HASHIRAMA SENJU VS AKAINU SAKAZUKI

@hittheassasin: Don't bother. He thinks Itachi can solo bleachverse.

To be fair, it wasn't Hashirama who collapsed after 24 hours of fighting, he seemed perfectly capable of going on. Plus as long as he can keep absorbing nature chakra he should be able to keep going. He can also use wood clones in a similar fashion to Naruto to keep his stamina up

And remember, because Hashirama has wood style, he is automatically capable of Water Style as well. Akainu still has elemental weakness after all. He probably isn't as proficent with it as his brother, but still he could likely spam the more basic techniques at high power endlessly and use his big damage wood techniques to keep Akainu relatively dispersed.

Even if Akainu lands some kind of hit on Hashi, he can heal comparably to Tsunade even without Edo, so unless its fatal hit or very serious hit, damage won't stick too well.

His wood is also likely far too durable for Akainu to burn through without extreme difficulty. His basic bitch wood golem is far more durable than anything in One Piece in that regard, being able to catch Bjuu Bombs like rasengans and no-sell Kage level fire jutsu

@decaf_wizard: He doesn’t have a single water style feat so that won’t come into play here, it doesn’t matter if he can do it when just won’t do it, it’s not his style.

Hashirama stomps the verse.

Shinsuusenju >>> One Piece verse.

Because he OBVIOUSLY would at least try it when his enemy is made of lava and notably reforms after his every attack.........

Don't conveniently assume he will act like an idiot

@decaf_wizard: It’s not me assuming he’ll act like an idiot, it’s just using a attack he’s never done before and he wouldn’t even think to use water on a guy just because he’s made of lava and reforms, he doesn’t know about Logia weaknesses and Akainu would just passively vaporise any water sent his way if it isn’t a lake.

He’s more like to use Deep Forest Bloom before water style.

Pretty much any mid tier logia

The yonko through hype

Law i could name more but this should suffice

Saying he solos the verse is pure wank

When has Akainu passively vaporized that much water just by standing around again? INB4 you bring up the showing with Kuzan which was entirely off panel and we don't know the details of it, as well as something that is not at all relevant to how much water he could passively negate

Even if he has, its not that far fetched to assume that he could throw a lake at him given his absurd chakra levels. All he would have to do is pump a dumb amount of chakra into a basic technique, which is something that has been shown in Naruto before

And yes he has to have used water style before. The show goes through the whole process of learning Wood Style and you have to have a solid grasp on both Earth and Water Style to use it.

Wouldn't think to use water.......on a guy made of hot rocks............why are you assuming he is a complete idiot?

@thenewguysnm1: You are not mentally ok if you think that any mid tier Logia, Law and Big Mom can destroy Hashirama, bro XD

Hashirama is more versatile, better or simillar physical attiributes has regen even better than Tsunade... Dealing with both EMS Madara and Kyuubi in the same time while he was holding back.

Intangibility is a problem but Hashirama has haxes life Darkness Genjutsu, Deity Gates (which could seal Akainu), Sealing Jutsus, Constant Regen, Limitless Sennin Mode (so he can outlast even Akainu), ANd he has much impressive feats, portrayal and reputation.

He has no counter to room

When BM and the other yonko get more feats i believe they will surpass hashirama

He has no way of hurting a mid logia(i feel mid tiers are ace and up) he has no haki so the best he can hope for is a stalemate with his inferior physicals he simply loses

Also do not challenge me mental capacity you are a newby no your role and shut your mouth.

How is his Sm limitless and can i have some regen feats no scaling feats if he has none he gets a hole put throw him

Yes he can beat a mid tier logia and the idea you think he can't makes me cringe. Logia is just passable psudo intangibility. The only logia with something resembling true intangibility is Kizaru. Most if not all Logia have elemental weaknesses Hashirama can exploit, or he can just seal them away after splattering them like goo. The idea of somebody like Crocodile or Caribou beating Hashirama makes me laugh

Perhaps you should know your role newbie : /

@thenewguysnm1: "I believe" listen up, believer... you should really provide something before saying bullshits.

You know that he can disperse a Logia, right? What about Myojin Gates Fuinjutsu that sealed the Juubi? Ace beating Hashirama is utterly ridiculous. Also you acts like if Hashi will engage everyone in a H2H due to downplay reasons. XD

"BM destroys Hashi because i think she will become stronger". Well, Boruto and Kawaki will pulverize OP verse because i think they will become stronger than everyone there. Enjoyed it?

Sorry bro. I've a Reddit past, sweetheart.

Yea thats not going to get you any points here

@decaf_wizard:

‘When has Akainu passively vaporized that much water just by standing around again?’

What do you mean ‘that much water’ xD what examples are you using? See this is the problem when you want to debate using an ability a character doesn’t have any showings for. Anyway, Akainu passively melts steel when it’s near him, he should be able to turn a standard water jutsu to vapour.

‘INB4 you bring up the showing with Kuzan which was entirely off panel and we don't know the details of it, as well as something that is not at all relevant to how much water he could passively negate’

Kuzan isn’t needed for me here.

‘Even if he has, its not that far fetched to assume that he could throw a lake at him given his absurd chakra levels. All he would have to do is pump a dumb amount of chakra into a basic technique, which is something that has been shown in Naruto before’

Sure man, this is totally much more likely than him using DFB, why are you so intent on him performing a jutsu he’s never used before when he has a jutsu in his arsenal that will be effective here?

‘And yes he has to have used water style before. The show goes through the whole process of learning Wood Style and you have to have a solid grasp on both Earth and Water Style to use it.’

He’s...never once used water style in combat.

‘Wouldn't think to use water.......on a guy made of hot rocks............why are you assuming he is a complete idiot?’

Deep Forest Bloom you dumb ginger.

Akainu takes it due to logia intangibility, more so as akainu stats are all massively superior to hashirama be it stamina, Durability, strength.

the moment akainu gets close to hashirama is already game over.

I literally said ace and up so people like sabo,the admirals etc croc is not a mid tier lol

His sealing jutsu is not to impressive imo though some scans could change my mind

The characters are not going to jutst stand there

How can he turn them to goo when his attacks will go through them

Some logia do have elemental weakness but when you think that hashi has only demonstrated wood style that will not work

So long story short if he gets tagged by anyone with good blunt force,piercing or hax he dies if not he wins comfortably

The only reason akainu wins is because of logia intag restrict that and whilst i can still make a case for him i would struggle

I was refrencing something in the last past

Hashi stomps. People forget his wood can no sell Full Kurama's BB something Akainu can't even match in his dreams.

This if you want to test yourself you can always challenge me in a cav setting

>citing vsbattles as a valid source

Yea no, try again

Show me one scan where dispersion has worked its people like you that are spreading misinformation so again show me the scan or concede

I said that they could they are featless right now

By feats i think any of the admirals would beat hashi bar fujitora and the hax characters like law could also get it done the other top tiers who are featless will one day surpass him imo

@priestofsodom: I would just like to add that the reason he thinks Akainu can vaporize incoming water attacks is because he has a passive heat that is superior to natural magma as seen when he walks by and melts steel without doing anything. I’d also like to add 2 more things, firstly he said Law could defeat Madara because theoretically he “can” via the nature of his fruit now whether Madara would allow that is another story. Lastly, you brought up logia dispersion as a viable technique when in fact it isn’t until dispersion has been shown because up to this point we haven’t seen legitimate dispersion besides an iffy feat from Kizaru vs Admiral z in a debatably canonical film where Kizaru gets hit by an island busting blast that either he tanked or dodger because it shows him appearing far away as the blast goes off.

Akainu.. any admiral can beat hashirama he has no way of hurting them if they don't want him to

Sea water, that is not an element. lol
Normal water won't do jack shit to someone who can vaporize metal from a distance with his heat, he has no in-built weakness to it.

Hashi stomps with ease. Akianu has no feat to suggest he can damage the wood.

@thenewguysnm1:

He has perfect SM aint has any problems with gettin into the mode (such as Jiraiya or Naruto) and he aint has a maintainin problem (such as naruto, minato and jiraiya)... Not totaly limitless but it aint has a clear limit ... He has senju chakra, nature chakra and ashura's reincarnation chakra.. SO even w/o SM he can fight overdays non-stop.. With SM its even better..

And about healing.. Tsunade is the biggest and most famous medic ninja in naruto world.. ANd both She and Madara said "Tsunade's regen cant compare with Hashirama's" and Hashirama aint even need hand signs for regen so its constant..

Even dudes with Hashirama Celss (Obito, Yamato, Madara, Zetsus) has instant regenative feats...

And about put in a hole ...... Akainu need to pass thru mokubunshin armies, multiple mokuton dragons, mokuton golems, poisonus polen jungles, darkness genjutsu, city size forests that charges on him... And ı aint even mention his Shinshuusenju. Which is way bigger than Mountain Ranges.. And treated to the PS + %100 Kyuubi collabration like a street rat..

Plus Hashirama got better physical attiributes, far better portrayal and reputation in his universe.. Which universe has far much more powerfull top tiers than OP..

Plus he can heal a hole such as Tsunade did (She healed a massive wound on her chest which is caused by Susano Sword Stab + 3 Tomoe Yasaka Magatama from Madara in blank point..


Hashi stomps.. Sorry but he is..

@pierpat: Its any water that can cover above his knees... And Hashi dont even need that Akainu would be breathing poison and he's done.

sorry for my bad english and please answer my question

@luffyisking: Don't tag me troll.

@thenewguysnm1: What's up with you blowing Logia intangibility out of proportion?

Anyone short of Yonko commander tier (Ace's real tier btw) is getting stomped by Hashi. Law is getting stomped (the fact that you think he stands a chance is cringe). Big Mom via feats shown is getting stomped.

You're starting to slightly show a habit of lowballing Naruto characters

@thenewguysnm1: I don't want to turn this into Hashi vs Law so let's leave it at that. I see your point

So hashirama's wood is it harder or more durable than steel? If not akainu just stands there and hashirama trys throwing a thousand punches and they all get Vaped before coming into contact with him

It's way stronger than steel.

Wow someone's begging to be debunked...how so if I may ask? Feats pls...

@datruth1: It can tank TBB which is many times stronger than a Nuke.

Yes please debunk me.

Concession accepted?

@thenewguysnm1: Concession on what? If you mean the logia dispersion then I legit forgot to mention it lol. There's not enough proof on that and Logias have never shown to survive massive dispersion, though it's logical so my stance on that is shaky.

If you mean Hashi vs Law then I don't believe your evaluation at all but like I said. We shouldn't derail the thread

@kingzod: Fair enough

Would you be interested in a cav one day

@thenewguysnm1: With the right characters? Definitely

@kingzod: Who would you want to rep

@thenewguysnm1: I'd have to dwell on that. It would be my first CaV after all

Wow people are sleeping on Hashirama, he can just seal Akainu.

His wood is much stronger than normal wood. Hashirama has multi mountain levels of power.

@alextheboss: Heat resistance feats for his wood?

I don't know if it's in the manga but I'm 99% sure Akainu got blasted into a pulp and regened like nothing happened during Marineford in the anime.

@thenewguysnm1: Well if we assume tailed beast bombs produce no heat, then the only thing I can think of his Madara's fire style, which caught his own wood of fire, but did no real noticeable damage to it. I would assume the fire would eventually burn up the wood, but wood doesn't just instantly turn to ash when hit by fire, it slowly burns away. So Akainu's lava would almost definitely burn Hashirama's wood, but not fast enough to stop himself from being pummeled and sealed imo.

You can also see what lava does to trees in real life. When it flows by even thing trees they stay standing.