Guts vs Captain America

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#1  Edited By Geomancertactics
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Rules:

- Both are in character.

- Standard gear.

- Victory via death or KO

Battlefield:

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Round 1: Normal fight, standard equipment.

Round 2: Both unarmed.

Who wins?

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Guts guts him.

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Round 1 Guts, Round 2 Cap

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#4  Edited By StardustCrusader

Been done, Guts obliterates round 1; Cap can probably win round 2.

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This is a stomp.

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#6  Edited By daBlackswrd

Guts wrecks round one

Round 2 goes to cap unless guts has his metal arm

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@geomancertactics: Sorry I know this is an old thread

But I couldn’t help but notice that everyone forgot Guts sword is 400 pounds or 181 kg and he swings it a high speeds, while 616 Captain America weights 100kg

What’s to stop Guts using CA as his new sword hitting him repeatedly on the ground

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captain America stomps even without the shield

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Captain America takes both rounds with modest difficulty. Captain America completely outclasses Guts in physical stats and combat finesse, so this is going to end of being a very one-sided fight.

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Captain America takes both rounds with modest difficulty. Captain America completely outclasses Guts in physical stats and combat finesse, so this is going to end of being a very one-sided fight.

If Guts hits Cap with the DragonSlayer than it's over as the sword can kill his soul.

Guts is probably physically stronger than Cap he was able to wield the DragonSlayer massively oversized magical steel sword with ease

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on top of that there is his Berserker Armor a suit of highly durable body armor forged by dwarves

it overtakes its wearer's mind, suppressing their fear and perception of pain.This allows for the transcendence of subconscious

limitations placed on the human body, granting its wearer extraordinary gains in strength and endurance coupled with an inhuman tenacity for battle The armor also temporarily repairs debilitating injuries in the heat of battle: reinforcing broken bones and forcibly reallocating dislocated joints

But it is also double edged sword as can it induce raging insanity and when it repairs debilitating injuries it also simultaneously is piercing the flesh of its wearer with thin barbs and spikes in the process. Such invasive reparation can lead to its wearer's untimely death and if i remember right it also feeds on the user's blood but Guts been able to withstand the armor his endurance and sheer willpower, it's really not a one-sided fight

Round 1 Guts Wins

Round 2 Cap Wins

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@consciouskeeper: @nick_hero22: You guys got any feats for Captain America? I came into this thread under the assumption Guts would stomp but you’ve intrigued me.

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Captain America

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#13  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator

Guts should win but it's difficult to estimate his level due to the medieval setting. His combat speed seems superior to Steve's but he had trouble dodging a being capable of creating a sonic boom - considering Steve has 0 issues dodging bullets, who should be roughly on par with that, it raises an interesting question. However, reaction speed isn't necessarily combat speed and on that front Guts should be as fast or faster than most good street levelers except for really extreme cases like Spider-Man. That said, IIRC Guts was already worn out during that encounter so it's possible that simply wasn't his peak form. I've also read only up to Chapter 200+ so maybe he has more feats down the line - but I only judge from what I've seen so far.

Cap does have a perfect counter to Dragon Slayer with the shield but the slightest misstep could be his last.

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#14  Edited By Yassassin

After reading much more Captain America, I dont believe it's as much as a stomp I once did but I just dont see Steve winning this at all.

Edit: and no, Guts isnt winning unarmed

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Guts 1st, Cap unarmed.

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#17  Edited By maestromage

Guts should solidly take R1 but Steve probably wins R2.

EDIT: Wait a minute, is the berserker armour not standard for Guts? If that's the case then he stomps both rounds with ease lol.

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Cap for both.

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@kingcrimson: cap scales to black panther in H2H who can fight silver surfer and hulk who are both consistently faster than guts.

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Guts should solidly take R1 but Steve probably wins R2.

EDIT: Wait a minute, is the berserker armour not standard for Guts? If that's the case then he stomps both rounds with ease lol.

Don't for get the Dragonslayer it can kill Steve's soul if he's hit by it

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@gentlemantophat: There’s really no conclusive proof of that IMO. Him harming Slan isn’t enough to say it would kill a regular Joe through soul damage.

Chances are if Steve gets hit he’s dead through physical damage, but I don’t think there’s enough evidence to say if he gets a nick on the arm he’s brown bread.

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@gentlemantophat: There’s really no conclusive proof of that IMO. Him harming Slan isn’t enough to say it would kill a regular Joe through soul damage.

Chances are if Steve gets hit he’s dead through physical damage, but I don’t think there’s enough evidence to say if he gets a nick on the arm he’s brown bread.

This sword is not a normal steel sword anymore after bring used to kill so many demons their blood affected the Dragonslayer giving it magical powers the sword exist in the physical plane and astral plane at the same time so when guts attacks someone with it he's also attacking their soul.

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Guts for both rounds, the Berserker armor makes the difference.

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@kingcrimson: cap scales to black panther in H2H who can fight silver surfer and hulk who are both consistently faster than guts.

Black Panther cannot fight either in H2H..... I've seen one of scan of him holding Surfer and that's because Surfer let him do it to gain some intel.....

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@avatarofdeath: he has fought both multiple times and looking and one scan doesn't remove all the other times they have fought also iron fist, and Spider-Man also have fought cap so there are many ways to scale him higher than guts period.

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#26  Edited By AvatarOfDeath

@consciouskeeper; Yeah and he can't go H2H with either without getting wrecked. Hulk and Surfer are very very far up the food chain from Black Panther. Could I see some scans of him doing anything respectable by himself versus either? I like Black Panther but to suggest he can go H2H with Surfer or Hulk is a huge stretch in my opinion.

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#27  Edited By mbatz

I still don’t understand like I said when I first entered this chat CA weights 100kg and guys sword weights 180kg, guts has the durability to take what CA sells

People have been talking about CA scales to BP who fought hulk and silver surfer, but that’s in H2H not overall stats since BP has a completely vibranium suit

Plus guts fights people with absurdly higher stats than him ALL of the time like ZODD, GRUNBELD, WYALD and PEDOPHILE PRIEST WHOSE NAME ESCAPES ME

The fight ends unarmed when guts grabs CA by the leg and whacks on the ground until he is paraplegic

Edit: Armed fight is even more one sided guts has caught arrows, charkams, reacted to hyper sonic apostles he will catch CA shield and throw it away

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Guts takes round 1

Cap takes round 2

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Current Guts have speed feats reacting to lightning Guts wins

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Guts wrecks round one

Round 2 goes to cap unless guts has his metal arm

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@alphamon said:

Guts takes round 1

Cap takes round 2

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if we multiply Kirill's bench by how much weaker he is than Guts we get Guts' strength with just one arm, 42,123 pounds multiply by two for Guts full strength at 84,246 pounds or about 42 tons.

Guts wins both rounds. First is much easier though.

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Guts Stomps round 1

Guts wins round 2 mid difficulty

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@mbatz: i really like the idea of CA being used like a stick thats getting whacked on the ground. Kind of like the hulk treatment.

I vote Guts both rounds