Hercules vs Invincible

Hercules vs Invincible

V.S.

General Rules

• Hercules has his Golden Axe, his Nemean Lion coat and an archery set with adamantium tipped arrows.
• Hercules is standard 616 composite not Chaos War.
• Invincible is pre-#132
• No prep.
• Both are serious.
• Battle takes place in a dessert, daytime 35 feet apart.
• No BFR.

Round 3

• Morals on for both.
• Mark cannot fly above 3 feet in the air.
• Basic knowledge.
• No speed blitz.

Round 2

• Morals on for Mark and off for Hercules.
• Mark can fly.
• Basic knowledge.

Round 3

• Both are bloodlusted.
• Mark can fly and Hercules has a pegasus (let's say it is as fast as Mark and as durable as a tank).
• Extensive knowledge for both.
• Anything goes (even BFR).

Bonus Round

• Morals on.
• Hercules gets no weapons or gear.
• Mark can fly.
• Basic knowledge.
• No speed blitz.

I'd say Round 1 & 2 for Hercules fairly easily. Round 3 I'm inclined to lean toward Hercules as well as Invinvible tends to slug it out with people I think Hercules is above him in both strength and durability and a bloodlusted Hercules is no joke. Throw in his golden mace which rivals Mjolnir in striking and The Prince of Power stands victorious.

what feats do invincible have?

Hercules stomps all rounds.

@watcher5000: Punched his way through a small mountain range against a villain. Blew up a small mountain by blitzing someone through it. Can fly FTL and has flown through an unstable planet at that speed with 2 others. Out races a teleporter for a short bit on earth. Survives L.A. getting glassed by fifty small hydrogen bombs. Stuff like that.

Seconded.

even without composite herc still wins.

@cptstormsword:

Given the gear Herc is allotted here, I concur.

@rockette: Eh he doesn't need any gear to tool on Mark tbh

@cptstormsword:

Maybe. You just said straight up "wins".

I think w/out that gear Herc still wins, but it'll be a decent (if short) fight.

Herc with that gear, this is no contest.

Composite Herc with gear is a Mismatch.

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Herc got this for sure reading all the conditions

Did Mark get new feats or something recently? I haven't kept up with Invincible after his "plot devi-" I mean small powerup. I might get back to it, but it won't be anytime soon

Hercules manhandles him the first two rounds. Mark's only hope is blitzing him into space round 3.

Grayson just cant compete that well with the physical stats, and the experience in battle and fighting skills are just in another dimension for Hercs favor.

Thirded.

Hercules is much stronger and much more durable than Mark.

@sophia89: Okay.

@highaccuser: He hlitz in Round 2 now as well.

@watcher5000: He can travel at FTL speeds, fight as hypersonic speeds, carry 500+ tons with ease, kill other stronger Virumites with his blitz, he is quite durable and expirenced being a hero since he was a teen all the way to adult hood.

His best best is busting a planet with help from 2 other people (1 weaker than him) and Space Racer making the planet unstable.

@major_hellstorm: Space Racer never made the planet unstable. Just the inner Nickle core. Context.

It's a great feat but you have to be very specific on the description.

@sirfizzwhizz: Same no difference?

Yeah, okay.

@sirfizzwhizz: I don't think Invincible is below She-Hulk, but I could see bricks in her tier (so Thing and Namor) being argued as having better strength and durability.

@highaccuser: She Hulk matched Herc in strength though.

I believe she had on a special suit which made her stronger, not to mention it's the only time she's come close to that level of strength.

@highaccuser: let me know when Thing of Namor can heal and withstand holes in their stomachs and broken spines. Let me know when they travel between America and Anartica in seconds. Fly FTL in space. Let me know they rip apart Carbonadium tentacles of Doc sick with ease. I will wait for those feats of Thing and Namor.

@major_hellstorm: pretty much. So the ranking goes ....

Noone's Iron Man

Hulk

Herculese

She Hulk

Namor

Thing

Colossus

Luke Cage

Spider-Man

Captain America

Punisher

Aunt May with frying pan

And then we have Invincible at the bottom.

That is comicvine for ya.

@heirtothekingdom: I don't remember her wearing anything, but she has beat classic Thor granted he wasn't using a hammer and she also matched the Thing multiple times. That's off topic though.

She didn't beat Classic Thor, she just punched him back which didn't actually harm him. Matching Thing is what she's supposed to do given they're in a similar ballpark.

@heirtothekingdom: She punched him out of a window IIRC, he wasn't unharmed unlike when she punched SS. Yeah but the Thing is equal to Hercules in terms of feats, so the 3 of them should all be equal.

Some people just can't handle that Mark is mid-tier.

When I mean he was unharmed, I meant it didn't have any lasting effect. The blow knocked him back out the aircraft and that was it. Surfer is more durable than Thor, so there is that.

Thing is not equal to Hercules in terms of feats. Hercules has much better feats like dragging the entirety of Manhattan, or physically strong enough to go rounds with Savage Hulk, or being equal to Thor in physical strength.

@sirfizzwhizz: You don't actually believe mark could beat Hercules do you? Like in a slug fest...

@cptstormsword: yup. Mark flying FTL speeds, knocks down Skyscrapers with ease, plow through layers of a planet, and craters large section of the moon with a bullrush attack is very Mid Tier. I mean what are people thinking? Lol

As mid tier as 90% of the feats Godzilla has. Sooooo mid tier :/

@heirtothekingdom: It still harmed him even though he recovered instantly. I know, but I was saying unharmed means nit even flinching like SS.

That is going too off topic. I'll just say that Thing written properly was OP, a mountain buster who could punch mountains away, match the Hulk, punch away Terrax, fight Doom with SS powers till Reed made a plan and carry 10,000+ tons no sweat (not even his best feat).

@cptstormsword: also no I don't. Thankfully Mark has more than strength behind him. He can for sure tank by feats multiple blows, but is many times faster, and BFR Herc in space like Mark has in the a past against another super strength foe is always a easy win since Herc cannot fly at all.

But I'm just a bias Indy fan, yu huk, yu huk, whoooooweeee.

@sirfizzwhizz: You forgot the fact that him just flying fast can carve up mountain sides. He is a low high tier.

@major_hellstorm: blasphemy!!!!! Mark is high street at best! Jeezus.

@sirfizzwhizz: Lol.

But I think people are really underestimating him here, especially the importance of both flight and speed, Mark coukd land a dozen blows beforr Herc lands one (not saying he wins though).

When mark starts eating nukes for breakfast and punches out people with nuke++ durability then we could discuss high tier. Joes Fixit destroyed an asteroid the size of a state and Silver Centurion Iron Man busts mountains casually. Still doesn't make them high tier. The planet was unstable and done with others. Doesn't make him high tier.

He can for sure tank by feats multiple blows, but is many times faster, and BFR Herc in space like Mark has in the a past against another super strength foe is always a easy win since Herc cannot fly at all.

Tanking punches from the guy who fought savage hulk and worthy Thor? Lol come on Mark doesn't have close to the durability needed to shake off blows from Hercules. Mark gets broken bones from guys who can plow through mountains, like pre-extremis Iron Man, pray tell how is he tanking blows from Hulk-lite?

@cptstormsword:

Lol Mark has tank Nukes with no damage, and the energy attack stated to level cities.Grey Hulk asteroid feat is not only inconsistent but heavy in context and prep. So why bother bringing that up?Centurieon IM mountain bust feats was not even that impressive and debunk in a way in past threads.

None of what you listed is comparable to what Mark dealt with.

Oh so Herc will drop Mark faster than he drop She Hulk, Thing, the Wrecking Crew? Riiiight.... also plowing through mountains never broken any of Marks bones. Ever. Conquest had to spend a comic and half of attacks to break any one on Mark. Want to play lowball game? Herc was beaten into a coma by the Wrecking Crew who are barely past mid tier lmao. I can play this game mate ;)

@major_hellstorm: people will always underestimate Mark and wank the shit out of more popular charcaters. Look at Captain Swords above comment of Grey Hulk legit smashing asteroids twice the size of earth lol. He even stated Mark never tank a Nuke when that is one of Marks most well known feats lol. So sad I have to debate against this kind of dumb crap.

@sirfizzwhizz: Lol. I'll get the nuke feat.

@major_hellstorm: I would post feats myself but on IPhone so cannot post shit. But hey, I have tons of feats to copy and paste from Invincible vs threads. This shit is stupid as of now. Mid Tier. Wow.

Saying Invincible is mid tier is like saying Midnighter is street level. The ignorance.

@cptstormsword: @sirfizzwhizz: Nuke feat.

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