Hades (Saint Seiya) vs GER

Both are bloodlusted

Win by K.O or Death, no prep

Takes place on a desert

Who wins?

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Hax of Giovanna not doing anything in Hades he has resistance to them all.

Hades humiliates the all characters of the jojo in all other respects.

I remember seeing this fight in vs wiki battle the times ago was closed because it was a stomp in favor of Hades

God! Dragon ball fans needs to stop putting hades in a fight. It's like they are obsessed with him. There are hundreds of knights of the Zodiac characters, you have the choice.

And why do you even set a Knight of the zodiac characters in a battle when you don't know anything about the universe. You didn't even watch the show.

This anime wasn't popular at all in comicvine 2 months ago, but when the first Dbs vs KoZ thread appeared, it became the new fashion amongst dbs fans.

Now that "Comic vs Dragon ball" is banned. Dragon ball fans have found a new enemy and it's the knights of the zodiac.

Don't know nothing about Giovanna, can someone tell his techniques, speed and powers ?

@joviolma: He has a powerful stand with pretty good feats that people wank to somehow mean he can beat characters more powerful than him like Alien X or Goku.

D4mn. Can you give me 2 examples of that ''wanking'' ? Because defeat Goku today I think is very difficult if you don't have speed or physical strength to hurt him, and Alien X ? Lol, what kind of hax he have to beat him ?

@joviolma: Search up Alien X vs GER.

So, they think he is fast as hell because he free himself from Za Warudo ?

Or Universal because this reason ?

@joviolma: pretty much

Giovanna only has hax, neither of them is defeating Hades.

Hades beats Giovanna everywhere by far

Oh god i wanna participate to the debate but i still didn't read Jojo season 5. I don't wanna be spoiled.

I'll just leave this durability feat, here, because i know that a certain salty community wil try to lowball hades:

I need to watch Jojo to check this, but I think free from time stopped is resistance against Time Manipulation, there is some indication saying that he use speed to do this ?

Time Manipulation: Golden Saints have a lot of feats resisting this and Hades has absorbed the Cronus dunamis.

Like I said, giovanni only has hax and none of them are working in Hades

@joviolma: Giorno is in part 5 which doesn't have an anime yet

time manipulation of Cronus is much higher than that of GER

:P, so I can't give opinion since I never read Jojo. But since the guys in vsbattle said that Hades would destroy GER, I think he don't have enough feats to beat Hades, but I can be wrong.

@joviolma: Even though it seems that Hades might have the ability to beat Giorno, don't listen to VS Battles, they very rarely have an idea of what they're talking about.

Yes I know, that's why I said that I can be wrong, they most of the times wank characters, like said that Steven Universe's characters are Relativistic, saying that Yato(Noragami) is Room level, etc.

@absol123: I can not stand it nor look at Hades's face. And a lot of threads that are stomps in favor of Hades, this is so unnecessary

@joviolma: or Star Wars or 40K characters being FTL speed, reactions or movement or solar system level durability durability or destructive capability

Battle wiki vs this time were right.

I realized that most of the forum does not know SS right, my sugestion is to make VS involving less powerful and complex and versatile characters than Hades, SS and a huge verse has very cool characteres to do vs.

PS: Hades blinks

What can this Hades guy do i have seen him in a lot of threads.

Hades presence will shut down and kill Giorno, and his GER is useless here, since he only attack the avatar, while 8th sense user can move with their souls free from the body and attack. Gosh, he could even possess Giorno with his soul.

Also this.

Hades god stomps.

@garobesthero1: He's literally the god of the underworld, no sold moving the solar system, and with his power, can hold up a universe. He is also faster than someone septillions faster than light. He does much more things. Hades is just ridiculous. He also has a strong resistance to hax and his presence alone is enough gold level saints who have the power to destroy a galaxy.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/saint-seiya-facts-vs-hypes-680878/?page=1

Hey check this out really worth it.

@haxcommander: That's insane!

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/saint-seiya-facts-vs-hypes-680878/?page=1

Giorno has no way to win here.

are you trying to lowball SS ?

@huko: The dude posted legit scans and feats. Saint seiya is really a high balled wanked verse

You probably should read the entire topic, then you know that this guy was debunked by all good Saint Seiya debaters in his own thread. Can you explain me where he posted legit scans and feats, when he don´t even know the context?

Hades stomps

GER tries to return Hades' ability to zero but Hades lolstomps.

Not exactly sure how. Not only many of those scans were mistranslated and out of context, SS characters far inferior to Hades have far better feats that put them above whatever that thread's maker made them look like.

hades nullifies giorno before he can do it

@caocao: Rather I see him debunking the shit out of everyone. You should check the last page

Can you give me some examples? Because on the last page i already read the first point that is wrong:

First of all 99% of scans you've posted aren't from original manga. They are from Episode G(most of them), Episode G Assasin, Next Dimension and Guidebook and several are from Lost Canvas(which is non canon by the way). Fella's that I called out accused me of posting false info, because I haven't stated that in my first post(6 years ago) some of my scans are from Episode G.

He ignores the feats from Episode G and Next Generation, which brought up most of the best feats and statements. He said they are not canon, in fact they are:

Interview and Statement from Masami_Kurumada, the creator of the Saint Seiya franchise.

If you don´t speak france, no problem:

Q: Saint Seiya Episode G arrived as a true surprise. Why are you starting Episode G now?

Kurumada: My answer shall be the same as the one George Lucas has given in regards to the production of his Stars Wars Episode I. A conductive environment to the materialization of what I already imagined has simply arrived. With the context of a film, this refers to digital imaginary and new technologies, for a manga it means the new circumstances of the environment.

You can also read all here with source and links what is part of the canon and what not: https://saintseiya.fandom.com/wiki/Saint_Seiya:_Canon_%26_Non_Canon

Since this guy ignored all feats from Episode G, Next Dimension (Which is a sequel) etc. his debunking are invalid. That is the same when i use Fairy Tail, but it isn´t allowed to post feats from 100 year quest or from Dragon Cry movie. Or when i use DB but can´t use DBZ and DBS. On the first page he used scans out of context (Which are debunked by 3-4 users, and those debate parts wasn´t even part of the debate on the last page anymore) That´s why i am said, read the whole debate. That is not even your fault, but every franchise has a lot of trouble with people who spreading those rumors. It´s up to you if you believe it or not. I can only give you the recommendation, that this debunk-topic isn´t good. The best thing is, you read Saint Seiya and make your own opinion, or you will have a lot of debates in future with other debaters here.

Also which kind of his debunks are valid here, when both debater at the end didn´t find a consensus in the translation and not in the feats? That has nothing to do with debunking, since we still have a lot of official translations and statements to back up a lot of feats. I mean this topic was even closed, no more words to lose at this point.

Not like Episode G is needed tbh. Next Dimension alrewdy gave us lots of good feats and statements

Odysseus making the orbits of all starts and galaxy shake violently.

Abel confirming this was affecting the entire universe.

Libra Dohko stating twice that "everything" or the "entire universe" is at risk of being destroyed.

@sagathelegend: Hey in which order should I read saint seiya?

Like this

1. Saint Seiya Classic (complete)
2. Saint Seiya Next Dimension (Sequel to the classic series, ongoing but its on hiatus right now)
3. After that you can read the spin offs in any order you want. Here is the order I recommend

• Saint Seiya Lost Canvas (Alternate non canon prequel to the main series. Complete)
• Episode G and Episode G Assassin (Both prequels to the main series. Both are complete)
• Saintia Sho (spin off that takes place parallel to the events of the classic series, ongoing).

>People putting Acausals against GER

Bruh moment

lol.