The Hashi wank? The Sauce downplay? IDK but Sasuke still stomps.
Hashirama vs Sasuke Uchiha
Sasuke stomps because Six Paths hax
He lost 6paths power after the war.
Harshirama takes this. Sasuke has 1 arm and is weaker. Harshy just has to watch out for rinnengen switch and he should win.
isn't it that in the manga, when a senju battles an uchiha, the uchiha will always lose because of asura and indra?
no thats not how it works and if it did then Sasuke would have lost every single encounter he had with Naruto if that was the case
Hashi stomps to equalized.
Wrong
I think Hashirama underestimating here heavily. Specially when people says "Even with speed equalization Sasuke still stomps" First of all Sasuke could win but cant stomp.
Hashirama saw BSM Naruto and he said "he has almost same amount of chakra as mine" "ALMOST!" Thats %50 Kyuubi Jinc + Senjutsu Naruto ..
And people love to see Sasuke's development as paralel with Naruto's but thats untrue. When Sasuke came to the battle in War Arc Naruto was in BSM mode and Sasuke was in EMS Mode and Naruto was waay waaay stronger than him. Sasuke wasnt even able to cast Perfect Susano before Rikudo's touch. He was inferior to EMS Madara heavily. But Naruto was fighting for 2-3 days w/o rest and sharing his power with ten thousands of people in the same time.
IF Rikudo's touch and being incarnation of his sones means -> 10x Amplifying Strength
Well BSM Naruto -> had 75 points and Sasuke had 25 points (ı used 1/3 ratio cuz Naruto was equal to EMS Sasuke even in his KCM1 form but he developt 2 other form more so thats why 1 BSM Naruto -> Kinda means 2-3 EMS Sasuke thats why ı used 1/3 ratio) -> So RSM Naruto -> 750 points and Sasuke got 250 points Thats why Sasuke needed the combine chakra of each 9 bijuu to face off against Naruto who were fighting for 3 days w/o resting and the naruto who is holding back against Sasuke.
So Yes Naruto leaved Hashirama in his dust when he got Rikudo power up. Cuz he was already so close before that.
But Sasuke's scenario is totaly different. He was still needed the power of 9 Bijuu And we all know %50 of Kyuubi were good enough to beat down every other bijuu (bar Hachibi) w/o any diff.
Hashirama is a dude who beat a dude who can cast Perfect Susano and control %100 KYUUBI in the same time while he is holding back !!
So ı dont get it why Rinnegan Sasuke w/o 9 bijuu chakra become so paralel to Naruto and way stronger than EMS Madara and SM Hashirama. I mean he could be but why as much as Naruto ? Which is so untrue.
ıt is cuz of Kinshiki and Momoshiki fights ? That fight had 3 different version (movie, anime,manga) and each of it has differencies and we dont've a total %100 pure canon one of 'em.
And if it were canon. Same Kinshiki & Momoshiki held by 2 Kage while they we'rent allow to use ninjutsu ?! Which is bread & butter of a kage. They dominated by Kages in basic cqc. ANd in the end a genin gave their lessons. So Momoshiki and Kinshiki incidents are so inconsistent to consider or take seriously.
Thats why ı just look at Rinnegan Sasuke's full-canon manga feats and ı cant see anything that put him way above Hashirama that would be allow him to stomp on him.
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And about Juubito being superior than Hashirama.
1st Thats was Edo Hashirama who wasnt at his full power. This is even admitted by Madara
2nd That Hashirama wasnt able to cast his huge jutsus cuz that would kill his comrades so he was restricted.
3rd When Hashirama said that the team didnt know that juubito was weak against Senjutsu. And when team deciphered that Hashirama was bussy with Madara and keeping him at bay. And after all those years. Madara acheived to awake Rinnegan and access to Hashirama Cells and way stronger than his prime and still their score was 1-1 to against restricted Edo-Hashirama.
So if you're gonna look carefully ıf Hashiramna was around Juubito when his weakness discovered and he was able to spam Senpo: Shinshuusenju w/o any casualty he could busted Juubito cuz even one tinniest base Senpo: Rasengan was good enough to knock Juubito down from dozens of meters above and leave a mark on his back for a while before regen.
So 1000 Hand Shinshuusenju attack would definitely killed Juubito.
And Rinnegan Sasuke definitely not far stronger than Juubito w/o Bijuu Chakra boost.
So in the end. That all "Stomp messages" w/o any good reason are just about postulations.
No one is underestimating Hashirama its common sense Sasuke Destroys Hashirama Six Paths and up wins without to much trouble Sasuke Trained ALOT after Shippuden and GOT HUGE AMPS Training during the last and even more This dude has claimed power that makes him a threat to people like Kaguya hes on a much higher Godly Tier
Kaguya =< Adult Sasuke (no handicaps) EMS + Sharingan Rinnegan Eye + Perfect Full Body Indra Susanoo
Kaguya > Hashirama
Sasuke is the clear winner and Sasuke isnt stronger than Juubito? Yes the hell he is please correct your scales then come back to so People can continue the "Stomp" messages because it makes sense Adult Sasuke is Kaguya Level Naruto would be higher than Kaguya Level so Sasuke wins Im not going to get deep into why Sasuke destroys Juubito and Hashirama Its true you need to look back into the anime/manga because that statement you said isn't true Sasuke got huge buffs post shippuden and up He beating Hashirama whether you like it or not
Hashirama is out of his league
Wrong Sasuke Wins
@reaverlation: what evidence do you have to suggest Sasuke surpassed Madara? Kinshiki gave Sasuke trouble and he lost to Chojuro, Gaara and Kurotsuchi(three characters Madara or Hashirama would stomp).
Kinshiki only gave trouble to Sasuke because he was weakened from traveling dimensions with his Rinnegan and traveling dimensions takes a lot of chakra to where even Kaguya was getting taxed from it. Even then Sasuke was fighting Kinshiki evenly. And the Kage weren't giving Kinshiki trouble. Chojuru and Kurotsuchi only got the upper hand cause Sasuke helped them. Chojuru almost died all they did was stop him in his place with their jutsu and not harming him. Madara was able to fight Hashirama evenly while Madara only had the EMS. Madara surpassed that once he obtained the Rinnegan. Then he took it a step forward and absorbed the tailed beasts and obtained more power to where Guy needed the Eight Gates to overwhelm Madara. Then Madara absorbed the Ten Tails and gained even more power so by now, it went from Hashirama >= Madara to Madara >>>>> Hashirama. Sasuke (and Naruto since both are equal in strength) were keeping Madara on the defensive the whole time. And Sasuke is even more powerful as an Adult. Sasuke stomps
Sasuke and Naruto are not equal Naruto stronger than he is Slightly or probably by a whole lot but Yes Sasuke beats Hashirama
@reaverlation: what evidence do you have to suggest Sasuke surpassed Madara? Kinshiki gave Sasuke trouble and he lost to Chojuro, Gaara and Kurotsuchi(three characters Madara or Hashirama would stomp).
When the hell did he lose to Chojuro and Gaara and if he did he was seriously handicapped and restricted on top of that Sasuke was suppresed against Kinshiki all Sasuke used was Kenjutsu, Taijutsu and Movement Tracking (Normal Sharingan Rinnegan isnt even needed hell not even EMS or normal MS just 3rd Tomoe Sharingan) and Kurotsuchi? Yeah Sasuke was heavily handicapped
@robloxian5869: Lol to Adult Sasuke > Kaguya.
Cuz All Adult Sasuke feats come from the Boruto series. Which is the series that nerfed both Naruto and Sasuke soo damn hard. Their feats are laughable.
And if we're gonna talk about his strongest version (which is the one when he gets new powers and moon seal from Hagoromo) even then he wasn't at Kaguya level :D
Also, you just bring your thoughts. None of the things you said ain't point anything about my post.
@robloxian5869: Lol to Adult Sasuke > Kaguya.
Cuz All Adult Sasuke feats come from the Boruto series. Which is the series that nerfed both Naruto and Sasuke soo damn hard. Their feats are laughable.
And if we're gonna talk about his strongest version (which is the one when he gets new powers and moon seal from Hagoromo) even then he wasn't at Kaguya level :D
Also, you just bring your thoughts. None of the things you said ain't point anything about my post.
1. Naruto and Sasuke were never nerfed they literally got even stronger and trained even more after the war and if they are weaker why are they handicapped fighting gods like momoshiki with ease both handicapped to the point they couldnt use half there power
2. Yes they are Kaguya Level actually no there not their higher they displayed there power and logically it would be higher either
3. Not my thoughts if it's true They already shown they're way stronger than the last so my point is proven
Sasuke Destroys Hashirama
And Sasuke Destroys Kaguya
so GG.
How did this get to 6 pages...............
This just shows that some people are just legit stupid
Sasuke one shots Hashirama in base
Non-jobbing Sasuke wins without even using sharingan, one Ameno teleport/blitz + lightning blade = dead Hashi.
Sasuke wins if and only if its final valley Sasuke from the end of shippuden, otherwise its debatable.
No Sasuke doesn't one shot, Hashirama has wood clones and Madara states he is the only one to ever see through them. The only way Hashirama wins is if he doesn't get trapped in Sasuke's rinnegan genjutsu. Shinsu senju scales above Sasuke's susanoo by a fair margin (as I said, this is ignored if final valley sasuke is used). His healing jutsu is on par with Tsunade's and his sage art gate of the great gods was able to pin the juubi and could be problematic for Sasuke.
@cvon123: Yeah, Madara said that and I'm not to sure if he knew who Rinnegan Sasuke was at that point. Sasuke could easily see through it and one shot Hashirama just by scaling.
Hashirama has made every other shinobi look like fodder when he arrived at the scene, even in comparison to the other hokage he was far beyond them, sasuke would get stomped hard even with susanoo
@cvon123: Yeah, Madara said that and I'm not to sure if he knew who Rinnegan Sasuke was at that point. Sasuke could easily see through it and one shot Hashirama just by scaling.
You have no proof Sasuke can see through the wood clones by gaining a rinnegan as even rinnegan obito was surprised the Naruto he was fighting could have been a shadow clone. Sage art gate of the great gods could easily pin Sasuke if it could pin the juubi. Madara's majestic attire susanoo scales beyond Sasuke's perfect susanoo and Hashirama was able defeat it so his Shinsu senju scales above Sasuke's pefect susanoo.
@cvon123: LMAO WHAT??? You stuck in 2015 or something? Sasuke teleports behind and one shots Hashirama before this man can blink. The scaling that Six Paths characters have is insane compared to non Six Paths characters (barring 8 Gate Guy). Sasuke is relative to Naruto who is relative to Six Paths Madara limbo clones who are relative to Six Paths Madara himself. Six Paths Madara ANNIHLATES Hashirama as EMS Madara was already relative.
@cvon123: LMAO WHAT??? You stuck in 2015 or something? Sasuke teleports behind and one shots Hashirama before this man can blink. The scaling that Six Paths characters have is insane compared to non Six Paths characters (barring 8 Gate Guy). Sasuke is relative to Naruto who is relative to Six Paths Madara limbo clones who are relative to Six Paths Madara himself. Six Paths Madara ANNIHLATES Hashirama as EMS Madara was already relative.
Since when is Naruto relative to Madara? I can agree the limbo are relative to him but not Naruto. Sure Naruto has insane reaction time like dodging the sage art light fang but that doesn't mean anything to his movement speed. I can also agree Six paths Madara stomps Hashirama, but Sasuke is not Madara. As I said before, the shinsu senju scales above Sasuke's Perfect susanoo (not the one he used against Naruto after absorbing the bijuu chakra). If it comes down to Perfect Susanoo vs Shinsu Senju Hashirama wins.
Sasuke sneezes in Hashirama's general direction and Hashirama explodes. It was clearly stated and illustrated a million times that six paths characters are so absurdly stronger than any other characters that it's not even funny.
You either understand or you don't and that's that. Literally nothing to argue about. Do you guys need proof for 1+1=2? Lol
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