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#1 Edited by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio
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Kakashi, Asuma, Hayate Gekko and Yamato

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Agent Venom,Bone claw sabretooth, Captain america, Black Panther, Deathstroke,Spider man(Peter parker), Daredevil,Batman, Daredevil.

Rules:

Morals on

Standard gear for everyone but BP, that only gets an un-armoured costume and two steel blades.

Random encounter.

Basic knowledge on enemies.

Pre-new 52 version for Dc characters.

All Shinobi are alive(non edo, edo feats can still be used for stats and skill), Kakashi still has his sharingan, but will only use Kamui defensibly(like he did against pain)and won't use genjutsu.

Anime and Manga feats allowed.

The Shinobi are in war-asset, so will go for the kill.

Fight takes place here, no bystanders:

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#2 Edited by Wolfrazer (13915 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow a thread with Hayate! Interesting to see him used.

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#3 Posted by 106me (3475 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. The only ones who poses a threat to Team 2 are Peter and Agent Venom. The rest could be one shotted. Not really a fair battle.

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#4 Posted by Wolfrazer (13915 posts) - - Show Bio

@106me said:

Team 2. The only ones who poses a threat to Team 2 are Peter and Agent Venom. The rest could be one shotted. Not really a fair battle.

Don't you mean Team 1?

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#5 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

@106me said:

Team 2. The only ones who poses a threat to Team 2 are Peter and Agent Venom. The rest could be one shotted. Not really a fair battle.

Deathstroke, Cap and Bp not being a threat?

Why, your grace?

Wow a thread with Hayate! Interesting to see him used.

He has really few fights....but i overall like tha char.

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#6 Posted by Jgames (6150 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 should take it since kakkashi and yammamoto can take out most of the members easily, with only venom and spiderman being the onlh one with the chance to win. But with the other two helping them out, team 1should take the majority

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#7 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

@jgames said:

Team 1 should take it since kakkashi and yammamoto can take out most of the members easily, with only venom and spiderman being the onlh one with the chance to win. But with the other two helping them out, team 1should take the majority

Deathstroke, Cap and Bp are surely strong and fast enough to hurt anyone on team 1.

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#8 Edited by Wolfrazer (13915 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@wolfrazer said:

Wow a thread with Hayate! Interesting to see him used.

He has really few fights....but i overall like tha char.

Well from what we do see of Hayate, he is a high level jonin, could even place him in ANBU class.

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#9 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (9121 posts) - - Show Bio

Kamui, sharingan. Game over.

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#10 Posted by ssj_god (15754 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat:

team 1 .. pretty handily ... mokuten would do heavy damage alone ... kamui will bfr every incoming attacks... asuma's chakra infused kunai knives can go through any armors .. and .. not to mention kakashi can use shadow clone jutsu.. what if they all transform into team 2 members ..

OMG .. so much possibilities ... team 1 wins -_-

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#11 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@wolfrazer said:

Wow a thread with Hayate! Interesting to see him used.

He has really few fights....but i overall like tha char.

Well from what we do see of Hayate, he is a high level jonin even could place him in ANBU class.

Well, we can assume that, but sadly by feats he's a fast-ish sword user with next to none true ninja techniques(the explosive kunai and a few clones are the only notable ones), so he does not stack up to his team mates here.

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#12 Edited by Wolfrazer (13915 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@wolfrazer said:

@pierpat said:

@wolfrazer said:

Wow a thread with Hayate! Interesting to see him used.

He has really few fights....but i overall like tha char.

Well from what we do see of Hayate, he is a high level jonin even could place him in ANBU class.

Well, we can assume that, but sadly by feats he's a fast-ish sword user with next to none true ninja techniques(the explosive kunai and a few clones are the only notable ones), so he does not stack up to his team mates here.

He's a jonin specialist, so of course his sword technique is his main thing. He does have quite few impressive ninjutsu with utilizing his sword, Crescent Moon Dance, Secret Sword: Moonlight. He also showed some nice stealth ability with Transparent Escape Technique and also some nice Taijutsu and of course knowing how to use Shadow Clones(fully solid, able to attack), pretty fast reflexes, cunning/strategy.

He could probably actually speedblitz some of the opponents here.

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#13 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

Kamui, sharingan. Game over.

Read Op before posting, please.

It's not that difficult.

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@pierpat:

team 1 .. pretty handily ... mokuten would do heavy damage alone ... kamui will bfr every incoming attacks... asuma's chakra infused kunai knives can go through any armors .. and .. not to mention kakashi can use shadow clone jutsu.. what if they all transform into team 2 members ..

OMG .. so much possibilities ... team 1 wins -_-

Yamato's wood technique is really over-hyped.

he ain't Hashirama, he can't do half of the things he could with it.

And Asuma does not have feats for "going through anything", really when sasuke managed to do that with his sword it was considered something unique, so i really doubt asuma can do the same.

And the guy's shadow clone jutsus are one touch dead, the only one with effective clones here is Yamato, with his wood clones.

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#14 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@wolfrazer said:

@pierpat said:

@wolfrazer said:

Wow a thread with Hayate! Interesting to see him used.

He has really few fights....but i overall like tha char.

Well from what we do see of Hayate, he is a high level jonin even could place him in ANBU class.

Well, we can assume that, but sadly by feats he's a fast-ish sword user with next to none true ninja techniques(the explosive kunai and a few clones are the only notable ones), so he does not stack up to his team mates here.

He's a jonin specialist, so of course his sword technique is his main thing. He does have quite few impressive ninjutsu with utilizing his sword, Crescent Moon Dance, Secret Sword: Moonlight. He also showed some nice stealth ability with Transparent Escape Technique and also some nice Taijutsu and of course knowing how to use Shadow Clones(fully solid, able to attack), pretty fast reflexes, cunning/strategy.

He could probably actually speedblitz some of the opponents here.

Yeah, yeah, he's not bad.

I'm just saying he does not stack up to the other three(kakashi and Yamato in particular).

About speedblitzing....he could have a chance with Nightwing, all the others are at least bullet parryers or more, he's not that fast.

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#15 Edited by Wolfrazer (13915 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: True, although i'll correct myself when I say speedblitz, I mean move fast enough to give them trouble as he did move fast enough to leave behind afterimages of himself. + That with shadow clones(though yes I know they can be destroyed easy, but still) and the other jonin here, the comic streets are gonna have problems.

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#16 Posted by DBVSE7 (8192 posts) - - Show Bio

Smh 4 on 8 Team 1 still takes it.

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#17 Posted by DarkRaiden (15467 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1....until I saw my man Black Panther. Him+Deathstroke+Spider-Man+Sabretooth = ninjas having a bad day.

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#18 Edited by ssj_god (15754 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@ssj_god said:

@pierpat:

team 1 .. pretty handily ... mokuten would do heavy damage alone ... kamui will bfr every incoming attacks... asuma's chakra infused kunai knives can go through any armors .. and .. not to mention kakashi can use shadow clone jutsu.. what if they all transform into team 2 members ..

OMG .. so much possibilities ... team 1 wins -_-

Yamato's wood technique is really over-hyped.

he ain't Hashirama, he can't do half of the things he could with it.

And Asuma does not have feats for "going through anything", really when sasuke managed to do that with his sword it was considered something unique, so i really doubt asuma can do the same.

And the guy's shadow clone jutsus are one touch dead, the only one with effective clones here is Yamato, with his wood clones.

finishing these guys won't need quarter of hashirama's mokuten

infusing chakra with weapons and throw them right through everything was asuma's speciality .. if you don't remember, he was teaching those things to naruto and sasuke i guess

doesn't matter if shadow clones are one touch dead, they still can use kunai knives, other weapons and have exact same skill as kakashi... then there's everyone transforming into team 2 thing.... kakashi's underground attack, kakashi's summoned bloodhounds... not to mention MS genjutsu

so much things are going for team 1 here

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#19 Posted by Ratava (8480 posts) - - Show Bio

Team Hidden Leaf - too versatile with their jutsus especially with Kakashi/Yamato around

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#20 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god: I won't debate the battle since it's my thread, but infusing chakra is not even vaguely as refined as what Sasuke did.His was applying chidori to the blade, Asuma simply infuses non refined chakra.

So, it's not on the same level as Sasuke's technique, and he does not either have the feats to proof that he can cut trough anything that is not flesh.

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#21 Posted by DatSwampertAzz (997 posts) - - Show Bio

you must hate naruto XD

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#22 Edited by ssj_god (15754 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@ssj_god: I won't debate the battle since it's my thread, but infusing chakra is not even vaguely as refined as what Sasuke did.His was applying chidori to the blade, Asuma simply infuses non refined chakra.

So, it's not on the same level as Sasuke's technique, and he does not either have the feats to proof that he can cut trough anything that is not flesh.

that's not the only thing is going for team 1 here .. i have no intention of arguing for asuma either.. yes sasuke's one was better .. but still asuma's one will possess threat to team 2.. asuma threw a chakra infused knife casually and it went through two big trees.. that feat makes it a potent ability against the team

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#23 Posted by Ratava (8480 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@ssj_god: I won't debate the battle since it's my thread, but infusing chakra is not even vaguely as refined as what Sasuke did.His was applying chidori to the blade, Asuma simply infuses non refined chakra.

So, it's not on the same level as Sasuke's technique, and he does not either have the feats to proof that he can cut trough anything that is not flesh.

iirc he explained, that his chakra blades absorb the chakra nature of the user and while he shows naruto the power of his knifes by throwing it through a tree/stone (while not even trying), he infuses them with his wind natured chakra not just non refined chakra. later against hidan he easily cuts through his sword. he even said that wind element is the strongest for melee combat because if two ninjas with sharpened weapons fight the one with the sharper one will win.

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#24 Edited by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

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@pierpat said:

@ssj_god: I won't debate the battle since it's my thread, but infusing chakra is not even vaguely as refined as what Sasuke did.His was applying chidori to the blade, Asuma simply infuses non refined chakra.

So, it's not on the same level as Sasuke's technique, and he does not either have the feats to proof that he can cut trough anything that is not flesh.

iirc he explained, that his chakra blades absorb the chakra nature of the user and while he shows naruto the power of his knifes by throwing it through a tree/stone (while not even trying), he infuses them with his wind natured chakra not just non refined chakra. later against hidan he easily cuts through his sword. he even said that wind element is the strongest for melee combat because if two ninjas with sharpened weapons fight the one with the sharper one will win.

But again Sasuke's blade is regarded as unique and that "it can cut trough anything", while Asuma never had similar claims nor his technique was ever regarded as particularly special.

So the whole "wind is better for melee" seems quite wrong.

Ssj i never said the tecnique was not dangerous for the comic team,simply wanted to say it could not cut trough anything(in particular referring to Cap's shield).

@datswampertazz Who are you talking to?

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#25 Posted by Ratava (8480 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@ratava said:

@pierpat said:

@ssj_god: I won't debate the battle since it's my thread, but infusing chakra is not even vaguely as refined as what Sasuke did.His was applying chidori to the blade, Asuma simply infuses non refined chakra.

So, it's not on the same level as Sasuke's technique, and he does not either have the feats to proof that he can cut trough anything that is not flesh.

iirc he explained, that his chakra blades absorb the chakra nature of the user and while he shows naruto the power of his knifes by throwing it through a tree/stone (while not even trying), he infuses them with his wind natured chakra not just non refined chakra. later against hidan he easily cuts through his sword. he even said that wind element is the strongest for melee combat because if two ninjas with sharpened weapons fight the one with the sharper one will win.

But again Sasuke's blade is regarded as unique and that "it can cut trough anything", while Asuma never had similar claims nor his technique was ever regarded as particularly special.

So the whole "wind is better for melee" seems quite wrong.

the kusanagi from orochimaru "can cut through anything" not the one from sasuke. sasuke channels his lightning chakra trough the sword to increase its cutting ability.

lightning chakra creates a high frequency vibration so its more like a "saw" whereas wind chakra infused weapons like asuma blades cut with sheer sharpness.

kakashi even mentioned that wind natured chakra gives you the ability to "cut and sever" everything and is perfect for melee battles. so why should we doubt the statements of kakashi/asuma?

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#26 Edited by DBVSE7 (8192 posts) - - Show Bio

Writers over Opinions js

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#27 Posted by ssj_god (15754 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat:

ohh .. i'm sure it won't cut through cap's shield .. i wasn't even implying that .. i was telling about their suits and armor kinda stuff .. cap's shield is special :)

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#28 Posted by Ratava (8480 posts) - - Show Bio

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@pierpat:

ohh .. i'm sure it won't cut through cap's shield .. i wasn't even implying that .. i was telling about their suits and armor kinda stuff .. cap's shield is special :)

yeah, it wont cut the shield, the best showing from asumas blades was stone and the sword from hidan

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#29 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

@ratava said:

@pierpat said:

@ratava said:

@pierpat said:

@ssj_god: I won't debate the battle since it's my thread, but infusing chakra is not even vaguely as refined as what Sasuke did.His was applying chidori to the blade, Asuma simply infuses non refined chakra.

So, it's not on the same level as Sasuke's technique, and he does not either have the feats to proof that he can cut trough anything that is not flesh.

iirc he explained, that his chakra blades absorb the chakra nature of the user and while he shows naruto the power of his knifes by throwing it through a tree/stone (while not even trying), he infuses them with his wind natured chakra not just non refined chakra. later against hidan he easily cuts through his sword. he even said that wind element is the strongest for melee combat because if two ninjas with sharpened weapons fight the one with the sharper one will win.

But again Sasuke's blade is regarded as unique and that "it can cut trough anything", while Asuma never had similar claims nor his technique was ever regarded as particularly special.

So the whole "wind is better for melee" seems quite wrong.

the kusanagi from orochimaru "can cut through anything" not the one from sasuke. sasuke channels his lightning chakra trough the sword to increase its cutting ability.

lightning chakra creates a high frequency vibration so its more like a "saw" whereas wind chakra infused weapons like asuma blades cut with sheer sharpness.

kakashi even mentioned that wind natured chakra gives you the ability to "cut and sever" everything and is perfect for melee battles. so why should we doubt the statements of kakashi/asuma?

I never said it was not good for cutting.

I just wanted to say we cannot assume it cannot "cut trough anything", that is the original sentence that started the question.

Sasuke as in "used and owned by sasuke", of course i'm referring to the Kusanagi.

It has an in-built ability, ok, but sasuke's chakra surely enhances the blade's cutting power.

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#30 Posted by Nyas (3244 posts) - - Show Bio

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Team Hidden Leaf - too versatile with their jutsus especially with Kakashi/Yamato around

Kamui, sharingan. Game over.

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#31 Edited by ULTRAstarkiller (9121 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:
@ultrastarkiller said:

Kamui, sharingan. Game over.

Read Op before posting, please.

It's not that difficult.

Ya, I know right! I don't understand why people don't do that.

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#32 Posted by Kazuma_Bushi (1130 posts) - - Show Bio

Do people read the OP before posting? Kakashi can't use Kamui to attack or Genjustu. I still think team 1 takes it though.

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#33 Edited by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio
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#34 Edited by Nyas (3244 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: Kakashi uses Kamui to send the guns, shield and other weapons away. Pure self-defense, so even if a few limbs get Kamuied in the process, there should be no problem.

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#35 Edited by DBVSE7 (8192 posts) - - Show Bio

Chill.. it's not that big of a deal lol.. I don't get what he really did to suggest he didn't read the OP O.o all he said was

"Sharingan and Kamui Game over"..

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#36 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (9121 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@ultrastarkiller said:

@pierpat said:
@ultrastarkiller said:

Kamui, sharingan. Game over.

Read Op before posting, please.

It's not that difficult.

Ya, I know right! I don't understand why people don't do that.

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@ultrastarkiller said:

Kamui, sharingan. Game over.

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As soon as a sword/fist/claws/webs come his way he sees it with his sharingan uses Kamui to send it away.

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@pierpat: Kakashi uses Kamui to send the guns, shield and other weapons away. Pure self-defense, so even if a few limbs get Kamuied in the process, there should be no problem.

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This too.

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#37 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

@nyas said:

@pierpat: Kakashi uses Kamui to send the guns, shield and other weapons away. Pure self-defense, so even if a few limbs get Kamuied in the process, there should be no problem.

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Like.He.Did.With.Pain.

It's in the op, i even thought of something like that.

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#38 Posted by Wolverine008 (50954 posts) - - Show Bio

Jonin.

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#39 Posted by Jgames (6150 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: true but kakkashi and yammamoto have superior long range attack that are hard to dodge for bp, cap and slade. While they can probaly beat gekka and asuma, they getting eliminated before that happened

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#40 Posted by Nyas (3244 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@nyas said:

@pierpat: Kakashi uses Kamui to send the guns, shield and other weapons away. Pure self-defense, so even if a few limbs get Kamuied in the process, there should be no problem.

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Like.He.Did.With.Pain.

It's in the op, i even thought of something like that.

Aaaaand.. what exactly did I do wrong ? Kakashi sent the missile and Nail away, he will do the same with the weapons.

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#42 Posted by DBVSE7 (8192 posts) - - Show Bio

@nyas: right :P -waits for OP to change-

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#43 Edited by Nyas (3244 posts) - - Show Bio

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@nyas: right :P -waits for OP to change-

Loopholes are so much fun.

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#44 Posted by Pierpat (5255 posts) - - Show Bio

@nyas said:

@dbvse7 said:

@nyas: right :P -waits for OP to change-

Loopholes are so much fun.

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@nyas said:

@pierpat said:

@nyas said:

@pierpat: Kakashi uses Kamui to send the guns, shield and other weapons away. Pure self-defense, so even if a few limbs get Kamuied in the process, there should be no problem.

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Like.He.Did.With.Pain.

It's in the op, i even thought of something like that.

Aaaaand.. what exactly did I do wrong ? Kakashi sent the missile and Nail away, he will do the same with the weapons.

Fine with the weapons, the limbs where my issue xD

And he never targeted enemies, just projectiles.And in char he won't spam it.Can we try to have a serious talk?You know, for someone that likes naruto like you evidently do,is stupid posting something that is not useful for the discussion and that won't help naruto on the board.
And i don't change OPs for things like this.

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@pierpat: true but kakkashi and yammamoto have superior long range attack that are hard to dodge for bp, cap and slade. While they can probaly beat gekka and asuma, they getting eliminated before that happened

Kakashi's long range is lacking at best, while Yamamoto can't deal with three guys meta human in speed and agility.

And please, check the spelling of the characters now and again xD

I'll use the callouts hoping someone will post something serious:

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#46 Posted by DBVSE7 (8192 posts) - - Show Bio

@nyas: Loopholes make the world go round :D

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#47 Edited by Nyas (3244 posts) - - Show Bio
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Fine with the weapons, the limbs where my issue xD

And he never targeted enemies, just projectiles.And in char he won't spam it.Can we try to have a serious talk?You know, for someone that likes naruto like you evidently do,is stupid posting something that is not useful for the discussion and that won't help naruto on the board.

And i don't change OPs for things like this.

Oh but I never said he had to Kamui their limbs ? I just said that "IF" a few limbs get Kamuied in the process it would still be accidental, thus it doesn't break the rules.

He would have used Kamui on Azura path rather than the missile, the only thing that stopped him was his obvious lack of chakra :

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Also the whole fight against obito and madara was all about spamming Kamui, so yes he does spam it on character.

Troll mode [OFF]/On

Ok so how is team 2 supposed to win here ?

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#48 Posted by kasino (2036 posts) - - Show Bio

Jonin easily.

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#49 Posted by DBVSE7 (8192 posts) - - Show Bio

@nyas: The only real chances that I see are with DS ad Spidey :P

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#50 Posted by Nyas (3244 posts) - - Show Bio

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@nyas: The only real chances that I see are with DS ad Spidey :P

Yeah but with Kakashi and yamato here, and with the Ninjas' team work in general. I don't see how T2 would win.