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#1  Edited By jashro44
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Morals are on

Harley has standard gear

punisher has dual pistols with unlimited bullets but must reload, a Kevlar vest, and a combat knife

pre and post 52 feats are allowed for Harley

random encounter

Win by any means

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Start 50 feat apart

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Who wins and why?

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#2  Edited By renamed040924

Punisher wins on principle.

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#3  Edited By Bane_of_sith

Punisher destroys Harley Quinn,,,because he is the punisher damn it,,,and he outclasses he in every way but agility but she isn't dodging bullets so yeah frank kills her

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#4  Edited By Joygirl

Harley. She's no stranger to dodging bullets, and while she'll take a few licks before she gets close chances are good she'll be able to tank them for long enough to squash Frank with her mallet or stuff a Jokerbomb up his ass. She's faster, stronger, and more agile than Punisher, as much as I love him, and she won't attack like a normal opponent. She'll confuse and distract with gadgets, maybe fire off her ricocheting cork gun before wading in with that mallet.

That is, if she doesn't just go for broke and use Joker Venom on him.

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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

This is actually tougher than I though. I wanna say Frank but a gunmaster doesn't fair well against an acrobat of Harley's magnitude. Pre New 52 Harley is strong as hell too. She threw the Joker like a javelin.

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#6  Edited By NyghtMare

Punisher. All he has to do is hold up a picture of Mistah J and she'll fall down and orgasm herself in a coma.

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#7  Edited By Joygirl

@Bane_of_sith said:

Punisher destroys Harley Quinn,,,because he is the punisher damn it,,,and he outclasses he in every way but agility

She's also stronger, more durable, and in the field of acrobatics, gymnastics, and psychology, more skilled. She's also better equipped -- "standard gear" allows her to pull out any number of powerful gadgets out of Hammerspace.

but she isn't dodging bullets

She can dodge bullets and does so whenever it pleases her.

so yeah frank kills her

No he doesn't, she crushes him with her hammer.

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#8  Edited By NyghtMare

@Joygirl: Did you read Batman #13? What Joker did to Harley made me go like this :(

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#9  Edited By Joygirl

@NyghtMare: Psychologically annoyed her while she was letting him? Yeah, it was a disgrace, but has no impact on this battle.

That's also Nu52 Harley, AKA Skanky Quinn, not the Harley in this fight.

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#10  Edited By NyghtMare

@Joygirl: Has plenty of impact. All Punisher needs is a red dome on his dome and Harley falls over crying because she's not beautiful.

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#11  Edited By Dextersinister

Harley gets massacred, she is an ex-gymnast turned full-time pyschiatrist turned full-time criminal. She has no skills or training let alone the equipment to even have a chance against an ex-marine turned full-time killer.

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#12  Edited By jashro44

@NyghtMare: @Joygirl: If you guys are talking about what I think you guys are Harley is fine.

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#13  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

That's gotta be an Artgem rendering of Harley, god he does great work.

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#14  Edited By Joygirl

@NyghtMare: This is a random encounter. Frank Castle hasn't read any Harley Quinn comics and isn't going to know how to push her buttons. That is, if that suggestion wasn't absolutely absurd, which it is.

@Dextersinister: Try reading some more HQ comics sometime, please.

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#15  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Dextersinister said:

 She has no skills

Yes, she does. Don't judge her by what she is but by what she's shown.
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#16  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Bane_of_sith said:
Punisher destroys Harley Quinn,,,because he is the punisher damn it,,,and he outclasses he in every way but agility but she isn't dodging bullets so yeah frank kills her
Actually he doesn't outclass her in any way accept for fighting skill.
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#17  Edited By Joygirl

@The Stegman said:

That's gotta be an Artgem rendering of Harley, god he does great work.

Yes it is, it was my profile pic for a while. It's absolutely glorious.

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#18  Edited By NyghtMare

@Joygirl: Harley Quinn is an absurd character. Absurd character's get absurd responses to their worth and/or prowess.

Punisher does this to her after putting one in her leg.

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#19  Edited By Dextersinister

@Vance Astro said:

@Bane_of_sith said:
Punisher destroys Harley Quinn,,,because he is the punisher damn it,,,and he outclasses he in every way but agility but she isn't dodging bullets so yeah frank kills her
Actually he doesn't outclass her in any way accept for fighting skill.

Equipment, strength, fighting skills, actual combat training, is a main character in a long running series so feats to back him, the only thing she's got that matters is agility and she will take a well aimed bullet to the torso. Harley was easily the least useful member of the new Suicide Squad run.

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#20  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@NyghtMare said:

@Joygirl: Harley Quinn is an absurd character. Absurd character's get absurd responses to their worth and/or prowess.

Harley>Your Favorite Character...
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#22  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Dextersinister said:

Equipment, strength, fighting skills, actual combat training, is a main character in a long running series so feats to back him, the only thing she's got that matters is agility and she will take a well aimed bullet to the torso. Harley was easily the least useful member of the new Suicide Squad run.

Equipment doesn't count, but she does have a defense for it. He's not stronger than her, she has better strength feats and fighting skill & training is the same thing. He actually doesn't have many "fighting skill" feats. She's physically superior to the Punisher. One of the best acrobats in comics and she hits harder than his durability can handle for an extended period of time. I don't see him beating Harley.
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#23  Edited By Strider1992

You know what? I'm going to go with Harley Quinn given what i've seen in New 52 thus far. So yeah.......come at me!!

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#24  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Strider92 said:

You know what? I'm going to go with Harley Quinn given what i've seen in New 52 thus far. So yeah.......come at me!!

I thought the OP said "pre-New 52".
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#25  Edited By Pokergeist

You know its sad because Frank is pretty tough in a H2H fight as well.

Punisher maybe out skilled by Bucky but he puts him in a kill shot regardless.

Punisher vs Bulls Eye.

Punisher vs BE Again.

BE is a match in H2H vs Dare Devil and Electra. 2 of the best fighters in MU. Punisher Beats him twice in H2H.

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Punisher Surprises Super Soulder Cap with Speed and Skill.

Wow Punisher with Handgun shot off Spider Man Web Shooters.

Spider Man Acrobats and Spider sense as well Spider Speed >>>>>>>>>> Harleys.

Punisher has taken on Super Strength and Agility Opponents before with Combat moves like Spidey and Moon Knight.

@Vance Astro: I don't see a reason to be torn. Punisher should have this.

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#26  Edited By NyghtMare

@Vance Astro: Says the kid with boobs as his avatar. Patches O'Hoolihan > You

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#27  Edited By Strider1992

@Vance Astro said:

@Strider92 said:

You know what? I'm going to go with Harley Quinn given what i've seen in New 52 thus far. So yeah.......come at me!!

I thought the OP said "pre-New 52".

It says both pre and post new 52 feats are allowed :)

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#28  Edited By Joygirl

@Vance Astro said:

@Strider92 said:

You know what? I'm going to go with Harley Quinn given what i've seen in New 52 thus far. So yeah.......come at me!!

I thought the OP said "pre-New 52".

He said you can use feats from both. Which means she's laid serious smackdowns on Batman, Joker, Catwoman, Two-Face, Killer Croc, tormented Martian Manhunter, turned the Female Furies against each other and evaded them, used Thorn as a chewtoy, etc. etc. etc.

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#29  Edited By NyghtMare

@Joygirl:

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#30  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@NyghtMare said:

@Vance Astro: Says the kid with boobs as his avatar. Patches O'Hoolihan > You

Boobs>>>>>>>>>Your post. 
 
@CadenceV2 said:

Punisher has taken on Super Strength and Agility Opponents before with Combat moves like Spidey and moon Knight.

@Vance Astro: I don't see a reason to be torn. Punisher should have this.

Harley is a better fighter than classic Spider-Man. He held his own with Daredevil h2h but Daredevil has also easily beaten an armed Punisher twice. Having a tough h2h fight with Bullseye isn't impressive.
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#31  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Strider92 said:

It says both pre and post new 52 feats are allowed :)

Sorry, I went to public school :P
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#32  Edited By XiiX

Harely Quinn.

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#33  Edited By Strider1992

@Vance Astro said:

@Strider92 said:

It says both pre and post new 52 feats are allowed :)

Sorry, I went to public school :P

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#34  Edited By Dextersinister

@Vance Astro: How does equipment not count? He clearly has better equipment, she's the joke character who carries a mallet to a gun fight. Fighting skills = h2h and combat training is training on how to handle yourself in dangerous situations, Harley has neither. Show me these strength and durability feats.

Punisher is a street leveler who regularly tangles with people above his weight class, Harley has had trouble with teenage boys funny given the advantage you would think she would have over them.

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#35  Edited By NyghtMare

@Vance Astro: Not like you would know.

@CadenceV2: Never get tired of seeing that Spidey scan, lol.

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#36  Edited By Pokergeist

@Vance Astro: Punisher held his own vs DD as well.

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Punisher has held his own a few times vs DD as well.

Seriously what feats does Harley in CC have that im not aware of? Has she beaten Batman or even Nightwing by herself?

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#37  Edited By CalebHara

Probably the Punisher, this is closer than i thought though.

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#38  Edited By Joygirl

@CadenceV2: I just stated a little ways up -- she's taken Batman, Catwoman, Joker, Two-Face, and Killer Croc, all in 1-on-1 combat, among other things. I'm hazy on the situation with Thorn but I'm pretty sure she thrashed Thorn as well. She outlasted and evaded the Female Furies who are Superman-level threats, has defeated multiple armed assailants at once without any heavy weaponry, battled and escaped Nightwing, Tim Drake, and Cass Cain, all at once on her own. She's tough.

Edit: She also stalemated Misfit, a metahuman who beat Gizmo 1-on-1.

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#39  Edited By NyghtMare

@CadenceV2: She gets punked by Misfit like so.

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#40  Edited By ghostrecon9200

Everyone whining about agility should slap themselves. Punisher is so good he had spider-man dead to rites (check Punisher: War Zone #1). Spider-man is the most agile character in both DC or Marvel that is what he is know for (and spider webbing). He could have killed him and stole one of his web shooters. That was a random encounter too. Punisher has a full history of fighting super power villains and super heroes alike. Harley Q. is super sexy and has many skills but she is not as good as Punisher. Sorry ladies and fan boys alike. Lets be realist here Punisher would just shot her to death no matter how much agility and mind games she plays. Plus that pic is incredible. I would have an unbelievable love making session with HQ, then turn around and shot her in the face. And I'm not a ex-marine turned mass murder with Batman like discipline and Deathstroke like tactical sense with no morals to hold him back.

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#41  Edited By Matezoide2

As much as i like Frank, gotta go with Harley.

@CalebHara said:

Probably the Punisher, this is closer than i thought though.

She is underrated, so thats not a surprise.

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#42  Edited By Dextersinister

@Joygirl: Any scans for these wins.The female furies are not Superman level threats and are known jobbers before the real villain appears.

@CalebHara said:

Probably the Punisher, this is closer than i thought though.

Not close at all, the only villain of any fame I ever recall her beating is 2 Face which is not impressive at all.

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#43  Edited By Joygirl

@Dextersinister: I don't have a scanner but they certainly occurred. Most of them in her solo... she took on the Furies in Our Worlds At War, almost killed Catwoman in Hush, rumbled with Misfit in Birds of Prey. I forget where she decidedly beat Batman, saw a scan of it once but didn't read it. She also beat Batman in her solo with some help from mooks.

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#44  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@NyghtMare said:

@Vance Astro: Not like you would know.

Not like you would know if I know. 
 
@Dextersinister said:

@Vance Astro: How does equipment not count? He clearly has better equipment, she's the joke character who carries a mallet to a gun fight. Fighting skills = h2h and combat training is training on how to handle yourself in dangerous situations

Usually nobody mentions "equipment" when they say one character outclasses another. People carrying weapons can be disarmed. Whatever he actually has over her can't be taken from him. The part about her being a joke character is still you judging her on what she is and not what you've seen from her, Deadpool is a joke character but I doubt many people would agree Punisher is a better fighter than him. Fighting Skill and Training are directly related. There's really no point of splitting them up because there are characters with that haven't been trained that well or for that long that can compete with the best.           
 
@Dextersinister said:

 Show me these strength and durability feats.

Give me a sec.
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#45  Edited By Pokergeist

@NyghtMare said:

@Vance Astro: Not like you would know.

@CadenceV2: Never get tired of seeing that Spidey scan, lol.

Im getting tire of posting it lol.

@Joygirl said:

@CadenceV2: I just stated a little ways up -- she's taken Batman, Catwoman, Joker, Two-Face, and Killer Croc, all in 1-on-1 combat, among other things. I'm hazy on the situation with Thorn but I'm pretty sure she thrashed Thorn as well. She outlasted and evaded the Female Furies who are Superman-level threats, has defeated multiple armed assailants at once without any heavy weaponry, battled and escaped Nightwing, Tim Drake, and Cass Cain, all at once on her own. She's tough.

She took on and beat Batman? Surely that must have been severely Plot driven fight? Any Scans?

I can actually believe the Batman Sidkick team.

What Puts Punisher ahead is this Guns and Marksmanship with them.

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Hes tag Burnout and Spidey with his Aim. All are superios Speed (and in Spidey case Dodging) to Bullets.

I just cant believe Harley could dodge Deathstroke like aiming.Add in infinite rounds! check mate.

@NyghtMare: There it is again just for you :)

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#46  Edited By Joygirl

@CadenceV2: has the scan I'm thinking of. Her win in her solo is a little sloppy and doesn't make for a good feat since she had help. It wasn't plot driven I don't believe, Bats was doing something or other and she flattened him with that hammer.

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#47  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@CadenceV2 said:

Im getting tire of posting it lol.

Well it's inconsistent anyway.
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#48  Edited By Joygirl

@Vance Astro said:

@CadenceV2 said:

Im getting tire of posting it lol.

Well it's inconsistent anyway.
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#49  Edited By Dextersinister

@Joygirl: Like I said the furies are jobbers, despite how strong they should be I don't recall them beating any named characters. There are no mooks here. Unfinished fights in a comic are a plot device that are used to save face and avoid losers and don't mean anything unless there is a winner or it has some impressive feats, the current run of the JL is full of them.

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#50  Edited By dondave

@Dextersinister: they beat big barda