High Tier Marvel Cosmic Team vs. Justice League

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#1 Edited by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio
X-Man, Doctor Strange, Sentry, Adam Warlock, Thanos
X-Man, Doctor Strange, Sentry, Adam Warlock, Thanos

Superman, Doctor Fate, Captain Atom, Martian Manhnter, Green Lantern
Superman, Doctor Fate, Captain Atom, Martian Manhnter, Green Lantern

Rules and Information

  • Morals off. Willing to kill.
  • No preparation time. Random encounter.
  • Takes place on a deserted, neutral Earth.
  • Win by any means possible.

Character Specifications and Versions

Marvel Characters:

  • Nate Grey (Shaman)
  • Doctor Strange (Black Priest)
  • Sentry (Stable)
  • Adam Warlock (Soul Gem)
  • Thanos

DC Characters (Pre-52):

  • Superman Prime
  • Doctor Fate (Nabu)
  • Monarch
  • Fernus
  • Alan Scott (Starheart)

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#2 Posted by hatemalingsia (15494 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

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#4 Posted by NighThunder (7725 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll give it to team marvel

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#5 Posted by buttersdaman000 (23231 posts) - - Show Bio

The Annihilators would beat the regular Justice League in a great battle. You put them up against a team with at least 3 members who could, or already have soloed the entire league. Team 2 stomps.

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#6 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

The Annihilators would beat the regular Justice League in a great battle. You put them up against a team with at least 3 members who could, or already have soloed the entire league. Team 2 stomps.

Annihilators have some crazy amps though in the OP, does that make a difference?

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#7 Posted by buttersdaman000 (23231 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

The Annihilators would beat the regular Justice League in a great battle. You put them up against a team with at least 3 members who could, or already have soloed the entire league. Team 2 stomps.

Annihilators have some crazy amps though in the OP, does that make a difference?

I can't see them. I clicked the spoiler, but all I got was a blank space so I assumed it was a typo or something.

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#8 Edited by termiteone4ever (13142 posts) - - Show Bio

I clicked the spoilers

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#9 Edited by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

The Annihilators would beat the regular Justice League in a great battle. You put them up against a team with at least 3 members who could, or already have soloed the entire league. Team 2 stomps.

Annihilators have some crazy amps though in the OP, does that make a difference?

I can't see them. I clicked the spoiler, but all I got was a blank space so I assumed it was a typo or something.

Really? In case anyone else can't see:

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#10 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Posted by buttersdaman000 (23231 posts) - - Show Bio
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#12 Edited by Kingant27 (16934 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Marvel wins in a very close fight here just, however it has the potential to go either way IMO.

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#13 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh:

Ah, well then, I have no clue lol

If it gives you a sense of direction, some feats (with the amps) I recall was Silver Surfer being able to control time (including halting time altogether). Quasar was above Skyfather's like Odin and Zeus, he fought an Elder God for all of eternity. The rest is sort of blurry, but they've all had the amps in the comics before.

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#15 Posted by deactivated-5c1d15b8899b0 (11360 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Posted by dondave (41760 posts) - - Show Bio

JL Stomps

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#17 Posted by transcendence (3824 posts) - - Show Bio

Team DC.

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#18 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Posted by HellionVulcan (7438 posts) - - Show Bio

If the uni power is giving three people the same objective to complete aka beating team dc ,i just can't see the uni force being defeated also what is the level of Odin force ? as i don't think i've ever seen what its capable of.

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#20 Posted by ssj_god (16749 posts) - - Show Bio

dr. fate is getting controlled by nabu? the same nabu who fought spectre? o.O

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#21 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

dr. fate is getting controlled by nabu? the same nabu who fought spectre? o.O

That was Day of Vengeance Nabu IIRC.

Shazam also fought on par with Spectre in Day of Vengeance.

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#22 Posted by ssj_god (16749 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

dr. fate is getting controlled by nabu? the same nabu who fought spectre? o.O

That was Day of Vengeance Nabu IIRC.

Shazam also fought on par with Spectre in Day of Vengeance.

does not matter.. weaker than nabu... kent nelson also fought with spectre..... fate and spectre together held the chaos of an universe..... i think he could be too much here.

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@ssj_god said:

@mysticmedivh said:

@ssj_god said:

dr. fate is getting controlled by nabu? the same nabu who fought spectre? o.O

That was Day of Vengeance Nabu IIRC.

Shazam also fought on par with Spectre in Day of Vengeance.

does not matter.. weaker than nabu... kent nelson also fought with spectre..... fate and spectre together held the chaos of an universe..... i think he could be too much here.

That was Silver Age Fate.

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#24 Posted by ssj_god (16749 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

@mysticmedivh said:

@ssj_god said:

dr. fate is getting controlled by nabu? the same nabu who fought spectre? o.O

That was Day of Vengeance Nabu IIRC.

Shazam also fought on par with Spectre in Day of Vengeance.

does not matter.. weaker than nabu... kent nelson also fought with spectre..... fate and spectre together held the chaos of an universe..... i think he could be too much here.

That was Silver Age Fate.

that was still weaker than nabu himself

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#25 Edited by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

@mysticmedivh said:

@ssj_god said:

@mysticmedivh said:

@ssj_god said:

dr. fate is getting controlled by nabu? the same nabu who fought spectre? o.O

That was Day of Vengeance Nabu IIRC.

Shazam also fought on par with Spectre in Day of Vengeance.

does not matter.. weaker than nabu... kent nelson also fought with spectre..... fate and spectre together held the chaos of an universe..... i think he could be too much here.

That was Silver Age Fate.

that was still weaker than nabu himself

???

Anyways, we're using Pre-52 feats.

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#26 Posted by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

did ronan get subbed out by quasar?

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#27 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@sodamyat said:

did ronan get subbed out by quasar?

Ronan is the weakest out of all these guys, and he hasn't had any good amps like the others, so I didn't include him.

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#31 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

@mysticmedivh:

i don't think that's silver age fate though.

Meh.

Also, Doctor Fate controlled by Nabu didn't fight Spectre in DoV. It was Nabu.

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#32 Posted by TheNaughtyTitan (10001 posts) - - Show Bio

I know, Silver Age Fate. He isn't in this battle though.

Does that image look strangely sexual to anyone else, no, just me? Ok........

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#33 Posted by ssj_god (16749 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

@mysticmedivh:

i don't think that's silver age fate though.

Meh.

Also, Doctor Fate controlled by Nabu didn't fight Spectre in DoV. It was Nabu.

yeah.. that's the guy u're saying would have the controller in his hand

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#35 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:
@mysticmedivh said:
@ssj_god said:

@mysticmedivh:

i don't think that's silver age fate though.

Meh.

Also, Doctor Fate controlled by Nabu didn't fight Spectre in DoV. It was Nabu.

yeah.. that's the guy u're saying would have the controller in his hand

No.

Doctor Fate can be controlled by Nabu. But when he is controlled by Nabu it's still Doctor Fate.

Nabu is an entity of its own. The actual entity Nabu fought Spectre, not Doctor Fate controlled by Nabu.

Doctor Fate wasn't even in the battle.

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#36 Posted by ssj_god (16749 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh:

ok..whatever.. i still think he's op in this fight..... and btw.. the pic i posted... it's dr. fate controlled by nabu there (because you can see the flesh on fate.. while nabu doesn't appear to have a body when fighting spectre in fate's outfit)

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#37 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

@mysticmedivh:

ok..whatever.. i still think he's op in this fight..... and btw.. the pic i posted... it's dr. fate controlled by nabu there (because you can see the flesh on fate.. while nabu doesn't appear to have a body when fighting spectre in fate's outfit)

Like I said, I believe that's Pre-Crisis Doctor Fate.

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#38 Posted by buttersdaman000 (23231 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@mysticmedivh:

Ah, well then, I have no clue lol

If it gives you a sense of direction, some feats (with the amps) I recall was Silver Surfer being able to control time (including halting time altogether). Quasar was above Skyfather's like Odin and Zeus, he fought an Elder God for all of eternity. The rest is sort of blurry, but they've all had the amps in the comics before.

Well, Prime is nigh immune to magic. Even as Superboy he was shrugging off magic attacks like gnats....but, SS may be able to win with a time stop. That being said, you blood lusted everyone here and Prime by far is the fastest. The inevitable speed blitz could certainly prove to be deadly....

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#39 Edited by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@mysticmedivh:

Ah, well then, I have no clue lol

If it gives you a sense of direction, some feats (with the amps) I recall was Silver Surfer being able to control time (including halting time altogether). Quasar was above Skyfather's like Odin and Zeus, he fought an Elder God for all of eternity. The rest is sort of blurry, but they've all had the amps in the comics before.

Well, Prime is nigh immune to magic. Even as Superboy he was shrugging off magic attacks like gnats....but, SS may be able to win with a time stop. That being said, you blood lusted everyone here and Prime by far is the fastest. The inevitable speed blitz could certainly prove to be deadly....

I'd disagree with Prime being immune to magic, and Quasar's powers are of cosmic origin, not magic.

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#40 Posted by buttersdaman000 (23231 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@mysticmedivh said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@mysticmedivh:

Ah, well then, I have no clue lol

If it gives you a sense of direction, some feats (with the amps) I recall was Silver Surfer being able to control time (including halting time altogether). Quasar was above Skyfather's like Odin and Zeus, he fought an Elder God for all of eternity. The rest is sort of blurry, but they've all had the amps in the comics before.

Well, Prime is nigh immune to magic. Even as Superboy he was shrugging off magic attacks like gnats....but, SS may be able to win with a time stop. That being said, you blood lusted everyone here and Prime by far is the fastest. The inevitable speed blitz could certainly prove to be deadly....

I'd disagree with Prime being immune to magic, and Quasar's powers are of cosmic origin, not magic.

Really, why? And, when was Quasar above Skyfather level?

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#41 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@mysticmedivh said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@mysticmedivh:

Ah, well then, I have no clue lol

If it gives you a sense of direction, some feats (with the amps) I recall was Silver Surfer being able to control time (including halting time altogether). Quasar was above Skyfather's like Odin and Zeus, he fought an Elder God for all of eternity. The rest is sort of blurry, but they've all had the amps in the comics before.

Well, Prime is nigh immune to magic. Even as Superboy he was shrugging off magic attacks like gnats....but, SS may be able to win with a time stop. That being said, you blood lusted everyone here and Prime by far is the fastest. The inevitable speed blitz could certainly prove to be deadly....

I'd disagree with Prime being immune to magic, and Quasar's powers are of cosmic origin, not magic.

Really, why? And, when was Quasar above Skyfather level?

Prime is highly resistant to magic, no doubt, but IIRC his only resistance feats are Mordru's magic pellets and Black Adam's magical lightning infused punch.

Regardless, his immunity to magic is a NLF.

This was my explanation on another thread:

Let's say you display complete invulnerability to telepathy from Professor X, Doctor Strange, Emma Frost, and Thanos.

By doing so you prove that, for the most part, are immune to telepathy up to the most powerful character that you've shown invulnerability to.

However, without the proper feats, that does not mean that someone who is countless leagues above you (let's say the Living Tribunal) can't use telepathy on you unless you have shown such feats in regards to characters in that tier.

I may be invulnerable to bullets, but that doesn't mean I'm invulnerable to a tank shell.

Quasar was above Skyfathers when he had the Uni-Power and Eye of Agamotto.

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@ssj_god said:

dr. fate is getting controlled by nabu? the same nabu who fought spectre? o.O

And so did Black Adam and many other characters

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#43 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

dr. fate is getting controlled by nabu? the same nabu who fought spectre? o.O

And so did Black Adam

Like I already said though, Fate never fought Spectre.

Nabu the entity did, but Fate wasn't being controlled, he wasn't there altogether.

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#45 Posted by willpayton (22200 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, this is a massive stomp in favor of the DC team. Multiple people, maybe even all, on the DC team can solo.

I'll give it to team marvel

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#47 Edited by willpayton (22200 posts) - - Show Bio

Here are some feats.

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Quasar fought Set, an Elder God, for all of eternity before using the Eye of Agamotto to BFR him in there.

Elder Gods are typically considered to be above Skyfathers.

Here are some of Set's feats: http://www.comicvine.com/elder-gods/4060-52790/forums/set-chronology-751781/

Surfer stopping time.

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Surfer manipulating time will mean nothing since Alan Scott can do it even when in-character and not bloodlusted. In this battle he becomes possessed by the Starheart and could solo the Marvel team. The rest arent even needed. With them... massive overkill.

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#49 Posted by willpayton (22200 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton And Quasar being on par with Elder Gods?

Lets see the feats. Being an elder god or being compared to one is not that meaningful, since just like normal gods they can vary vastly in power.

Everyone on the DC team is a team-wrecker in their own right. Alan soloed DC Earth. Dr Fate if he has the power of Nabu (implied by the OP) is the most powerful Lord of Order, and so more powerful than skyfathers like Zeus. Either of these two alone could wreck the Marvel team.

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#50 Posted by mysticmedivh (32254 posts) - - Show Bio

@willpayton The reason why I was asking was not to engage in debate or to question the power of the DC team but to learn, so thanks for sharing your info.

I'll edit the OP to make this more fair.