Hmm...
I would say 40k...
Mainly because they have a bunch of really powerful ships,artillery, and troops.
But I'm not completely sure, so I'm gonna read up some more on Gundam.
Gundam Wing vs Warhammer 40K
"the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe."Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
"Vance Astro said:What I mean was it has characteristics that detach it from just being a machine.Iron Man has technopathy but he can't control Ultron..who happens to be a machine."the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe.""Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
"the human Juggernaut said:iron man isn't the god of machinery/technology now is he? the void dragon is even more powerful then the nightbringer..."Vance Astro said:What I mean was it has characteristics that detach it from just being a machine.Iron Man has technopathy but he can't control Ultron..who happens to be a machine.""the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe.""Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
"Vance Astro said:He doesn't have to be...God's can't stop Lord Ultron either."the human Juggernaut said:iron man isn't the god of machinery/technology now is he? the void dragon is even more powerful then the nightbringer...""Vance Astro said:What I mean was it has characteristics that detach it from just being a machine.Iron Man has technopathy but he can't control Ultron..who happens to be a machine.""the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe.""Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
"the human Juggernaut said:......hes not a god like say Thor is a god. The void dragon would be something like a well fed galactus when it comes to power."Vance Astro said:He doesn't have to be...God's can't stop Lord Ultron either.""the human Juggernaut said:iron man isn't the god of machinery/technology now is he? the void dragon is even more powerful then the nightbringer...""Vance Astro said:What I mean was it has characteristics that detach it from just being a machine.Iron Man has technopathy but he can't control Ultron..who happens to be a machine.""the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe.""Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
Ok. I think I have come up with an opinion.
Warhammer 40k wins, but it will not be easy. Maybe even a very slim victory.
Factors:
The Necrons, they can't really die and bring in powerhouses like monoliths and Nightbringers.
The forces of Chaos might be able to help destroy the Gundams, maybe even corrupt them and bring them to their side.
The Space Marines, might be able to do something with their Dreadnaughts, but other than that maybe not.
The Imperial Guard, if left alone and well protected by other races and by their troops, might be able to pummel the Gundams to death with their powerful artillery and tanks.
Eldar might be able to do something with their Avatars, Wraithlords, Fire Prisms, and Dark Reapers.
The Tau have some heavy firepower, they may be able to help take down Gundams.
The other races will only be effective in certain areas.
"Vance Astro said:Galactus...that's it?"the human Juggernaut said:......hes not a god like say Thor is a god. The void dragon would be something like galactus when it comes to power.""Vance Astro said:He doesn't have to be...God's can't stop Lord Ultron either.""the human Juggernaut said:iron man isn't the god of machinery/technology now is he? the void dragon is even more powerful then the nightbringer...""Vance Astro said:What I mean was it has characteristics that detach it from just being a machine.Iron Man has technopathy but he can't control Ultron..who happens to be a machine.""the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe.""Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
"the human Juggernaut said:i'll let you say that the gundams are more powerful then galactus now."Vance Astro said:Galactus...that's it? ""the human Juggernaut said:......hes not a god like say Thor is a god. The void dragon would be something like galactus when it comes to power.""Vance Astro said:He doesn't have to be...God's can't stop Lord Ultron either.""the human Juggernaut said:iron man isn't the god of machinery/technology now is he? the void dragon is even more powerful then the nightbringer...""Vance Astro said:What I mean was it has characteristics that detach it from just being a machine.Iron Man has technopathy but he can't control Ultron..who happens to be a machine.""the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe.""Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
"Ok. I think I have come up with an opinion.you didn't factor in navies, titans, and other heavy equipment... not to mention chaos daemons...
Warhammer 40k wins, but it will not be easy. Maybe even a very slim victory.
Factors:
The Necrons, they can't really die and bring in powerhouses like monoliths and Nightbringers.
The forces of Chaos might be able to help destroy the Gundams, maybe even corrupt them and bring them to their side.
The Space Marines, might be able to do something with their Dreadnaughts, but other than that maybe not.
The Imperial Guard, if left alone and well protected by other races and by their troops, might be able to pummel the Gundams to death with their powerful artillery and tanks.
Eldar might be able to do something with their Avatars, Wraithlords, Fire Prisms, and Dark Reapers.
The Tau have some heavy firepower, they may be able to help take down Gundams.
The other races will only be effective in certain areas."
"Vance Astro said:Shining Gundam is...Hell I think even Master Gundam is."the human Juggernaut said:i'll let you say that the gundams are more powerful then galactus now.""Vance Astro said:Galactus...that's it? ""the human Juggernaut said:......hes not a god like say Thor is a god. The void dragon would be something like galactus when it comes to power.""Vance Astro said:He doesn't have to be...God's can't stop Lord Ultron either.""the human Juggernaut said:iron man isn't the god of machinery/technology now is he? the void dragon is even more powerful then the nightbringer...""Vance Astro said:What I mean was it has characteristics that detach it from just being a machine.Iron Man has technopathy but he can't control Ultron..who happens to be a machine.""the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe.""Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
"the human Juggernaut said:then you didn't watch the same G-gundam I did apparently. That is utter lunacy."Vance Astro said:Shining Gundam is...Hell I think even Master Gundam is.""the human Juggernaut said:i'll let you say that the gundams are more powerful then galactus now.""Vance Astro said:Galactus...that's it? ""the human Juggernaut said:......hes not a god like say Thor is a god. The void dragon would be something like galactus when it comes to power.""Vance Astro said:He doesn't have to be...God's can't stop Lord Ultron either.""the human Juggernaut said:iron man isn't the god of machinery/technology now is he? the void dragon is even more powerful then the nightbringer...""Vance Astro said:What I mean was it has characteristics that detach it from just being a machine.Iron Man has technopathy but he can't control Ultron..who happens to be a machine.""the human Juggernaut said:it doesn't need to be normal. Many machines in warhammer aren't "normal" eithe.""Vance Astro said:It's obviously not a normal machine.""the human Juggernaut said:because its a machine....""Vance Astro said:How do you know it can control Shining Gundam? ""..........."yes, vance, the void dragon can control any machine, no matter what it is. And no, that gundam can't kill something that cannot be destroyed and is capable of annihilating star systems."
"Dark Patron said:Chaos Daemons goes under forces of Chaos."Ok. I think I have come up with an opinion.you didn't factor in navies, titans, and other heavy equipment... not to mention chaos daemons..."
Warhammer 40k wins, but it will not be easy. Maybe even a very slim victory.
Factors:
The Necrons, they can't really die and bring in powerhouses like monoliths and Nightbringers.
The forces of Chaos might be able to help destroy the Gundams, maybe even corrupt them and bring them to their side.
The Space Marines, might be able to do something with their Dreadnaughts, but other than that maybe not.
The Imperial Guard, if left alone and well protected by other races and by their troops, might be able to pummel the Gundams to death with their powerful artillery and tanks.
Eldar might be able to do something with their Avatars, Wraithlords, Fire Prisms, and Dark Reapers.
The Tau have some heavy firepower, they may be able to help take down Gundams.
The other races will only be effective in certain areas."
Navies and Titans kinda go under Imperial Guard
Galactus was almost killed by the Kree and stalmated by the Sentry and you think Shining Gundam Can't take him down...be real.Shining Gundam is...Hell I think even Master Gundam is."then you didn't watch the same G-gundam I did apparently. That is utter lunacy."
"the human Juggernaut said:first of all, this is just gundam wing. Secondly, did you read annihilation by any chance?Galactus was almost killed by the Kree and stalmated by the Sentry and you think Shining Gundam Can't take him down...be real."Shining Gundam is...Hell I think even Master Gundam is."then you didn't watch the same G-gundam I did apparently. That is utter lunacy."
"the human Juggernaut said:No, it's that you know nothing about the Necrons. Some Necrons Psychically control anything even partially machine."Vance Astro said:Some Gundams aren't entirely Machine and cannot be controlled by outside sources..Obviously you know nothing about Gundam.""Since he said this is every Gundam from every Gundam show.The Gundam's win in a CURBSTOMP."right, the gundams win even though the necrons control them.... Obviously you know nothing about warhammer."
But, the real issue is numbers . . .Even all the Gundams don't even come close to mathing the Billions upon Billions of 40K warriors, marchines, etc . . .
"Would it even have any effect on metals like Gundanium? This is supposedly the hardest and most lightest metal within Gundam wing? "A the end of Endless Waltz they need special explosives to destroy their Gundams..Gundam weapons obviously destroy other Gundams but we don't know what anyone in Warhammer has that will damage a Gundam.
"Would it even have any effect on metals like Gundanium? This is supposedly the hardest and most lightest metal within Gundam wing? "Would what have any effect?
"the human Juggernaut said:every side has titans, except the necrons i think. Even the orks have titans.."Dark Patron said:Chaos Daemons goes under forces of Chaos."Ok. I think I have come up with an opinion.you didn't factor in navies, titans, and other heavy equipment... not to mention chaos daemons..."
Warhammer 40k wins, but it will not be easy. Maybe even a very slim victory.
Factors:
The Necrons, they can't really die and bring in powerhouses like monoliths and Nightbringers.
The forces of Chaos might be able to help destroy the Gundams, maybe even corrupt them and bring them to their side.
The Space Marines, might be able to do something with their Dreadnaughts, but other than that maybe not.
The Imperial Guard, if left alone and well protected by other races and by their troops, might be able to pummel the Gundams to death with their powerful artillery and tanks.
Eldar might be able to do something with their Avatars, Wraithlords, Fire Prisms, and Dark Reapers.
The Tau have some heavy firepower, they may be able to help take down Gundams.
The other races will only be effective in certain areas."
Navies and Titans kinda go under Imperial Guard"
"Vance Astro said:No it's that you know nothing about gundam, f#ck Necrons."the human Juggernaut said:No, it's that you know nothing about the Necrons. Some Necrons Psychically control anything even partially machine."Vance Astro said:Some Gundams aren't entirely Machine and cannot be controlled by outside sources..Obviously you know nothing about Gundam.""Since he said this is every Gundam from every Gundam show.The Gundam's win in a CURBSTOMP."right, the gundams win even though the necrons control them.... Obviously you know nothing about warhammer."
But, the real issue is numbers . . .Even all the Gundams don't even come close to mathing the Billions upon Billions of 40K warriors, marchines, etc . . ."
"Vance Astro said:No it's not just Gundam Wing..read the first post."the human Juggernaut said:first of all, this is just gundam wing. Secondly, did you read annihilation by any chance?"Galactus was almost killed by the Kree and stalmated by the Sentry and you think Shining Gundam Can't take him down...be real."Shining Gundam is...Hell I think even Master Gundam is."then you didn't watch the same G-gundam I did apparently. That is utter lunacy."
"Tevnoba said:lol, excellent argument there."Vance Astro said:No it's that you know nothing about gundam, f#ck Necrons.""the human Juggernaut said:No, it's that you know nothing about the Necrons. Some Necrons Psychically control anything even partially machine."Vance Astro said:Some Gundams aren't entirely Machine and cannot be controlled by outside sources..Obviously you know nothing about Gundam.""Since he said this is every Gundam from every Gundam show.The Gundam's win in a CURBSTOMP."right, the gundams win even though the necrons control them.... Obviously you know nothing about warhammer."
But, the real issue is numbers . . .Even all the Gundams don't even come close to mathing the Billions upon Billions of 40K warriors, marchines, etc . . ."
"Vance Astro said:I know."Tevnoba said:lol, excellent argument there. ""Vance Astro said:No it's that you know nothing about gundam, f#ck Necrons.""the human Juggernaut said:No, it's that you know nothing about the Necrons. Some Necrons Psychically control anything even partially machine."Vance Astro said:Some Gundams aren't entirely Machine and cannot be controlled by outside sources..Obviously you know nothing about Gundam.""Since he said this is every Gundam from every Gundam show.The Gundam's win in a CURBSTOMP."right, the gundams win even though the necrons control them.... Obviously you know nothing about warhammer."
But, the real issue is numbers . . .Even all the Gundams don't even come close to mathing the Billions upon Billions of 40K warriors, marchines, etc . . ."
"the human Juggernaut said:"Vance Astro said:No it's not just Gundam Wing..read the first post.""the human Juggernaut said:first of all, this is just gundam wing. Secondly, did you read annihilation by any chance?"Galactus was almost killed by the Kree and stalmated by the Sentry and you think Shining Gundam Can't take him down...be real."Shining Gundam is...Hell I think even Master Gundam is."then you didn't watch the same G-gundam I did apparently. That is utter lunacy."
"Dark Patron said:oh yeah.... but usually Space Marines and Imperial Guard have the best ones."the human Juggernaut said:every side has titans, except the necrons i think. Even the orks have titans..""Dark Patron said:Chaos Daemons goes under forces of Chaos."Ok. I think I have come up with an opinion.you didn't factor in navies, titans, and other heavy equipment... not to mention chaos daemons..."
Warhammer 40k wins, but it will not be easy. Maybe even a very slim victory.
Factors:
The Necrons, they can't really die and bring in powerhouses like monoliths and Nightbringers.
The forces of Chaos might be able to help destroy the Gundams, maybe even corrupt them and bring them to their side.
The Space Marines, might be able to do something with their Dreadnaughts, but other than that maybe not.
The Imperial Guard, if left alone and well protected by other races and by their troops, might be able to pummel the Gundams to death with their powerful artillery and tanks.
Eldar might be able to do something with their Avatars, Wraithlords, Fire Prisms, and Dark Reapers.
The Tau have some heavy firepower, they may be able to help take down Gundams.
The other races will only be effective in certain areas."
Navies and Titans kinda go under Imperial Guard"
"Tevnoba said:lol what are billions of billions of warriors when the earth could send neculer topedos through space like the earth forces did to the seeds in space in Gundam wing destiny?"Vance Astro said:No it's that you know nothing about gundam, f#ck Necrons.""the human Juggernaut said:No, it's that you know nothing about the Necrons. Some Necrons Psychically control anything even partially machine."Vance Astro said:Some Gundams aren't entirely Machine and cannot be controlled by outside sources..Obviously you know nothing about Gundam.""Since he said this is every Gundam from every Gundam show.The Gundam's win in a CURBSTOMP."right, the gundams win even though the necrons control them.... Obviously you know nothing about warhammer."
But, the real issue is numbers . . .Even all the Gundams don't even come close to mathing the Billions upon Billions of 40K warriors, marchines, etc . . ."
"Vance Astro said:lol, and the necrons take control of the torpedoes and send them right back to their owners. Funny how that works."Tevnoba said:lol what are billions of billions of warriors when the earth could send neculer topedos through space like the earth forces did to the seeds in space in Gundam wing destiny? ""Vance Astro said:No it's that you know nothing about gundam, f#ck Necrons.""the human Juggernaut said:No, it's that you know nothing about the Necrons. Some Necrons Psychically control anything even partially machine."Vance Astro said:Some Gundams aren't entirely Machine and cannot be controlled by outside sources..Obviously you know nothing about Gundam.""Since he said this is every Gundam from every Gundam show.The Gundam's win in a CURBSTOMP."right, the gundams win even though the necrons control them.... Obviously you know nothing about warhammer."
But, the real issue is numbers . . .Even all the Gundams don't even come close to mathing the Billions upon Billions of 40K warriors, marchines, etc . . ."
"Vance Astro said:and this thing comes it (the actual god, not the little avatars that come up every now and then) it will annihilate all the gundams instantly."Vance Astro said:fine. The necrons would just take control of the ones that are machine, then they would summon the immortal nightbringer to annihilate the rest. The nightbringer is a god. It is "death incarnate, a sadistic god wielding the power to unmake the stars. It delights in inflicting great pain and suffering not necessarily to feed, but simply because it can. Its gaze is death and its mighty scythe has feasted on the deaths of entire civilisations. With a starship imbued with a measure of its power, the Nightbringer has destroyed entire star systems on a whim and gorged itself on the death agonies of countless billions of lives." I wish the gundam pilots luck. This entity alone can take all the gundams easily."the human Juggernaut said:""Vance Astro said:Some Gundams aren't entirely Machine and cannot be controlled by outside sources..Obviously you know nothing about Gundam.""Since he said this is every Gundam from every Gundam show.The Gundam's win in a CURBSTOMP."right, the gundams win even though the necrons control them.... Obviously you know nothing about warhammer."
"
Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will.That has ntohing to do with programming or circuitry.
"Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you.
"Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough."Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"the human Juggernaut said:the void dragon can control any machine. Whether it can move on its own or not."Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough.""Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"Vance Astro said:It's not about moving on it's own..Some Gundam's have proven to have human\animal characteristics that they weren't built with."the human Juggernaut said:the void dragon can control any machine. Whether it can move on its own or not.""Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough.""Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"the human Juggernaut said:that doesn't matter. They will still be taken over. Its not like he uses a computer virus or anything, he possesses the machine. Its some kind of presence."Vance Astro said:It's not about moving on it's own..Some Gundam's have proven to have human\animal characteristics that they weren't built with.""the human Juggernaut said:the void dragon can control any machine. Whether it can move on its own or not.""Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough.""Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"Vance Astro said:Ok..I'm going to use Ultron one more time..Ultron was built with Hank Pym's intellect and was a primitive machine...it somehow kept evolving,even though it was not built to do that and eventually became one of the most powerful most intellegent BEINGS in the Universe much like Shining Gundam..it's starts of as a machine then based on Domon's emotions it evolves and changes forms...How do you know that this doesn't make this Gundam beyond being controlled...I don't see how possessing the machine even if you are a presence will work when it is already possessed by Domon in it's final form...Domon is not even the pilot it's Final Form it's just doing whatever he's thinking."the human Juggernaut said:that doesn't matter. They will still be taken over. Its not like he uses a computer virus or anything, he possesses the machine. Its some kind of presence.""Vance Astro said:It's not about moving on it's own..Some Gundam's have proven to have human\animal characteristics that they weren't built with.""the human Juggernaut said:the void dragon can control any machine. Whether it can move on its own or not.""Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough.""Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"the human Juggernaut said:because it has power over every machine. There are machines in warhammer that are possessed by very powerful demons that it has controlled..."Vance Astro said:Ok..I'm going to use Ultron one more time..Ultron was built with Hank Pym's intellect and was a primitive machine...it somehow kept evolving,even though it was not built to do that and eventually became one of the most powerful BEINGS in the Universe much like Shining Gundam..it's starts of as a machine then based on Domon's emotions it evolves and changes forms...How do you know that this doesn't make this Gundam beyond being controlled...I don't see how possessing the machine even if you are a presence will work when it is already possessed by Domon in it's final form...Domon is not even the pilot it's Final Form it's just doing whatever he's thinking.""the human Juggernaut said:that doesn't matter. They will still be taken over. Its not like he uses a computer virus or anything, he possesses the machine. Its some kind of presence.""Vance Astro said:It's not about moving on it's own..Some Gundam's have proven to have human\animal characteristics that they weren't built with.""the human Juggernaut said:the void dragon can control any machine. Whether it can move on its own or not.""Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough.""Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"Vance Astro said:It's not about the possession..it's about the machine itself.The Machines possesed by demons in Warhammer are not Gundams."the human Juggernaut said:because it has power over every machine. There are machines in warhammer that are possessed by very powerful demons that it has controlled...""Vance Astro said:Ok..I'm going to use Ultron one more time..Ultron was built with Hank Pym's intellect and was a primitive machine...it somehow kept evolving,even though it was not built to do that and eventually became one of the most powerful BEINGS in the Universe much like Shining Gundam..it's starts of as a machine then based on Domon's emotions it evolves and changes forms...How do you know that this doesn't make this Gundam beyond being controlled...I don't see how possessing the machine even if you are a presence will work when it is already possessed by Domon in it's final form...Domon is not even the pilot it's Final Form it's just doing whatever he's thinking.""the human Juggernaut said:that doesn't matter. They will still be taken over. Its not like he uses a computer virus or anything, he possesses the machine. Its some kind of presence.""Vance Astro said:It's not about moving on it's own..Some Gundam's have proven to have human\animal characteristics that they weren't built with.""the human Juggernaut said:the void dragon can control any machine. Whether it can move on its own or not.""Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough.""Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"the human Juggernaut said:...they don't need to be gundams. You're just pulling at straws here. It would be taken over. Even if its not taken over, it would be overwhelmed as all other gundams would attack it."Vance Astro said:It's not about the possession..it's about the machine itself.The Machines possesed by demons in Warhammer are not Gundams.""the human Juggernaut said:because it has power over every machine. There are machines in warhammer that are possessed by very powerful demons that it has controlled...""Vance Astro said:Ok..I'm going to use Ultron one more time..Ultron was built with Hank Pym's intellect and was a primitive machine...it somehow kept evolving,even though it was not built to do that and eventually became one of the most powerful BEINGS in the Universe much like Shining Gundam..it's starts of as a machine then based on Domon's emotions it evolves and changes forms...How do you know that this doesn't make this Gundam beyond being controlled...I don't see how possessing the machine even if you are a presence will work when it is already possessed by Domon in it's final form...Domon is not even the pilot it's Final Form it's just doing whatever he's thinking.""the human Juggernaut said:that doesn't matter. They will still be taken over. Its not like he uses a computer virus or anything, he possesses the machine. Its some kind of presence.""Vance Astro said:It's not about moving on it's own..Some Gundam's have proven to have human\animal characteristics that they weren't built with.""the human Juggernaut said:the void dragon can control any machine. Whether it can move on its own or not.""Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough.""Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"Vance Astro said:I'm not pulling straws..your not listening...There is obviously something different about the creation of a Gundam than any other machine.I gave you an example of a machine that has been shown to resist technopathy and being infested by the Phalanx...a group of aliens that have taken over very powerful beings....so with the way a Gundam like Shining has been shown to do things that aren't within a machines characteristics..why is there not a chance that it could not be taken over by the Void Dragon.I'm pretty much trying to say that this Gundam at some point really isn't machine...."the human Juggernaut said:...they don't need to be gundams. You're just pulling at straws here. It would be taken over. Even if its not taken over, it would be overwhelmed as all other gundams would attack it.""Vance Astro said:It's not about the possession..it's about the machine itself.The Machines possesed by demons in Warhammer are not Gundams.""the human Juggernaut said:because it has power over every machine. There are machines in warhammer that are possessed by very powerful demons that it has controlled...""Vance Astro said:Ok..I'm going to use Ultron one more time..Ultron was built with Hank Pym's intellect and was a primitive machine...it somehow kept evolving,even though it was not built to do that and eventually became one of the most powerful BEINGS in the Universe much like Shining Gundam..it's starts of as a machine then based on Domon's emotions it evolves and changes forms...How do you know that this doesn't make this Gundam beyond being controlled...I don't see how possessing the machine even if you are a presence will work when it is already possessed by Domon in it's final form...Domon is not even the pilot it's Final Form it's just doing whatever he's thinking.""the human Juggernaut said:that doesn't matter. They will still be taken over. Its not like he uses a computer virus or anything, he possesses the machine. Its some kind of presence.""Vance Astro said:It's not about moving on it's own..Some Gundam's have proven to have human\animal characteristics that they weren't built with.""the human Juggernaut said:the void dragon can control any machine. Whether it can move on its own or not.""Vance Astro said:Your explanation wasn't good enough.""Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will."..... its already been explained to you."
"Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will.That has ntohing to do with programming or circuitry."You say maybe they can not be controlled and you keep wanting proof that they can be. Well, duh . . unfortunately we can only go with what each respective universe has because there has never been a crossover to prove it one way or the other.
Do you have any proof that under no circumstances can Gundams can not be controlled? I doubt it, because I seem to remember a time when that was a problem; although I will admit it has been a long time since I've watched any Gundam so my memory is rusty on them.
I just spent a lot of time reading everything I've been albe to find about the various Gundams: God, Shinning, Ultimate, and a lot more. My brain hurts now!
Anyway, with everything I've read there is nothing that leads me to beleive that Gundam has any chance what so ever.
Sheer numbers alone could win this. Warhammer 40K tech is way better than Gundam. Then you have Warhammer Psionics and Magic not to mention the Warhammer Gods. It is just not possible for Gundam to have a chance in this conflic.
Vance . . .give it up, Gundam looses. We given you many reasons why Gundam looses and you have yet to provide one actualy fact or logical oppinion that they would have a chance against the Warhammer 40K forces except to say 'Gundam wins!'
ohhh gundams would totally own. and the wing zero system is undefeatable.
the wing zero system can block magical errors.
"Vance Astro said:"Just because the Necrons can control every machine in there universe doesn't mean they can control Gundams.I used Ultron as and example earlier because he cannot be controlled..not even by the Phalanx.Maybe Gundams as well cannot be controlled.They are supposed to be Machine but I have seen several move under their own free will.That has ntohing to do with programming or circuitry."You say maybe they can not be controlled and you keep wanting proof that they can be. Well, duh . . unfortunately we can only go with what each respective universe has because there has never been a crossover to prove it one way or the other.
Do you have any proof that under no circumstances can Gundams can not be controlled? I doubt it, because I seem to remember a time when that was a problem; although I will admit it has been a long time since I've watched any Gundam so my memory is rusty on them."
Tevnoba said:
"I just spent a lot of time reading everything I've been albe to find about the various Gundams: God, Shinning, Ultimate, and a lot more. My brain hurts now!
Anyway, with everything I've read there is nothing that leads me to beleive that Gundam has any chance what so ever.
Sheer numbers alone could win this. Warhammer 40K tech is way better than Gundam. Then you have Warhammer Psionics and Magic not to mention the Warhammer Gods. It is just not possible for Gundam to have a chance in this conflic.
Vance . . .give it up, Gundam looses. We given you many reasons why Gundam looses and you have yet to provide one actualy fact or logical oppinion that they would have a chance against the Warhammer 40K forces except to say 'Gundam wins!'"
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