@imquentin: intangibility is banned here, Wonder Man isn't countering anything, and even if Vision was allowed to use it, he would know better than to use it since that tactic has failed two times already. Simon already has a spotty record against Vision too - Vision has punched him out before and has KOd him and Atlas by dropping on them while at his maximum density.
Hercules isn't stronger than Thor, they are equals, and Thing has already stalemated Hercules on several occasions, plus he has superior (by far) durability. Not to mention, Ben has KOd Thor before, has given him problems to the point Thor needed Sif's help to restrain him and a clone of Thor needed to blindside and gang up on out of breath Ben together with Hulk and Colossus clones and it still took a "hail of blows" from 3 of them to take him out.
Don't forget that Vision has already wrecked Jane Thor, who was evenly matched with Hercules, and that Ben had already beaten Wonder Man (who wasn't just compared to Sentry, but was also said to be as powerful as Thor many times) on multiple occasions, as well as has beaten Dragon Man, someone who Hercules admitted he can't beat with brute force, and overpowered Anak, who was said by Thor to possess strength rivaling that of Hercules.
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