solar - 6
  • Prepper: Hyperstorm - 2
  • Hax Lord: Yhwach - 1
  • Psychic: Divinity - 1

Perks

  • Mind/Soul Immunity - 7
  • Perfect Teamwork - 5
  • 1 hour prep - 1
  • Mind link - 2

2.@maalik

Characters

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  • Hax Lord: Silver Surfer
  • Energy Manipulator: Pre-52 Kyle Rayner
  • Versatile Fighter: Madara Uchiha

Perks:

  • Morals off (8)
  • Mind/Soul Immunity (7)

3.@kevd4wg

Characters

  • Versatile Fighter: Fire-Lord(3)
  • Prepper: Ultimate Nick Fury(1)
  • Brawler: WBH(4)
  • Hax Lord: Loki(2)

Perks

  • Basic Knowledge(5)
  • Perfect Teamwork(5)
  • 1 Hour of Prep(1)
  • Sherlock Holmes Brain(2) - Loki
  • Adamantium Weapons(2) - Loki

4. @maestromage

Characters

  • Midora (Squadbuster - 10)

Perks

  • Mind/Soul Immunity (7)
  • Molecular Manipulation immunity (6)
  • Flight (1)
  • Spider-Sense (1)

5.@xlr87t3

  • Brawler: Superman 4
  • Energy Manipulator: Hal Jordan 6

Perks

  • Morals Off 8
  • Basic Knowledge(Wikipedia page) 5
  • 1 hour of prep 1
  • 1 hour of prep 1

6.@beatboks1

  • Versatile -Ultra (4)
  • Psyionic -Brainwave snr 4
  • Hax - Psycho Pirate (1)
  • Prepper - Per Degaton (Prime version) (1)

Perks

  • Mother Box (10)
  • 5 x 1hr prep (5)

7.@precrisisbardock

Characters

  • Energy: DMS Kakashi (1)
  • Psychic: Shaman Nate Grey (5)
  • Brawler: SSJ2 Trunks (Anime/Manga) (4)

Perks:

  • Adamantium weapons for Trunks (2)
  • Invisibility Kakashi and Trunks (4)
  • Morals Off (8)
  • 1 hr prep (1)

8.@defiant_will

Characters

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  • Composite Nono (Pre Singularity) (Gear Users: 3)
  • Composite Chase Young (Versatile Fighters: 6)

Perks:

  • Perfect Teamwork (5)
  • 1 Hour of Prep (1)
  • Invisibility (2) (Chase Young)
  • Mind Soul Immunity (7)

9. @majinblackheart

Characters

  • Majin Buu (6)
  • Annihilus (4)

Perks

  • One hour prep anywhere (5)
  • Basic Knowledge (5)
  • Reed Richards Brain Power (5) - Annihilus

10.@apex_pretador

Characters

  • Brawler: Golden Frieza 9
  • Psychic: Fox Jean Grey 1

Perks

  • 1 hour prep (1)
  • Invisibility (2)
  • Adamantium Weapons (2)
  • Nightcrawler's teleportation (3)
  • Deadpool healing (7)

11.@mass

Characters

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  • Hax - Hirose Yuichi (Alive Final Evolution) -2
  • Versatile - Ohkwang (God of High School) - 8

Perks:

  • Lightspeed (travel, combat and reaction speed) 7 for Hirose
  • Mind/Soul Immunity 7
  • Spider sense 1 for Ohkwang

12.@ashrym

  • Squadbuster: Darkseid 9
  • Psychic: Waterhand Aquaman 1

perks

  • 1 week of prep

13.@menos_kegare

Characters

  • 17(DBS)(9)
  • Aizen(Bleach)(1)

Perks

  • Mind/Soul Immunity (7)
  • Molecular manip. immunity 6
  • 2 senzu beans

14.@gilgameshthepimptoendallpimps

Characters

  • Kirby (10 - Squad buster)

Perks:

  1. Spider sense (1)
  2. 1 hour of prep (1)
  3. Molecular Manip immunity (6)
  4. Mind/Soul Immunity (7)

15. @shirso

Characters

  • Squadbuster: Doctor Strange 10

Perks

  • Mind/soul immunity (7),
  • Basic knowledge (5),
  • 1 hr prep (1),
  • Admantium weapons (2)

Perks

16. @major_hellstrom

  • Versatile Fighter: Wundarr (1)
  • Prepper: Prometheus (1)
  • Gear User: Fantomex (1)
  • Hax Lord: Black Vortex Thane (3)
  • Energy Manipulator: Qabiri (4)

Perks:

  • Molecular Manip immunity 6
  • Basic Knowledge (Wikipedia page) 5
  • Invisibility 2
  • 1 hour of prep 1
  • Spider-Sense 1

Reserves

@emperorthanos-

  • Psychics: H'el 4
  • Energy Manipulator: Sinestro 3
  • Versatile Fighter: Sasuke 2
  • Hax lord: Iceman 1
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Perks

  • Perfect team work 5
  • Mind/Soul Immunity 7
  • 1 hour of prep 1
  • Adamantium Weapons: 2 (Sasuke)

@chronicplane

Characters:

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  • Brawler: SSB Goku (9)
  • Prepper: MCU Thanos (1)

Perks:

  • Morals Off (8)
  • Adamantium Weapons (2)
  • Wolverine' Healing (5)

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#4 Edited by HigherPower (12392 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: Ok my squad

  • Versatile Fighter: Mu Siyun (Iron Ladies) - 5 points
  • Energy Manipulator: Doctor Solar (Composite) 5 points

My perks will be

  • Basic knowledge - 5
  • Mind/Soul immunity - 7
  • Invisibility (Mu) - 2

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Reserve me a spot please.

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Reserve me

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Reserve

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#9 Posted by Maalik (861 posts) - - Show Bio

In with silver surfer for now,, need to think of the rest.

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#10 Posted by Mass (1300 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower: I didn’t think anyone else read Iron Ladies ;)

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@mass said:

@higherpower: I didn’t think anyone else read Iron Ladies ;)

haha you already know I'm well versed in the manhua/manwha scene :D

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Alright, I'm taking no one valued high

  • Gear User: Ultimate Iron Man(1)
  • Energy Manipulator: Vulcan(3) - Energy Manipulation would probably be over, but physicals are garbage
  • Hax Lord: Ronan(1)
  • Brawler: WBH(3) - For a brawler literally all he has are physicals, no speed, no versatility, no hax. Could go for a 4 too since he's above planet busting physicals
  • Prepper: Ultimate Nick Fury(1)
  • Versatile Fighters: Mimic(1)
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#14 Edited by emperorthanos- (16568 posts) - - Show Bio

@kevd4wg: I'd say 4 for WBH. He is above the limits physically while versatility and hax wise he does have great regen and gamma bursts.

Everything else is fine

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#15 Posted by ManaMan (490 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually someone else can fill my spot

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#16 Posted by beatboks1 (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok my team

Secret society of Super Villains

If I have the points right

Versatile fighter - Ultra Humanite (2)

Psionic - Brainwave Snr (2)

Hax- Psycho pirate (1)

Prepper - Per Degaton (1)

Gear user - the Wizard (2)

Brawler- Solomon Grundy (2) golden age level not JLA smasher

May want to review my points. Based on stated correct but that is a damn powerful team for 10 points

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#17 Posted by XLR87T3 (10036 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-:

Energy Manipulator - Hal Jordan (7)

Prepper - Lex Luthor (3)

Brawler- Superman (2)

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#18 Posted by beatboks1 (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-:

Questions re Per Degaton

Is his phasing allowed? which is based on his time abilities sort of jumping from instant to instant.

Does the time remnant thing allow for time summonsed gear? He's done that more than time remnants and not "super gear" just standard real world gear. For example used a Nuclear sub and nuclear weapons from the cuban crisis in 1942.

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#19 Posted by emperorthanos- (16568 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok my team

Secret society of Super Villains

If I have the points right

Versatile fighter - Ultra Humanite (2)

Psionic - Brainwave Snr (2)

Hax- Psycho pirate (1)

Prepper - Per Degaton (1)

Gear user - the Wizard (2)

Brawler- Solomon Grundy (2) golden age level not JLA smasher

May want to review my points. Based on stated correct but that is a damn powerful team for 10 points

Ultra Humanite has like MMH level TP right? That alone would make him a 4 pointer.

The others should be fine. Though I need to a respect thread or something for Degaton

Time Remnant is just for time clones

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#20 Posted by emperorthanos- (16568 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: what versions of Superman and Hal?

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#21 Posted by beatboks1 (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-:

Technically what Ultra has isn't TP but mapping of neural pathways (at least acording to what he told PG in her solo) but yeah I'd placehim at MMH level.

Brainwave is Ultra's complete equal. In Infinty Inc they were completely stalemated in TP battle until Ultra's attack put Bw Jnr in danger diverting Snr's attention to protect his son. Hes also stated several times they were equals

scratch Wizard from my team. Thinking on it the only issues I have with him are all pre Crisis and unlike the other characters it will probably take till round 3 for me to find them to back him up with evidence anyway

Also scratch Grundy. Ultra is a brick on classic grundy level anyway so he doesnt add anything

I'll look for a respect thread for Degaton. Basically a normal human who discovered Time travel in the 40s and used it to fight JSA and All Star Squadron. Until his last appearances in JSA he didnt have any power without his gear. But in those issues could time travel under his own power and phase because of it. He could also speed or slow his or his opponents time in those issues.

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#22 Posted by beatboks1 (10052 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-:

Haha well just done a search and the only thing I find in a google of respect thread for degaton is me saying I'll make one. I did every other respect thread I mentioned in that comment

http://thecomicsledger.proboards.com/thread/44?page=19

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#23 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

Reserve

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#25 Edited by XLR87T3 (10036 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos- said:

@xlr87t3: what versions of Superman and Hal?

Which one is allowed? There's Silver Age and there's Rebirth/Reborn. Post Crisis and New 52 were just the same Superman & Hal with different memories

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#27 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17893 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Hax Lord: Wundarr (1)
  • Versatile Fighter: Black Vortex Thane (4)

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@beatboks1:

I'd say Ultra Humanite is a 4 pointer

Degaton seems fine as 1. And the rest are good.

@emperorthanos-: Where would you place Black Vortex Thane?

What are his feats like?

@xlr87t3 said:
@emperorthanos- said:

@xlr87t3: what versions of Superman and Hal?

Which one is allowed? There's Silver Age and there's Rebirth/Reborn. Post Crisis and New 52 were just the same Superman & Hal with different memories

Silver Age is not allowed. You can their rebirth versions with all Post Crisis(Pre 52, New 52, Rebirth) unamped, so no parrallax Hal and stuff. That Superman would be a 3 and Hal would probably be a 4.

Though our views on the characters differ. So I wish to know what level you plan on arguing Rebirth Superman and Hal so I can value them accordingly.

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#30 Posted by emperorthanos- (16568 posts) - - Show Bio

@kevd4wg: Who will you cutting out since WBH is a 4? Also you can get Immortal Hulk feats with WBH if you would like. Use the version of Hulk that TDB did in the all stars

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#31 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

@major_hellstrom said:
  • Hax Lord: Wundarr (1)
  • Versatile Fighter: Black Vortex Thane (4)

Not familiar with either. Need a respect thread or pm some feats

I sent you an RT on Thane already, I'll PM you again

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#32 Posted by emperorthanos- (16568 posts) - - Show Bio

  • Hax Lord: Wundarr (1)
  • Versatile Fighter: Black Vortex Thane (4)

Not familiar with either. Need a respect thread or pm some feats

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#33 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: His best feat is probably freezing an entire planet with the amp

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#34 Edited by emperorthanos- (16568 posts) - - Show Bio

@major_hellstrom: what are his other stats like? Also does he any other hax/abilities?

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#35 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: Technically he has death hax but he never uses it and it only killed fodder.

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#36 Posted by APEX_pretador (20894 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: Reserve me golden Freeza if he's allowed.

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#37 Posted by emperorthanos- (16568 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: Reserve me golden Freeza if he's allowed.

Eh I guess it depends on you view of him. What level would you say his stats are?

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#38 Edited by XLR87T3 (10036 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-:

@emperorthanos- said:

@beatboks1:

I'd say Ultra Humanite is a 4 pointer

Degaton seems fine as 1. And the rest are good.

@major_hellstrom said :

@emperorthanos-: Where would you place Black Vortex Thane?

What are his feats like?

@xlr87t3 said:
@emperorthanos- said:

@xlr87t3: what versions of Superman and Hal?

Which one is allowed? There's Silver Age and there's Rebirth/Reborn. Post Crisis and New 52 were just the same Superman & Hal with different memories

Silver Age is not allowed. You can their rebirth versions with all Post Crisis(Pre 52, New 52, Rebirth) unamped, so no parrallax Hal and stuff. That Superman would be a 3 and Hal would probably be a 4.

Though our views on the characters differ. So I wish to know what level you plan on arguing Rebirth Superman and Hal so I can value them accordingly.

I view that Superman as the peak of herald tier (however I don't think he can physically one-shot Earth), and Rebirth Hal Jordan in my opinion is definitely star level or at least far above planet busting tier depending on how big Mogo is

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#39 Posted by emperorthanos- (16568 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: I need stats.

Like where do you place their respective speed, durability and DC mainly.

7 point energy manipulators are allowed star level energy manipulation in form of draining and absorption. Outright busting would probably put him higher.

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#40 Posted by APEX_pretador (20894 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: He got one durability feat above star level (against toppo which wrecked him), but he doesn't have any striking feats above star level that I can use. His energy projection has only planet busting feats (although should be higher).

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#41 Posted by XLR87T3 (10036 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: Ok, Clark is definitely MFTL in all aspects, durability is planet+ level, and DC is planet level (his heat vision has destroyed areas as big as earth, and physically his lifting strength is more than strong enough to crush earth, but he can't punch it and oneshot the planet).

Hal Jordan has several feats of star level energy emission, but IIRC not direct destruction of a star. Speed and durability is the same as Superman or a little less, reaction time in particular is just FTL but traveling is MFTL.

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#42 Posted by Kevd4wg (12798 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-

  • Energy Manipulator: Vulcan(3)
  • Hax Lord: Ronan(1)
  • Brawler: WBH(4)
  • Prepper: Ultimate Nick Fury(1)
  • Versatile Fighters: Trauma(1)

Perks

  • Full Knowledge(8)
  • Perfect Teamwork(5)
  • Mind Link(2)
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#43 Posted by WollfMyth209 (16797 posts) - - Show Bio

Loving these teams. Link me to all the debates, tbh.

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#45 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

Hax Lord: Wundarr (1)

Versatile Fighter: Black Vortex Thane (3)

Brawler: Savitar (5)

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#47 Edited by Mass (1300 posts) - - Show Bio
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#48 Edited by CaptainCoolade (826 posts) - - Show Bio

Loving these teams. Link me to all the debates, tbh.

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#49 Posted by Maalik (861 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Hax Lord: Silver Surfer (5)
  • Versatile Fighter: Kyle Rayner (pre 52) (4)
  • Brawler: New 52 Superman (I'm assuming XLR8 is taking pre-52?) (1)
  • Pyschic: New 52 Martian manhunter (If i can't have superman) (1)

New 52 superman is not even moon level in terms of striking strength/dc and well below lightspeed in combat for the most part. New 52 MMH is way less powerful than his pre-52 counterpart as-well, below lightspeed in combat and below planet level in tp/tk.

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Morals Off (8)

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#50 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (17893 posts) - - Show Bio

@maalik: Pretty sure MMH is planetary tho,