This fight happens on earth, both fighters are blood lusted, fight to the death and don't care about collateral damage, who wins?
Hela vs Flash (Wally West)
You are joking, right?
A bloodlusted Wally vs someone with no real impressive speed feats, and would not beat him even with morals on...
Hmm i got to think being the God of Death seems pretty self explanatory but wally is the fastest flash and knows how to use the speed force better(but not better than Jay Garick Flash)
@misterwhisper: I don't know, I think you underestimate Hela, she is faster than you think, she can travel to different realms in an instant, I don't even think Flash can do that. If Flash try's to touch her, one touch would probably kill him, he is mortal after all.
Not only does her death touch not work passively nor is it always active, it also only works on contact with bare skin, which is not happening.
I think Hela is being way underrated here but I digress, she could kill flash with an illusion, she doesn't even have to have her physical body there in the presence of flash, she could attack flash from another realm and Flash wouldn't know how to get there, she could attack him with an energy projection of herself and she has instantaneous speed and strength as well, not saying that she would win, but I just think people are underestimating the queen on the underworld.
I think Hela is being way underrated here but I digress, she could kill flash with an illusion, she doesn't even have to have her physical body there in the presence of flash, she could attack flash from another realm and Flash wouldn't know how to get there, she could attack him with an energy projection of herself and she has instantaneous speed and strength as well, not saying that she would win, but I just think people are underestimating the queen on the underworld.
What was the whole point of creating this thread if you were just gonna wank Hela off? Last time I checked, the mind must process an image, preferably where Hela would like to teleport before she actually teleport's there and since this Wally is bloodlusted, I don't think Hela will get time to pull anything off without Wally decapitating her.
She has no control over death, being the queen of underworld doesn't give her an edge.
hela stomps, she doesn't need to be fast, she have cosmic awareness and can cut wally away from the speed force, flash ain't beating a sky father tier being.
First off, speed is a major factor in this battle, how are you planning on winning a fight against something you can merely perceive? She cannot cut Wally away from the speed force, it exists beyond anything Hela has shown control over, this is a bloodlusted Flash with no morals, let alone the fastest Flash.
Wally runs circles around Hela.
@RampageTheFisrst . hela can't die, killing her on earth will only make her re spawn in hel as demonstrated when mephisto killed her.
hela matter manipulation also involves her subconsciously turning someone who touched her to glass, if wally hit her once he gets transmuted , and he can't kill hela as long as she's the goddess of death.
@dami24434: Wally dosen't need to touch her, He steals her speed. making her into a statue then wally can deliver a 100 punches of the speed of light and her head will fall off
@dami24434: When did I ever imply that Wally removes anyones head, The fact that you're so deluded that you don't even know how powerfull wally is
He simply sped up someones brain and turn them into a brocoli, He stole someones speed entirely like inertia turned into a statue, And you're implying that 100 speed of light punches or above won't remove her head when she is frozen in motion?
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Yet you're the one who claimed that hela can cut wally from the speedforce which makes no sense at all, She does not have any power nor any relation to the speedforce, Even if she have cosmic awareness like eobard, its not gonna do much other than telling you that something has changed in space
She will not be able to detect the speedforce at all, only those who access to the speedforce can sense it and be one with it, She does not so stop implying infactual information that is simply missinforming people, Hela Wank
Though I have done some more research and I was not certainly aware that Hela could command all space time, Which is gonna give wally a extremly hard time to escape from death, Afterwall she is death so how the hell do you kill death?
Hela Wins
Wally needs to build up to his speed, and he is certainly bloodlusted but not serious enough to take Hela to think that she's on another level, So he understimates her and Hela throws a spike at the speed of light on if wally is not bloodlusted
But even if wally were bloodlusted how will he take down a time manipulator that might affect wally like when he fought the turtle,, She can command space and time, No one is resistant against that unless he dismantled from space and time, and controls his own timestream
The only thing that I found a feat that is a potentional for wally, that he simply fights infinite man a man who has the power of the DC source stream, wally defeat him with no ease
But here's the thing When speedsters are about to die, Wally runs away from Hela in a battle, no one dies, Wally outruns Black flash as usual, But running from a battle is not a victory but still
If hela is already dead how is this even a fight?
What bothers me more even if Hela can command space and time, how will the spectre allow a stranger from another universe let her control the power of DC's time and space continuum.
Unless this fight was in marvel universe though wally wouldn't have his powers at all, Which means this VS thread is utterly resultless, Its pointless and it does not work
Further explaination is needed
Titles are irrelevant. Wally beats her face in unless she’s completely immune to physical harm at which point he speed steals her.
Titles are irrelevant. Wally beats her face in unless she’s completely immune to physical harm at which point he speed steals her.
Has Wally speed steal reality warpers?
@sirfizzwhizz: yes.
Plus how powerful someone is has nothing to do with their resistance to the speedsteal. Just like how physically strong the Hulk is had nothing to do with how easily Surfer drained the gamma radiation from him and made him revert to Banner.
Wally’s literally defeated more powerful concepts of death than Hela could dream of being. Not to mention battling time traveling super-speedsters, reality warpers, dimension jumpers, time stoppers, beings who’ve ragdolled superman and the Justice League etc,
I’d be far more curious to know who she’s defeated with wallys speed + punching power and the ability to become intangible...
The only fears of Helas that matter in this thread are defensive. As in, what could she do to get a stalemate... because Wallys not going to be tripping over his feat to talk to her. He’s not going to slow down, or pull punches, or let her move. Not whole bloodlusted.
All I see is Hela being powerful in Hel. She’s a beast but I don’t believe she’s higher than skyfather. She was KO’d by Odin and it was a physical attack. She’s got some great statements but Thanos level feats. No where near Odin.
All I see is Hela being powerful in Hel. She’s a beast but I don’t believe she’s higher than skyfather. She was KO’d by Odin and it was a physical attack. She’s got some great statements but Thanos level feats. No where near Odin.
A lot of these scans she's not in Hel. She can age or simply kill people with a look or gesture. I'd agree the Flash could win a fight with her but this is a fight to the death. I'm not sure she can lose that.
@bones309: some looks to be in Hel and the ones she talks about time and space seem to have context and definitely appear to be Hel. But I agree, I don’t think Wally stomps and I don’t think she’s a pushover but I believe he’s fought characters similar to her and given his versatility he should be able to deal with her the same way he dealt with Black flash. I’m not sure she has the defensive feats to withstand a physical onslaught, or the ability to tag/harm a bloodlusted Wally West.
All I see is Hela being powerful in Hel. She’s a beast but I don’t believe she’s higher than skyfather. She was KO’d by Odin and it was a physical attack. She’s got some great statements but Thanos level feats. No where near Odin.
there's been no indication that she becomes weaker on Earth
Also not seeing how Wally is even supposed to hurt someone of her caliber. She brushes off attacks from Thor like nothing. Astral Form ftw
@bones309: some looks to be in Hel and the ones she talks about time and space seem to have context and definitely appear to be Hel. But I agree, I don’t think Wally stomps and I don’t think she’s a pushover but I believe he’s fought characters similar to her and given his versatility he should be able to deal with her the same way he dealt with Black flash. I’m not sure she has the defensive feats to withstand a physical onslaught, or the ability to tag/harm a bloodlusted Wally West.
The time and space scans are not in Hel. One is on Earth some place, in a fuller scan you can see buildings. The other with Thor I have no clue where they are but it's definitely not Hel since Thor was trying to get away from Hela who was on Earth at the time. Thor used his hammer to travel away from her. I'd doubt he'd go to her realm to do that.
@trust_this_786: Wallys not Thor and he’s taken characters of her caliber on and done just fine in the past. She’s been 1-shotted by Odin before. I’m not saying Wally is anywhere as powerful as Odin, but she was physically killed by a physical attack and Wally can dish them out as succinctly and frequently as he chooses; and that’s only 1 of the ways he has to deal with her.
@trust_this_786: Wallys not Thor and he’s taken characters of her caliber on and done just fine in the past. She’s been 1-shotted by Odin before. I’m not saying Wally is anywhere as powerful as Odin, but she was physically killed by a physical attack and Wally can dish them out as succinctly and frequently as he chooses; and that’s only 1 of the ways he has to deal with her.
Pretty sure it was an energy blast but I don't have the scan so I'm not going to argue that.
Although if Wally does go for the physical attack which he most definitely will this happens to him
@darkmundus: I’ll have to get to the asgardian hyperboles tomorrow but killemall has the scan in his gallery of her being 1-shotted. I’m about to have thanksgiving dinner.
@bones309 said:
All I see is Hela being powerful in Hel. She’s a beast but I don’t believe she’s higher than skyfather. She was KO’d by Odin and it was a physical attack. She’s got some great statements but Thanos level feats. No where near Odin.
A lot of these scans she's not in Hel. She can age or simply kill people with a look or gesture. I'd agree the Flash could win a fight with her but this is a fight to the death. I'm not sure she can lose that.
She cannot die in the normal sense, but Hela can indeed cease to be. Already happened once.
Whatever Wally has the means to accomplish that is another debate.
That was my only debate though. I don't know that he has the power to kill her.
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