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#1 Edited by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

Mephisto Blackheart Dormammu Cyttorak Satannish Surtur pluto

VS

Odin Zeus Yahweh Seth Cul

Battle takes place in hell

Bloodlusted

No BFR

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#2 Posted by BladeOfFury (2521 posts) - - Show Bio

Hell lords easily. Dormammu and Cyttorak are MVPs.

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#3 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Edited by destinyman75 (9123 posts) - - Show Bio

Cytorak is above the all the normal hell Lords combined mephisto black heart Hela etc. But Dormmamu and Surtur are as well. I see Odin stopping everyone fairly easily (mephisto, satanish, and black heart aren't enough for him) with the exception of Cytorak who beats him. Dormmamu is just slightly under him, and Surtur is his equal so Given the other skyfathers are weaker Hell Lords win here Odin can't win alone, and probably not at all against cytorak

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#5 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: yahweh is powerful he created earth Ghost Rider spirits humans.....

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#6 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (10326 posts) - - Show Bio

why is pluto, an actual hell-lord, in the skyfather category?

Hell-Lords should take this. Yahweh shouldnt be here, his place in marvel isnt known.

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#7 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@asgardianbrony: yahweh is very mysterious i agree

I thought i integrated pluto with the hell lords my bad

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#8 Edited by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

The Skyfathers can channel their energy into one being, and instead of it only being a portion of their life force (like it was against the Celestials), they could channel the full extent of their powers and manage to take on anybody from team one, with the exclusion of Cyttarok. Although an argument can be made because Odin has torn at the fabric of the Multiverse himself, which means that their combined powers might be sufficient in getting the task done.

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#9 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: odin is by no means multiversal he is universal at his best and thats debatable skyfathers are not that great

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#10 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: odin is by no means multiversal he is universal at his best and thats debatable skyfathers are not that great

Odin has torn at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. I don't see why multiplying his power by five wouldn't pose some sort of a threat to Cyttorak.

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#11 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: he cant odin is not multiversal even at his best

Weaker skyfathers so his power isnt multiplied by five....

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#12 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: he cant odin is not multiversal even at his best

Weaker skyfathers so his power isnt multiplied by five....

He's torn at the fabric of the Multiverse...

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#13 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio
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#14 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: nope he will never be that powerful

Odin fights a Cosmic Sentient Super-Storm the size of a Galaxy for days on end and wins

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Odin fights an Amped Seth and wins. The fight shakes the very fabric of the Multiverse and shatters Galaxies

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And Odin was weakened during that fight. He had just gained back his power. He still thought and reacted like a Mortal

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Odin fights and defeats Infinity. This battle crumbles entire Galaxies. Odin undoes all of the damage

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And Odin was weakened in this fight. Infinity was created using half of Odin's Soul

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Odin gives all of his Odin-Force to Seidring. Depowered Odin managed to survive several hits from him

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Odin manages to very briefly hold his own against Dr.Doom who was amped by the power of Galactus, The Cosmic Cube, The Ultimate Machine,The Sacred Helix and The Cosmic Control Rod

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Odin absorbs the very essence of Surtur into himself

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Odin and Surtur shake the 9 Realms

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Odin states that he has the power to Overthrow a Universe

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Odin one-shot kills Hela

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Odin knocks out Galactus

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And Galactus was well nourished during that fight

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Odin manipulates all the Electro-Magnetic Particles in the Universe to Imprison Surtur

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Odin Rips the 10th Realm from Yggdrasil and seals it in a hut

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And the Realms were stated to be Actual Universes

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Depowered Odin manages to siphon back his stolen Odin-Force from the Skymother Zelia after Thor had hit her with a Godblast and disperses her into the wind along with the rest of her Pantheon

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Surtur's Eternal Flame was burning the 9 Realms and was going to eventually burn the Entire Multiverse

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And yet Odin had no problem containing and Nullifying said Flame

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Odin recreates everything in the Universe

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Odin matches Surtur's Eternal Flame

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Odin's Death is felt in all planes of Realities across Infinite Galaxies. Even the LT notices Odin's death

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In a What-If comic Odin without the Odin-Force defeats Mephisto in Hell

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#15 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: nice scans that prove odin is universal at his strongest

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#16 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: nice scans that prove odin is universal at his strongest

There are two scans where he was effecting the Multiverse. If written properly, why wouldn't he be able to affect Cyttorak? Especially if he can summon the Destroyer at will, the life-fore of Asgard and have his Skyfather buddies (as they've done before) provide him with additional energy?

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#17 Edited by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: celestial beings stomped him hard and they are multiversal.... he is galaxy To universal lvl plus those are the interpretations of asgardianbrony not facts

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#18 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: celestial beings stomped him hard and they are multiversal.... he is galaxy To universal lvl plus those are the interpretations of asgardianbrony not facts

The Celestials created the Marvel Multiverse by breaking the Universe apart. They are above Cyttorak. I still don't see why Odin wouldn't be capable of at least managing something. Can you establish one reason as to why?

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#19 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: he is very powerful and will greatly affect the battle but claiming he is multiversal is wrong

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#20 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: he is very powerful and will greatly affect the battle but claiming he is multiversal is wrong

Okay well... you didn't exactly sway my viewpoint regarding this thread. So I'll ignore you from here on out.

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#21 Edited by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: hhh im the one who created the thread ok suit yourself

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#22 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: hhh im the one who created the thread ok suit yourself

I flagged your thread because you created it with an obvious victor in mind. I gave logical, explanatory reasons as to what team two might be capable of doing, but you rejected them all the same.

This should be locked.

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#23 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: yeah right and everyone disagrees with u

I rejected odin being multiversal not skyfathers winning

Now be gone

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#24 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: yeah right and everyone disagrees with u

I rejected odin being multiversal not skyfathers winning

Now be gone

If Cyttorak is Multiversal and you reject Odin's Multiversal-level feats, how does team two win? Elaborate.

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#25 Posted by destinyman75 (9123 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: That's a good point channeling all the Skyfather power's through Odin would be a big threat to Cytorak since he's not in his realm..hadn't considered that...

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#26 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: cyttorak is by no means multiversal he rules over a dimension like every other hell lord

Dimension =universal

Odin gets stomped by multiversal beings he is universal at his best

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#27 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: cyttorak is by no means multiversal he rules over a dimension like every other hell lord

Dimension =universal

Odin gets stomped by multiversal beings he is universal at his best

Cyttorak is an immensely powerful other-dimensional God or conceptual being who is a threat to Universal and Multiversal scale. Even Mephisto dared to say Cyttorak is the closest candidate to be the true Satan or the most powerful of all demonic entities in the Marvel Universe (above Dormammu, Surtur, Marduk Kurios, Shuma Gorath, etc) because he is the most militant. So if Cyttorak is Multiversal and you deny that Odin's Multiversal level feats, doesn't that suggest that made the thread with an obvious victor in mind?

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#28 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox: Mephisto lost To so many beings his words are not usually correct

Shuma gorath another type 3 demon lost To universal threats cyttorak is not multiversal at all

Odin has no multiversal feats

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#29 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@destinyman75: yup can u plz tell him cyttorak anf odin cant bust the multiverse or repair it

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#30 Posted by JBob (307 posts) - - Show Bio

5 on 7 with cytorrak? easily hell lords if not a stomp. make it 5 on 5 and take out cytorak and depending who else is removed might give skyfathers a chance.

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#31 Edited by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

@JBobGlass: cyttorak is out of his realm

Fine removed surtur and dormy

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#32 Posted by XxdeathmakerxX (1706 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#33 Posted by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxdeathmakerxx said:

@bichwtfxox: odin is by no means multiversal he is universal at his best and thats debatable skyfathers are not that great

Odin has torn at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself.

Wasn't all by himself, rather a shared effort with Seth

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#34 Edited by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@xxdeathmakerxx said:

plus those are the interpretations of asgardianbrony not facts

So it's all Asgardianbrony and no one else supplied those scans or has ever heard of them before?

All the scans in that long post came from me. Get it right.

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#35 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:
@xxdeathmakerxx said:

@bichwtfxox: odin is by no means multiversal he is universal at his best and thats debatable skyfathers are not that great

Odin has torn at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself.

Wasn't all by himself, rather a shared effort with Seth

Within the Multiverse there are far more than one Universes. He tore at more than a mere Universe, which still places it at a higher than Universal-level feat.

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#36 Edited by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:
@xxdeathmakerxx said:

@bichwtfxox: odin is by no means multiversal he is universal at his best and thats debatable skyfathers are not that great

Odin has torn at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself.

Wasn't all by himself, rather a shared effort with Seth

Within the Multiverse there are far more than one Universes. He tore at more than a mere Universe, which still places it at a higher than Universal-level feat.

I wasn't arguing that, simply that you were incorrect by Odin tearing at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself.

You agree now right?

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#37 Posted by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

What is Seth doing here? He's not skyfather tier without amps.

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#38 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

What is Seth doing here? He's not skyfather tier without amps.

It still classifies Odin's feats as above Universal proportions because we, everybody on this board and hopefully you, are aware that there is more than one Universe within the Multiverse.

The feat still stands.

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#39 Edited by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:

What is Seth doing here? He's not skyfather tier without amps.

It still classifies Odin's feats as above Universal proportions because we, everybody on this board and hopefully you, are aware that there is more than one Universe within the Multiverse.

The feat still stands.

I think you quoted the wrong post mate.

You were still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. The feat still stands but you were wrong? Do you admit that you were wrong about that?

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#40 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:

What is Seth doing here? He's not skyfather tier without amps.

It still classifies Odin's feats as above Universal proportions because we, everybody on this board and hopefully you, are aware that there is more than one Universe within the Multiverse.

The feat still stands.

I think you quoted the wrong post mate.

You were still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. The feat still stands but you were wrong? Do you admit that you were wrong about that?

There are more than one Universe within Marvel, far more actually. Even with his own power, he tore at multiple Universes, which by definition, makes it a Multiversal level feat. The only person wrong about this is you.

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#41 Edited by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:

What is Seth doing here? He's not skyfather tier without amps.

It still classifies Odin's feats as above Universal proportions because we, everybody on this board and hopefully you, are aware that there is more than one Universe within the Multiverse.

The feat still stands.

I think you quoted the wrong post mate.

You were still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. The feat still stands but you were wrong? Do you admit that you were wrong about that?

There are more than one Universe within Marvel, far more actually. Even with his own power, he tore at multiple Universes, which by definition, makes it a Multiversal level feat. The only person wrong about this is you.

You claimed he tore at the fabric of the entire Multiverse by himself. That is incorrect because Seth was doing it as well. I'm not even adressing your claims about tearing at Multiple Universes, simply that Odin all by himself didn't tear at the fabric of the Multiverse. You can call it whatever you want but it is a fact that Odin didn't tear at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. Even if you want to call if a Multiversal feat because he was "tearing at Multiple Universes."

Do you agree you were wrong?

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#42 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:

What is Seth doing here? He's not skyfather tier without amps.

It still classifies Odin's feats as above Universal proportions because we, everybody on this board and hopefully you, are aware that there is more than one Universe within the Multiverse.

The feat still stands.

I think you quoted the wrong post mate.

You were still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. The feat still stands but you were wrong? Do you admit that you were wrong about that?

There are more than one Universe within Marvel, far more actually. Even with his own power, he tore at multiple Universes, which by definition, makes it a Multiversal level feat. The only person wrong about this is you.

You claimed he tore at the fabric of the entire Multiverse by himself. That is incorrect because Seth was doing it as well. I'm not even adressing your claims about tearing at Multiple Universes, simply that Odin all by himself didn't tear at the fabric of the Multiverse. You can call it whatever you want but it is a fact that Odin didn't tear at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. Even if you want to call if a Multiversal feat because he was "tearing at Multiple Universes."

Do you agree you were wrong?

Sadly, you don't know what you're talking about:

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The shock-wave rippled through reality, but that doesn't dismiss Odin's Multiversal level feats that he performed all by himself.

Surtur's Eternal Flame was burning the 9 Realms and was going to eventually burn the Entire Multiverse

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And yet Odin had no problem containing and Nullifying said Flame

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And the Realms were stated to be Actual Universes

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So do you admit to being wrong and that if written properly, Odin's powers can approach Multiversal-level proportions?

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#43 Posted by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:

What is Seth doing here? He's not skyfather tier without amps.

It still classifies Odin's feats as above Universal proportions because we, everybody on this board and hopefully you, are aware that there is more than one Universe within the Multiverse.

The feat still stands.

I think you quoted the wrong post mate.

You were still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. The feat still stands but you were wrong? Do you admit that you were wrong about that?

There are more than one Universe within Marvel, far more actually. Even with his own power, he tore at multiple Universes, which by definition, makes it a Multiversal level feat. The only person wrong about this is you.

You claimed he tore at the fabric of the entire Multiverse by himself. That is incorrect because Seth was doing it as well. I'm not even adressing your claims about tearing at Multiple Universes, simply that Odin all by himself didn't tear at the fabric of the Multiverse. You can call it whatever you want but it is a fact that Odin didn't tear at the fabric of the Multiverse all by himself. Even if you want to call if a Multiversal feat because he was "tearing at Multiple Universes."

Do you agree you were wrong?

Sadly, you don't know what you're talking about:

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The shock-wave rippled through reality, but that doesn't dismiss Odin's Multiversal level feats that he performed all by himself.

Surtur's Eternal Flame was burning the 9 Realms and was going to eventually burn the Entire Multiverse

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And yet Odin had no problem containing and Nullifying said Flame

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And the Realms were stated to be Actual Universes

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So do you admit to being wrong and that if written properly, Odin's powers can approach Multiversal-level proportions?

Sadly you don't know what your talking about since your using scans on a Odin Respect Thread that I created. You even copy and pasted one of the sections

Your still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the entire Multiverse all by himself. Let's stick to that.

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#44 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

Sadly you don't know what your talking about since your using scans on a Odin Respect Thread that I created. You even copy and pasted one of the sections

Your still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the entire Multiverse all by himself. Let's stick to that.

Odin channeled energy that could destroy the Multiverse all by himself. He's Multiversal if he is written properly.

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#45 Edited by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:

Sadly you don't know what your talking about since your using scans on a Odin Respect Thread that I created. You even copy and pasted one of the sections

Your still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the entire Multiverse all by himself. Let's stick to that.

Odin channeled energy that could destroy the Multiverse all by himself. He's Multiversal if he is written properly.

Tag me when you respond to me mate and stop dodging the question.

The Energy could have only destroyed the Multitverse via a chain reaction through Otherworld, Once he lost that connection he was limited to the 9 Realms. Surtur described it as throwing a match to a fuse. If someone can channel the energy of a match are they small building level since a match can destroy a small building via a chain reaction?

Have you ever considered all those times he's not Multiversal is when he's written properly given his consistent feats?

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#46 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:

Sadly you don't know what your talking about since your using scans on a Odin Respect Thread that I created. You even copy and pasted one of the sections

Your still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the entire Multiverse all by himself. Let's stick to that.

Odin channeled energy that could destroy the Multiverse all by himself. He's Multiversal if he is written properly.

Tag me when you respond to me mate and stop dodging the question.

The Energy could have only destroyed the Multitverse via a chain reaction through Otherworld, Once he lost that connection he was limited to the 9 Realms. Surtur described it as throwing a match to a fuse. If someone can channel the energy of a match are they small building level since a match can destroy a small building via a chain reaction?

Have you ever considered all those times he's not Multiversal is when he's written properly given his consistent feats?

It's stated that Surtur's fire would have engulfed all realities because they are all interlocked and intertwined. It says nothing about a chain reaction being the cause of this power. Odin was capable of manipulating this power and preventing it from doing so. His Multiversal level feat still stands.

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#47 Posted by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:

Sadly you don't know what your talking about since your using scans on a Odin Respect Thread that I created. You even copy and pasted one of the sections

Your still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the entire Multiverse all by himself. Let's stick to that.

Odin channeled energy that could destroy the Multiverse all by himself. He's Multiversal if he is written properly.

Tag me when you respond to me mate and stop dodging the question.

The Energy could have only destroyed the Multitverse via a chain reaction through Otherworld, Once he lost that connection he was limited to the 9 Realms. Surtur described it as throwing a match to a fuse. If someone can channel the energy of a match are they small building level since a match can destroy a small building via a chain reaction?

Have you ever considered all those times he's not Multiversal is when he's written properly given his consistent feats?

It's stated that Surtur's fire would have engulfed all realities because they are all interlocked and intertwined. It says nothing about a chain reaction being the cause of this power.

Nope mate.

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Why else do you think Otherworld was so Important?

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#48 Edited by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:

Sadly you don't know what your talking about since your using scans on a Odin Respect Thread that I created. You even copy and pasted one of the sections

Your still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the entire Multiverse all by himself. Let's stick to that.

Odin channeled energy that could destroy the Multiverse all by himself. He's Multiversal if he is written properly.

Tag me when you respond to me mate and stop dodging the question.

The Energy could have only destroyed the Multitverse via a chain reaction through Otherworld, Once he lost that connection he was limited to the 9 Realms. Surtur described it as throwing a match to a fuse. If someone can channel the energy of a match are they small building level since a match can destroy a small building via a chain reaction?

Have you ever considered all those times he's not Multiversal is when he's written properly given his consistent feats?

It's stated that Surtur's fire would have engulfed all realities because they are all interlocked and intertwined. It says nothing about a chain reaction being the cause of this power.

Nope mate.

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Why else do you think Otherworld was so Important?

Odin channeled an attack that could destroy the Mulverise, confirmed.

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#49 Posted by FirstHunter (3481 posts) - - Show Bio

@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:

Sadly you don't know what your talking about since your using scans on a Odin Respect Thread that I created. You even copy and pasted one of the sections

Your still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the entire Multiverse all by himself. Let's stick to that.

Odin channeled energy that could destroy the Multiverse all by himself. He's Multiversal if he is written properly.

Tag me when you respond to me mate and stop dodging the question.

The Energy could have only destroyed the Multitverse via a chain reaction through Otherworld, Once he lost that connection he was limited to the 9 Realms. Surtur described it as throwing a match to a fuse. If someone can channel the energy of a match are they small building level since a match can destroy a small building via a chain reaction?

Have you ever considered all those times he's not Multiversal is when he's written properly given his consistent feats?

It's stated that Surtur's fire would have engulfed all realities because they are all interlocked and intertwined. It says nothing about a chain reaction being the cause of this power.

Nope mate.

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Why else do you think Otherworld was so Important?

Odin channeled an attack that could destroy the Mulverise, confirmed.

Stop dodging the question I asked before about the fabric of the Multiverse. If you don't answer it I will think you conceded.

Nope, attack could only destroy Multiverse via otherworld spark, if someone channels a match are they small building level?

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#50 Posted by bichwtfxox (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:
@firsthunter said:
@bichwtfxox said:

Sadly you don't know what your talking about since your using scans on a Odin Respect Thread that I created. You even copy and pasted one of the sections

Your still wrong about Odin tearing at the fabric of the entire Multiverse all by himself. Let's stick to that.

Odin channeled energy that could destroy the Multiverse all by himself. He's Multiversal if he is written properly.

Tag me when you respond to me mate and stop dodging the question.

The Energy could have only destroyed the Multitverse via a chain reaction through Otherworld, Once he lost that connection he was limited to the 9 Realms. Surtur described it as throwing a match to a fuse. If someone can channel the energy of a match are they small building level since a match can destroy a small building via a chain reaction?

Have you ever considered all those times he's not Multiversal is when he's written properly given his consistent feats?

It's stated that Surtur's fire would have engulfed all realities because they are all interlocked and intertwined. It says nothing about a chain reaction being the cause of this power.

Nope mate.

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Why else do you think Otherworld was so Important?

Odin channeled an attack that could destroy the Mulverise, confirmed.

Stop dodging the question I asked before about the fabric of the Multiverse. If you don't answer it I will think you conceded.

Nope, attack could only destroy Multiverse via otherworld spark, if someone channels a match are they small building level?

So we've established that Odin could affect more than one Universe all by himself and channel the energy that could destroy the Multiverse? Yup, he should be able to affect Cyttorak in this thread, that is, if he is written properly.