Avengers Hawkeye & Arrow Oliver Queen . Fight takes place New York City at night on roof top . They start 200ft apart . Oliver Queen is Hawkeyes mission he knows all about him . Standard gear from movie & series . Fight ends with KO or death . Who wins ? I looked on here for this battle but all I found was a shootout battle between them . Also each gets two lifelines . Clint has Black Widow & Nick Fury , Arrow has Canary & Diggle . Please state why you think who wins .
Hawkeye Vs The Arrow
@epicghost: you don't think Clint had better accuracy & better equipment ? & canary & widow sound like a good match up but what about diggle & fury ?
@humanrocket: my favorite is Oliver but I think Clint can take him
@comicdude360: why ?
@awesomedude: you don't think Clint had the better equipment ? He had more special arrows & could switch which arrow head went on which arrow . Oliver only carried about 24 or arrows each mission . & doesn't Clint have the better life lines ? & didn't Clint have better accuracy ? Clint really only had one H2H scene with BW except the few chitari he fought .
@uugieboogie: He has better gear. His accuracy isn't THAT good. Ollie can match him. So? 2 arrows are enough to take down clint. Widow is < compared to Canary IMO, Fury also has lesser feats compared to Diggle. Ollie is better at H2H easily.
@awesomedude: you can't be serious . I like arrow & I like Oliver better but Clint's accuracy was ALOT better . Clint missed nothing & shot his arrows a lot further without missing . Ollie had trouble hitting other archers how can you be sure he can hit Clint with just two ? & widow & canary would be a good I personally think widow has better feats tho . & Nick had good accuracy with his pistol he was hitting targets with no problem . & diggle got beat up a lot in the series . The argument can be said that Ollie had better H2H cause Clint didn't really fight but Clint clearly showed to have better accuracy & better arrows . So if it stays to a distance I can see Clint taking it . His arrows are a lot better than Ollie's & didn't Ollie only carry like 24 arrows at a time ?
@uugieboogie: You realize Clint can't even hit Black Widow with his arrows? Ollie had trouble hitting really skilled archers, most of them are better at dodging compared to Hawkeye. Most of Widow's feats are taking down fodder, Canary actually took down skilled LoA members. Diggle is a pretty good shot too, Nick Fury showed no H2H feats. Clint's arrows have been dodged, Ollie can dodge them and fire back his arrows.
Clint stealth shoots him down or loses to Ollie in a direct fight.
Clint wins at range. He just doesn't have the feats to win in h2h.
@awesomedude: only time he missed was firing at BW & he is just as skilled as him she's not going to be easy to hit & they wouldn't let him hit BW that wouldn't be good for the movie & Ollie missed ALOT in the series not just against archers & he lost quite a few fights as well . & you can't compare clints dogfight capability cause nobody shot anything at him to dodge . & canary took out street level thugs & LOA but widow took out highly trained French pirates & aliens . Far away Clint has it based on feats , close quarters I'll give it to Ollie .
@uugieboogie: Ollie missed, but not that much, he still can hit targets and his accuracy isn't bad either. LOA members are >>> Anything Widow took on.
@uugieboogie: hawkeye didn't get enough screen time in avengers for me to see his overall skill. Since Oliver has his own series it's easier for me to see his skill level.
@awesomedude: the LOA members are nothing compared to the chitari . & he did really miss a lot in the series . Clint accuracy was shown to be a lot better than Ollie's . Clint was clearing a lot further distances & was hitting targets without looking . & his arrows were a lot better than Ollie's .
@uugieboogie: The Chitauri are fodders aswell.
@awesomedude: please do elaborate
@uugieboogie: They haven't showed anything except blasting some laser guns and being beaten by the Avengers.
@awesomedude: all LOA showed was getting beat by a homicidal maniac in green leather
@uugieboogie: But they pit up more of a fight compared to the chitauri.
Pick your favorite.
as far as i see it, this is for ever hawkeye vs green arrow thread out there
@awesomedude: the chitari had hulk overwhelmed at one point tho & Iron Man . Iron Man was beat up bad , eye had to flee , BW was bloody , cap was shot & hurting . The chitari did rather good
@uugieboogie: Yet they still got one-shotted by Arrows, Cap's shield, Guns, etc. The only reason they managed to harm the Avengers is due to Numbers.
@rbt: I tried to make it even cause H2H Ollie takes Clint hands . But Clint showed way better accuracy . & Clint never had anything to dodge but he was hitting his targets without even looking with a further distance than Ollie . & Ollie has been hit multiple times with projectiles . Dark archer almost killed him .
@uugieboogie: Clint has better accuracy, agreed. Though the gap is not as big as people say. Oliver has shown some great accuracy too. But Clint's accuracy is not going to help him. Oliver has dodged arrows. Merlyn had to shoot him from back to tag Oliver. Oliver has dodged arrows way more times that he's been hit. Infact, only Merlyn has been able to hit him. Everytime from behind. Clint is not winning this.
Canary can easily take Widow. Fury is featless and Diggle has actually shown a good h2h skill.
Clint. Better gear and accuracy. If it goes to h2h it maybe different but with Clint's accuracy it should never come to that.
@rbt: you saw what happened when Loki caught his arrow right ? You saw what happened to the chitari that was around the one that he shot with the arrow right ? It hit one & bullets came out of the arrow & hit 3 around it . All I'm saying is with Clint amazing accuracy & his equipment he can take Ollie from a distance , he may be able to with no problem . I don't see black canary taking out BW with no problem . Canary got her sonic device & her staff but widow had her widow stings & her pistols . They showed good H2H feats . Only feat Fury has was accuracy with his pistol think he can't hit diggle ? He seemed about of a foddler
@uugieboogie: Oliver pulled the exact same trick on Merlyn Ckint did on Loki. Oliver won't fall for that. And Oliver has never caught any arrow. He just lets it pass. An explosive arrow would do nothing if it explodes 40 meters behind Oliver.
Canary has way better h2h skills comoared to Natasha. She has aim dodged. She won't even need her canary cry to own Natasha.
Nope. Diggle has shown pretty impressive skill. He was fighting with Ravager and has fought Oliver for some time (though Oliver ia clearly more skilled.) He even took down armed men dressed as Arrow. Just because Fury has a gun doesn't mean he'll be able to hit Diggle. He's gone against multiple armed men and came out unscathed.
Team Arrow ftw!
@rbt: your giving diggle far too much credit lol .
What makes you think she wayy better H2H compared to BW ? Did you not see IM2 , Avengers & Cap America 2 ? She's fought thugs , hit men , aliens , highly trained military , pirates who were in the French military . She does almost everything with just her hands , how did canary show better H2H please elaborate . At best I'd say they were pretty much even .
& you can't assume it wouldn't work on him , he has no knowledge of Clint what so ever . Also if Clint shoots an arrow at him & he dodges it , why would he shoot an explosive arrow at him if he knows he dodges it ? He could just shoot it near him & his blast were powerful enough to disorientated Loki .
& he took down street level thugs that not impressive at all . Ravanger made him look like bad & he's gotten beat up A lot in the series . & he's never showed capabilities of him dodging bullets ever . I've seen him suck behind cover but never dodging . So if Nick fired a shot off at him he'd more than likely hit him .
@uugieboogie: Widow has fought bodyguards, aliens who were worse than an average human. Anything that was thrown their way connected. Heck Clint was able to stab one with an arrow with his hand.
Canary has fought evenly with League of Assassin members. All of them has shown great reflxes (dodging arrows). You just have to watch any of her fight to know that she's better than Natasha. Sara stomped Helena. And Helena has taken out room full of thug. Armed thugs.
Oliver is far from stupid. He's an archer who carries explosive arrows. Its natural to suspect that the archer standing in front of him might have explosive arrows as well. Clint knew about Loki too. He still tried to aim Loki in his face. That's how it'll happen. Oliver has shown great speed. He outran an explosion. He even had to stop to blow up the door and still got out of explosion range. He won't get caught into Clint's explosion. And what makes you think that Oliver would be standing there jusy dodging. He has a bow and arrows too. He shoots one arrow at Clint and game over for Clint. Clint won't be able to dodge it. Or Oliver just closes the gap and beats crap out of Clint old fashioned way. Either ways Oliver wins.
Actually Diggle was matching Ravager in skills. However he was outclassed in strength which helped Isobel get the upper hand.
He doesn't need to dodge bullets. You keep assuming that only MCU team will attach while Arrow team will try to defend themselves. Why? What makes you think that Diggle won't shoot Fury just as they arrive? Or engage him in h2h. Fury would get destroyed if he tries to go against Diggle in a h2h combat.
@rbt: We don't actually see how "Highly Skilled" they are. Dodging arrows dont make them that highly skilled especially in a tv show stand point cause BW was dodging Clint's arrows at point blank range. Also she took out mobsters in the beginning of avengers, took out a whole team of bodyguards in IM2, In CA The Winter Soldier she took out ex military turned pirates with no problem.
Those aliens were far above normal humans, you can see one clearly knock Clint off his feet.
How can Ollie dodge an explosion thats right at he's feet, your giving him too much credit. & Ollie's track record with accuracy isn't the same as Clint's especially when it comes to distance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnmvINW6gns ollie did nothing close to this & this wasn't a target standing still. Ollie 8/10 times is shooting street thugs & common criminals. If its a distance thing Its in Clints favor he was shooting further with better accuracy. If it gets close I give it to Ollie hands down. But i dont see canary taking out BW & no Diggle was completely outclassed. & distance i can still see it being Nick taking out diggle. If the gap gets closed than yes i see it being in ollies favor but i still see canary getting taken out she had no ranged weapon really. Ollie wins only about 5.5/10
@uugieboogie: so did you make this with a clear winner in mind?
@uugieboogie: Umm..we do. We see them fight. We see how skilled they are. Al Owal, Nysaa all were very skilled. Just watch their fights and compare it with Natasha' s fight with Clint.
Natasha never dodged arrow. She aim dodged. There's a big difference. Oliver has aim dodged bulleta but he can't actually dodge bullets. Natasha got out if the way before Clint fired. That's aim dodging. Not even close to actual dodging.
Do you want me to count everything Sara has done? She has taken out many featless thugs too. Just like Widow. She also has taken on highly skilled and fast opponents who outclasses Widow in pretty much anything. Widow is not winning against Sara. As for Sara having nothing to do from distance, she has her staff which she can throw with pretty good accuracy. Widow can spam bullets which won't do anything seeing that Sara has aim dodged bullets.
Nivk has absolutely no chance against Diggle. Diggle has a gun too you know? Oliver takes 8-9/10.
Ollie, much better fighter, at least on par with Hawkeye with accuracy (really, he might be just as good, people tend to fap that not looking while shooting feat Clint did in Avengers). And Ollie seems to be in better physical shape.
As for the Team battle. Widow makes out with Canary and Diggle goes out for drinks with Fury and talk about how silly their white friends are.
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