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#1 Posted by CynicalWeeaboo (62 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Both in character

Round 2: Both bloodlusted

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Battle takes place in space, can then go anywhere from there.

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#2 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7069 posts) - - Show Bio

Been done, Hades stomps.

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#3 Posted by Jman88933 (1183 posts) - - Show Bio

*Sighs* It's like these constant repeats of Saint Seiya vs Dragon Ball threads are coming out of a moving conveyer belt.

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#4 Posted by JOVIOLMA (4348 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Hades Godstomp

R2: Hades stomp again and later kill all the Universe 11 team, Belmod and Marcarita as well.

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#5 Posted by JOVIOLMA (4348 posts) - - Show Bio

People need to understand, there is only a few characters in animes that can beat Hades, e.g-F.A.A Lord of Nightmares etc, DB characters are not one of them

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#6 Posted by CynicalWeeaboo (62 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma: Lord of nightmares might be a bit too far, considering he's like multiversal++. But SS is very high up when it comes to anime/manga (LNs and VNs excluded)

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#7 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. We've already had multiple threads where the general consensus seems to be that Gold and God Knights are too much for Jiren to handle.

Hades doesn't even bother fighting Jiren personally. He sends the twin Gods or one of his three generals to handle it.

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#8 Posted by JOVIOLMA (4348 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma: Lord of nightmares might be a bit too far, considering he's like multiversal++. But SS is very high up when it comes to anime/manga (LNs and VNs excluded)

Yes, that's why I said that she can beat Hades she is Multiversal +, Hades is at maximum Multiversal.

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#9 Posted by CynicalWeeaboo (62 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma: I don't think we're disagreeing lol. LON hard stomps hades yeah

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#10 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (2991 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh not one of these threads again.

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#11 Posted by NarutBleacFan (214 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades. Both rounds. Easily too.

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#12 Posted by Emanresu_20 (2131 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades Curbrolfabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz stomps

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#13 Posted by HitTheAssasin (7317 posts) - - Show Bio

Not this again.

Hades stomps.

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#14 Posted by ElderElijah190 (1744 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades stomps as much as i hate to say it.

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#15 Posted by ovy7 (1702 posts) - - Show Bio

Very surprised that no one said Jiren.

OT: Hades

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#16 Posted by Nerise (918 posts) - - Show Bio

Gee Idk, um....Jir-Hades

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#18 Posted by deactivated-5b466be4b5981 (3660 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Edited by TheDeathstar (3942 posts) - - Show Bio

Now I will delete that comment for dem eyes. If Hades truly is Multi-Universal he should win. I only see Zeno defeating him.

However, I can see Jiren beating some Gold Saints. He doesn't lack actual Combat Speed, DC or Strength.

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#20 Posted by WhatamIseeing (1245 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades looks at Jiren and he dies

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#21 Posted by mrx1122 (2919 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. We've already had multiple threads where the general consensus seems to be that Gold and God Knights are too much for Jiren to handle.

Hades doesn't even bother fighting Jiren personally. He sends the twin Gods or one of his three generals to handle it.

then make a rthread of jiren vs bronze or silver saints since gold and god cloth are too much for him...

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#22 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrx1122 said:
@thedarkpaladin said:

Mismatch. We've already had multiple threads where the general consensus seems to be that Gold and God Knights are too much for Jiren to handle.

Hades doesn't even bother fighting Jiren personally. He sends the twin Gods or one of his three generals to handle it.

then make a rthread of jiren vs bronze or silver saints since gold and god cloth are too much for him...

No, because that would also be a mismatch... Generally, Bronze and Silver Saints don't exceed mach 5, the only exception being the main characters who raise their Cosmo to the level of Gold Knights by awakening the 7th Sense and a couple of Silver Saints like Suikyo, who are also in the realm of the Gold Knights.

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#23 Posted by mrx1122 (2919 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrx1122 said:
@thedarkpaladin said:

Mismatch. We've already had multiple threads where the general consensus seems to be that Gold and God Knights are too much for Jiren to handle.

Hades doesn't even bother fighting Jiren personally. He sends the twin Gods or one of his three generals to handle it.

then make a rthread of jiren vs bronze or silver saints since gold and god cloth are too much for him...

No, because that would also be a mismatch... Generally, Bronze and Silver Saints don't exceed mach 5, the only exception being the main characters who raise their Cosmo to the level of Gold Knights by awakening the 7th Sense and a couple of Silver Saints like Suikyo, who are also in the realm of the Gold Knights.

then what is the point of having saint seiya vs dbz threads if this is all a mismatch???if it was really all a mismatch .people should just call the mods...

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#24 Posted by MasterSkywalker (3609 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. We've already had multiple threads where the general consensus seems to be that Gold and God Knights are too much for Jiren to handle.

Hades doesn't even bother fighting Jiren personally. He sends the twin Gods or one of his three generals to handle it.

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#25 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrx1122 said:
@thedarkpaladin said:
@mrx1122 said:
@thedarkpaladin said:

Mismatch. We've already had multiple threads where the general consensus seems to be that Gold and God Knights are too much for Jiren to handle.

Hades doesn't even bother fighting Jiren personally. He sends the twin Gods or one of his three generals to handle it.

then make a rthread of jiren vs bronze or silver saints since gold and god cloth are too much for him...

No, because that would also be a mismatch... Generally, Bronze and Silver Saints don't exceed mach 5, the only exception being the main characters who raise their Cosmo to the level of Gold Knights by awakening the 7th Sense and a couple of Silver Saints like Suikyo, who are also in the realm of the Gold Knights.

then what is the point of having saint seiya vs dbz threads if this is all a mismatch???if it was really all a mismatch .people should just call the mods...

There's hardly a point in these threads anymore - every possible match that could have been debated has already been made.

The power creep in the series makes it difficult to put them up against certain verses unless one of the two is heavily nerfed.

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#26 Edited by CaoCao (954 posts) - - Show Bio

@death2heretics said:

Been done, Hades stomps.

@cynicalweeaboo said:

@joviolma: I don't think we're disagreeing lol. LON hard stomps hades yeah

That´s not even a stomp. For that what Lord of Nightmares do with Hades, there isn´t any descritption for. It´s like infinite stomp x infinite xD

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#27 Posted by CynicalWeeaboo (62 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedeathstar: It's debatable seeings how most people think Hades hard stomps. Gold saints can move at least upwards of tredecillions of times FTL scaling off of Shura's feat.

@thedarkpaladin: Tbf silver saints are a good deal bit faster than mach 5 iirc. More along the lines of lightning speed.

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#28 Posted by Lord_Titan_ (2066 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades feats anyone please?

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#29 Edited by JOVIOLMA (4348 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_titan_ said:

Hades feats anyone please?

Created the Super Dimensional Space which consists of billions upon billions of galaxies, along with an endless realm known as Elysium (https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11125/111251022/6319429-capture35gw4grqe.jpg) and maintained these realms' existence through his own power

-Effortlessly blitzed 5 God Knights who have MFTL+ feats in much weaker forms, such as crossing the Super Dimensional Space in minutes (timeframe confirmed by the fact that the eclipse had not yet plunged the Earth into Darkness, which Hades said would take minutes before they traversed this distance). This extends to combat as well, since Seiya reacted to Thanatos' attacks that crossed the light-years of the Super Dimensional Space, The Elysium, the Hell and the Normal Universe in almost no time at all and is far superior in every way to Gold Knights. Managing to splinter multiple God Cloths is a quite the impressive feat because the inferior Gold Cloths are capable of surviving an attack with the power of the Big Bangwithout sustaining any damage at all as we see when Virgo Shaka took one at point blank range, yet we find out later that his Cloth still in tact. Further evidence is for this is Shura's statement of the Gold Cloths having never been destroyed once prior to Hades' vassal Thanatos one-shotting them

-Can take a combined attack from 5 God Knights and remain standing, which also means he has some immunity to atomic destruction.

-Aligned all of the planets in our solar system with his TK (this feat was accomplished very casually from another realm)

-Remains alive as an abstract being and can possess a body of his choosing, as he did to Andromeda Shun

-Able to manipulate life and death to some extent--caused everything in his domain, except Pandora, to die as a mere child, including people, animals and plants and resurrected multiple Gold Knights for a 24 hour period to do his bidding

-Can teleport himself and other people/objects

-Can create an invisible sword of pure hatred that cannot be pulled out by ordinary means and will cause the target to slip into a comatose state and although Seiya did manage to recover from this, it was revealed in Episode G: Assasin that he was never the same afterwards:

-Is able to repel attacks from non-divine beings

-Has displayed void manipulation and existence erasure by sending Pegasus' soul to the World of Emptiness, which exists outside of the cycle of recreation

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#30 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedeathstar: It's debatable seeings how most people think Hades hard stomps. Gold saints can move at least upwards of tredecillions of times FTL scaling off of Shura's feat.

@thedarkpaladin: Tbf silver saints are a good deal bit faster than mach 5 iirc. More along the lines of lightning speed.

I'm pretty sure Aioria stated they typically move between mach 2-5. I could see it being a bit higher or the standard requirement to be a Silver Knight, seeing as how Seiya was exceeding mach 1 (the speed he mentioned for Bronze Knights) in the first couple of volumes:

https://imgur.com/a/dIYxJ

So while I could see some of them exceeding that speed if they raise their Cosmo enough, I don't recall them ever moving at lightning speed before.

Also, tredecillionsc is way too high for the Gold Knights, imo. Shura's feat is calculated to be between hundreds of quintillions (low estimate) to septillions depending on what figure you use for the initial expansion. Guth's numbers would make it around 3-4 septillion.

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#32 Edited by DrunkHC (750 posts) - - Show Bio

There are several silver saints that reach a much greater speed than Mach 5, Peacock Mayura was able to react to a Shura attack, Marin saw from the movements of the angel Tohma.

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#33 Edited by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jestersmiles: Darsh and a few others have good hax and versatility. I don't think they can deal with the likes of Hades, but some of the Gold Knights would have issues with them.

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#34 Posted by Lord_Titan_ (2066 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma: Lol well he wins easily, db characters don't have half those feats

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#35 Posted by Neodude15 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades Godstomps:

1) https://web.archive.org/web/20150419172921/http://www.narutoforums.com/showthread.php?t=978580

2) https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/62fmlv/respect_hades_saint_seiya/

3) https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Hades_(Saint_Seiya)

4) https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Matthew_Schroeder/Saint_Seiya:_Speed_Feats_Summarized

5) https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Matthew_Schroeder/Saint_Seiya:_Canon_%26_Non_Canon

6) https://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Matthew_Schroeder/Chapter_1_Seiya_is_capable_of_generating_24_-_28_Gigatons

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#36 Posted by JOVIOLMA (4348 posts) - - Show Bio

Lmao, Why bump this and throw a bunch of vs battles calcs and profiles ? This didn't need a bump it was a mismatch before it is a mismatch now, Hades cleaves Jiren in 2

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#37 Posted by Helloman (24995 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades wins both rounds.

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#38 Posted by Aqualion0 (325 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma said:

Lmao, Why bump this and throw a bunch of vs battles calcs and profiles ? This didn't need a bump it was a mismatch before it is a mismatch now, Hades cleaves Jiren in 2

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#39 Posted by deactivated-5c0b19c56d708 (624 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades would solo DBS lmao

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#40 Posted by CaoCao (954 posts) - - Show Bio

@joviolma said:

Lmao, Why bump this and throw a bunch of vs battles calcs and profiles ? This didn't need a bump it was a mismatch before it is a mismatch now, Hades cleaves Jiren in 2

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#41 Posted by El_directo_ (79 posts) - - Show Bio

Jiren wins. Come at me.

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#42 Edited by Batuxx28 (264 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades is only Universal +

only one user gives him more power than he has and the other users follow him like sheep without having read the manga.

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#43 Edited by JOVIOLMA (4348 posts) - - Show Bio

Hades stomps Jiren with utterly ease, stop bumping mismatches.

@juiceboks Better lock this.